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Jerry O'Connell, The Bills End The Patriots, Week 13 Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest

Friday, December 2, 202217 takes

The Bills killed the Patriots on Thursday Night Football and apparently Chris Paul is fucking Kim Kardashian (-). We preview Week 13 with picks and talk about every game including Kyler Murray and Russ Wilson having everyone hate them (-). Fantasy Primals in honor of Liver King (-). Jerry O'Connell joins the show to recap our fantasy season, how the Jets are doing, a poem for Hank and more (-). We finish with fyre fest of the week (-).

Jerry O'Connell on Jets, Fantasy Strategy, and Week 13 NFL Picks

Thursday Night Football was a grim reminder for Hank that the glory days in New England are officially over. The Bills didn't just win; they toyed with the Patriots in a way that made it feel like Josh Allen was playing a different sport. While Hank tried to find a silver lining in the Patriots' top-10 defense, PFT was ready to eulogize the dynasty once and for all.

Win
Dec 2, 2022
#19162
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots are dead and face a multi-year decline

Patriots are dead. Yeah, it's, it's like madlibs. Like are they, are they dead this, this year or is this like a, this feels like it's a multi-year thing going on.

The Patriots finished 8-9 in 2022 and 4-13 in 2023, eventually parting ways with Belichick, confirming a multi-year decline.

Big Cat pointed out that the Patriots' offensive coaching staff—led by Matt Patricia and Joe Judge—is actively sabotaging Mac Jones. It’s reached the point where even PFT is looking for solutions that involve former New England staples returning to the sideline to save the offense.

Win
Dec 2, 2022
#19163
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill O'Brien will be a great fit for the Patriots as offensive coordinator next season

They're probably gonna get Bill O'Brien cuz he wants to come back to the NFL. He wants to leave Alabama. So I actually think that'd be, that'd be a great fit. Bring him back to New England.

Bill O'Brien was hired as the Patriots OC in January 2023.

On the other side of the ball, Josh Allen looked like he was playing Madden on rookie mode. Hank, usually the last to admit greatness in anyone wearing a different jersey, finally surrendered to the reality that Allen is in a league of his own right now.

Void
Dec 2, 2022
#19164
HankHank

Josh Allen is by far the best quarterback in the NFL

Tonight it was like watching, you know, the Patriots struggle and then Josh Allen's the best about Oh, your by far. He's like watching him is watching like the old Patriots where he makes every throw, he makes every play right. They look unstoppable.

Allen is consistently top-tier, but 'by far' is subjective and debatable against Patrick Mahomes.

Kyler Murray and the Baseball Problem

The conversation shifted to the dumpster fire in Arizona, where Patrick Peterson and Kyler Murray are trading shots on social media. Big Cat has a theory that Kyler’s lack of leadership stems from his roots on the diamond rather than the gridiron.

Void
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19165
Big CatBig Cat

Kyler Murray's biggest problem is that he is fundamentally a baseball player

Not to be Colin Coward here, but I feel like Kyle and Murray's biggest problem is he's a baseball player. Baseball players, they care about themselves. They have individual accolades. Football is a team sport. Kyle Murray's a baseball player.

This is an psychological assessment of an athlete's mentality that cannot be factually proven.

This led to a wider discussion about the most hated quarterbacks in the league, with Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray leading the pack. Between Wilson's bizarre birthday party attendance numbers and Kyler's Twitch habits, the guys are finding it hard to root for the league's highest-paid signal callers.

Week 13 Picks and the Mike White Hype

Billy Football is back in the studio and he’s fully bought into the Mike White experience. After a dominant performance against the Bears, Billy is setting the bar at an astronomical level for the Jets' new QB1.

Loss
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19166
Billy FootballBilly Football

Mike White's ceiling is Tom Brady

So I like Mike. His ceiling is Tom Brady. I said this when he got his ceiling is Tom Brady.

Mike White never became a franchise starter, let alone Tom Brady. He was a backup for the Dolphins shortly after.

PFT isn't quite as sold on the Mike White hype train, but he’s still feeling bold about the Sunday slate. He’s putting his reputation on the line with a Lions pick that suggests Dan Campbell is about to hunt some Jaguars.

Win
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19167
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Lions will destroy the Jaguars in Week 13

Give the lions minus three. Whoa. I The lions minus three. I'm putting 'em on the table right now. It's not gonna happen. Love that outta the lines are gonna destroy him.

The Lions beat the Jaguars 40-14 on December 4, 2022. PFT was exactly right.

Big Cat, meanwhile, is looking for "double revenge" in the biggest game of the weekend. He’s backing Patrick Mahomes to finally solve the Bengals' puzzle after two painful losses last season.

Loss
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19168
Big CatBig Cat

The Chiefs will have a 'double revenge' game and beat the Bengals

The Kansas City Chiefs double revenge minus two double revenge spot. Double revenge means something. The chiefs are going for double revenge. Last year they lost in the regular season and AFC championship game. I think this is the best the chiefs are going to look all season. Is this weekend on Sunday?

The Bengals beat the Chiefs 27-24 on December 4, 2022. The double revenge narrative failed.

Jerry O'Connell’s Fantasy Masterclass

Friend of the program Jerry O'Connell joined the show from his home gym—specifically the Smith machine—to check in on the PMT fantasy team. Jerry is currently managing the team into the playoffs, but he’s wary of the Jets' sudden success. As a lifelong Jets fan, he knows the other shoe is always waiting to drop, especially with Mike White.

Loss
Dec 2, 2022
#19171
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

Mike White has a four-interception game coming soon

The only thing I'm worried about was that four pick game last season. It's like, you know, that's there somewhere. You know what I'm saying? You know, it's almost like herpes, you know... You know there's a four pick game coming up with Mike White. We just hope it's not the weekend.

White didn't have a 4-INT game in the remainder of 2022, though he struggled with injuries and inconsistent play before being benched/replaced.

Jerry also shared his unique gambling philosophy, which involves avoiding parlays at all costs and sticking to the "Right Horse" method. Before he left, he delivered a touching, yet deeply personal, poem for Hank that touched on everything from the Patriots' mediocrity to Hank’s inability to hit a single number on the lottery ball machine.

To wrap up the show, the guys got into a Liver King-inspired segment of Fantasy Primals and shared their Fyre Fests of the week, including Hank being compared to Grandpa Joe from Willy Wonka and PFT’s accidental 36-hour bachelor party trip to Panama.

At least the lottery ball machine remains consistent: Hank still hasn't won.

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More Takes

Void
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#23139
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would rather have Tom Brady's career than Patrick Mahomes' career

I'd rather personally have Tom Brady's career than Patrick Mahomes' career.

Subjective comparison of two legendary careers.
Loss
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#23140
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Chiefs are entering 'candy ass' territory and could struggle in the playoffs

The only thing I don't like about the Chiefs this year is they don't even pretend to have a run game... the Chiefs might be falling into candy ass territory as we get into the playoffs.

The Chiefs actually went on to win the Super Bowl this season, proving they were not 'candy asses' in the playoffs.
Loss
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#23141
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike McDaniel is not a coach who can turn a locker room around if things go bad

Leading into this season, we all had to take that if things go bad for the dolphins, [Mike McDaniel] is not the guy that's gonna be able to like turn things around if the locker room starts to turn... I need like a three game losing streak outta the dolphins so I can be like, this guy is soft. This guy's not a football coach.

The Dolphins went on a 5-game losing streak shortly after this episode (Weeks 13-17) and McDaniel managed to get them into the playoffs anyway.
Win
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#23142
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Giants are the worst team in the NFL if games were only three quarters long

The Giants are the worst team in the league... the worst team in the league if football games were three quarters long. I think they'd be undefeated [Ravens] and the Giants would be two, seven and two in the first three quarters.

This was a widely cited stat at the time regarding the Giants' poor point differential early in games.
Push
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19169
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Deshaun Watson will be rusty and the Texans will cover +7

Texans plus seven Dashaun Watson's coming back. He is playing his first game of football since January 3rd, 2021. That's essentially two years. In between football games. That's a long time. It's a long time to not play football. Yes.

The Browns won 27-14. Watson was indeed rusty (131 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT), but the Browns defense/special teams scored 3 TDs, covering the spread.
Loss
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#19170
HankHank

Tom Brady is coming back to play for the Patriots next season

I'm kind of, I'm I'm back on Brady. You don't think the reason they left is cuz Giselle. He missed you the entire time. If Brady wants to come back, like that's, that's really all it is. Basically. They have the cap space to do it if they want to, which I'm sure they would. And I'm sure Tom wants to come back.

Brady retired for good (or so it seems) following the 2022 season and never returned to the Patriots as a player.
Win
Dec 2, 2022·Picks
#23143
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers will likely 'skull fuck' the Bears in Week 13

Aaron Rodgers seems like he's definitely playing and he's being a real dick about everything... he's probably gonna skull fuck me. I might as well make some money off it.

The Packers beat the Bears 28-19 in Week 13.
Loss
Dec 2, 2022
#23144
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

The Browns will make a run now that Deshaun Watson is back

They could make a run. Come on guys. They have a ground game. They have receivers, they have a defense. The one missing piece was [Watson] is coming in.

The Browns went 3-3 with Watson and missed the playoffs.
Loss
Dec 2, 2022
#19173
Jerry O'ConnellJerry O'Connell

The Colts will cover +11 against the Cowboys in Week 13

The Colts are gonna cover over Dallas. I don't know, I just think, you know, my book was giving 11 points last I checked and I just think the Cols are gonna cover.

The Cowboys defeated the Colts 54-19. The Colts did not cover.

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