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Wednesday, August 5, 202021 takes

Games all day every day has the whole crew in a great mood. Conversation about the bubble, high thoughts and hockey.(-) Hot Seat Cool Throne including the XFL, Big Ben being more injured than anyone ever and the debut of Stool Streams (GET EXCITED). (-) JJ Redick joins us from the bubble to talk about launching his new podcast, Zion rules, NCAA and how he needs to become hateable again. (-) Segments include Billy’s big sheet (-) and guys on chicks (-)

JJ Redick on the NBA Bubble, Duke Hate, and His New Podcast

The sports world is finally back in full swing, and Big Cat and PFT are riding the high of having games on the screen from noon until 1:00 AM. Between Devin Booker hitting icy buzzer-beaters and playoff hockey returning to its stressful glory, the mood in the studio is electric. PFT is already analyzing the nuances of the restart, specifically noting that Devin Booker has reached a new level of superstardom based purely on his post-shot horizontal celebration.

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Aug 5, 2020
#16793
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Devin Booker is officially 'a dude' because of how he celebrated his game-winner

I'm on board the Devin Booker train just watching his body language after he made the shot. He basically went to sleep... a person that reacts like that, that guy is a dude.

Subjective take on a player's 'it' factor.

The conversation shifted to the logistics of sports returning, leading Big Cat to wonder why the NCAA isn't just following the lead of the pros to give us the tournament we missed out on in March.

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Aug 5, 2020
#16794
Big CatBig Cat

The NCAA should run the March Madness tournament in a bubble right now

Why aren't we just doing the NCAA tournament right now? Like if someone... go, yeah. Hey, whoever wants to win the presidential election just pay for it. Like that would be pretty good. How about him in a bubble? And let's just do the NCAA tournament.

They never did this; college sports returned on a more traditional schedule later that fall.

Hot Seat Cool Throne

Hot Seat/Cool Throne was headlined by the triumphant return of the XFL, now owned by The Rock. PFT is convinced that the sale isn't just a business transaction but a high-level setup for a multi-year wrestling angle between Johnson and Vince McMahon.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rock buying the XFL is a staged WWE-style feud with Vince McMahon

I think that this is work. I think that I think that this is WWE. A situation where the rock but McMahon's baby from underneath them. And now it's going to be like a WWE style Feud which is what the XFL should be in the first place.

The Rock did buy the league, but it wasn't a scripted WWE feud; it was a standard bankruptcy auction purchase, and the league later merged with the USFL.

On the Cool Throne, Big Cat highlighted Ben Roethlisberger, who seems to be in a season-long competition with himself to see just how many body parts he can have surgically repaired. According to Big Ben, he isn't just injured; he’s historically injured.

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Big CatBig Cat

Big Ben Roethlisberger loves being the most injured person in the world

Big Ben is on my cool Throne because Big Ben no one likes to tell you how injured they are as much as Big Ben... from what I understand not three [ligaments], so he's flexing about who's three torn ligaments in his elbow.

Subjective characterization of Roethlisberger's public persona.

Meanwhile, the MLB bubble is facing its own challenges, specifically regarding players leaving to acquire dairy. PFT defended the logic, noting that when the craving for cookies and milk hits, protocols become secondary to satisfaction.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The urge for a glass of milk to wash down cookies is an unstoppable force that justifies breaking MLB bubble protocols.

If you get it in your head that you need a glass of milk, you have to go get a glass of milk. If you get in your head that you're thirsty and you need milk to wash down Oreos, guess what you're going to do? Come hell or high water, you're going to go get some fucking milk.

This is a humorous subjective defense of a player's behavior.

JJ Redick Joins the Show

JJ Redick joined the show from the NBA bubble to discuss the launch of his new company, 342 Productions, and his new podcast, *The Old Man and the Three*. After years of being a top-tier guest and contributor elsewhere, JJ decided it was time to take the reins of his own media future.

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Aug 5, 2020
#27280
JJ RedickJJ Redick

It was time for me to own my own podcast network rather than just being a contractor for other companies.

My contract with the Ringer was up. I've been there for three years and for Tommy [Alter] and I, we just wanted to own the podcast. I figured I had been doing podcasts for four years and I felt like it was time for me to actually own the podcast and build out a little podcast network.

This is a personal business philosophy.

JJ gave some incredible insight into the atmosphere in Orlando, describing the "Broadway stage" feel of the empty arenas and the "muffled" fake crowd noise that makes it hard to hear coaching instructions. Despite the weirdness, he’s been blown away by the quality of play.

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Aug 5, 2020
#27281
JJ RedickJJ Redick

The basketball in the NBA bubble is surprisingly high-level and the players are in great shape despite the layoff.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised, maybe even a little bit shocked, at how in shape everybody has been. The shot making has been unbelievable... It's just been high-level basketball. It's been amazing. It's been incredible.

This is an expert opinion from a player inside the bubble.

Moving to his college days, the conversation got deep regarding the NCAA's amateurism model. JJ and Big Cat agreed that the current system is a relic of the past that doesn't account for the massive revenue being generated by the players' likenesses.

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Aug 5, 2020
#16800
JJ RedickJJ Redick

NBA players are not amateurs and the 1930s model of amateurism is dead

To argue for amateurism Based On A system that was set up in the 1930s and 1940s prior to billion dollar TV contracts and ticket sales and Merchandising is crazy. Amateurism does not exist in high-level college basketball and high-level college football.

Subjective economic/moral opinion.

Big Cat proposed a free-market solution for recruiting that would let boosters pay players openly, arguing that the system would eventually find its own equilibrium.

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Aug 5, 2020
#27282
Big CatBig Cat

College sports boosters should be allowed to pay players openly because the market would naturally correct itself once donors tire of busts.

I honestly think that they should just put it all above board and be like boosters can pay players... rich people don't like to just hand their money away. So when they make a mistake on paying an 18 year old kid and the kid doesn't pan out, they're going to think twice about the next kid and it will correct... it will kind of come back down to earth.

This is a subjective proposal for NCAA reform.

JJ also reflected on his time at Duke and why he became one of the most hated players in college basketball history. He explained that at 19, he didn't have the tools to handle the vitriol, which created a defensive cycle of being an "asshole" on the court.

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Aug 5, 2020
#27283
JJ RedickJJ Redick

I was only an 'asshole' at Duke because I was a 19-year-old who didn't know how to handle the cycle of hate from fans.

The only reason I played the game in the first place was to be an asshole... I was fucking 19 years old and I had to deal with this, and you know, at that age you're unsure of yourself. I would see the hate, I would feel the hate, I would hear the hate, and then I would react to that, and then my reaction would garner more hate. That cycle just kept repeating itself.

This is a personal reflection on his own life and behavior.

Billy’s Big Sheet and Guys on Chicks

To close out, the crew touched on Billy Football’s latest research, including a Twitter spat between Clay Travis and Darren Rovell that PFT found more punishing than a life sentence.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Reading a Twitter fight between Clay Travis and Darren Rovell is worse than a 20-year prison sentence

If you're like, hey, you have to go to prison for the next 20 years or you have to spend the next two days reading their [Clay Travis and Darren Rovell] back and forth. I choose prison. Yeah, it's like the most popular nerd verse the least popular not nerd.

Clearly hyperbolic and subjective.

We also addressed a listener's concern about her husband wanting to play golf every single day of their honeymoon. Big Cat offered some veteran perspective on the different "tiers" of golf guys and which ones you actually need to worry about.

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Big CatBig Cat

Serious golf guys who travel to Scotland won't cheat on their wives, but business golf guys will

What from you from your perspective... the business golf guys will [cheat]. The like I'm just going to play a few rounds here and there, that guy will cheat on you. The I want to go to Scotland and all I want to do is play golf at one golf... that's his form of cheating on me.

Subjective theory on male behavior.

If you get sent mystery seeds in the mail, please do not eat them, no matter how much PFT wants to see what happens.

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Win
Aug 5, 2020
#16795
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The hockey ice in Toronto is significantly worse than the ice in Edmonton

Can someone explain to me going back to hockey the difference between the ice in Edmonton and the ice in Toronto because the Toronto ice sucks... Toronto ice is super choppy. It's like iced soup.

While subjective, many players and analysts echoed that the Toronto ice struggled under the heat and high volume of games.
Void
Aug 5, 2020
#27275
Big CatBig Cat

If Ron Artest were in the NBA bubble, he would treat the empty gym like the office in 'Office Space' and start smashing equipment.

My other high weird idea was how crazy would it be if Ron Artest was still playing in the NBA that he would go nuts... because there are no fans for him to go into the stands and he just treats it like 'Office Space' and starts smashing equipment.

This is a hypothetical scenario about a retired player that cannot be verified.
Void
Aug 5, 2020
#27276
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Golfers should have uniforms or 'shirsies' so fans can support them without having to spend 20 weeks in the gym to look like Brooks Koepka.

Why don't golfers have uniforms like a shirsy that the fans can wear? If I want to go out and support Brooks Koepka, I have to spend like 20 weeks in the gym and get swole as shit for people to know that I'm a supporter. Why don't we make uniforms or shirsies for golfers?

This is a subjective proposal for a change in golf culture.
Loss
Aug 5, 2020
#27277
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL and its doctors will eventually just lie about players' COVID-19 statuses to ensure the season gets played.

I'm just confident that football after doing it for so many years, they'll just all lie about it. All the doctors, all the [teams] will just lie about it. And yeah, I mean, I guess that's the wrong thing to do. But I'm also not going to choose anyone of lying buying group.

The NFL successfully completed the 2020 season without a confirmed scandal of systematic doctor-led lying about test results.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gardner Minshew is effectively the vaccine for COVID-19

My hot seat is the coronavirus. That's right. It's back on the hot seat because we've discovered a vaccine. And that's just being Gardner Minshew. Yeah. So Gardner Minshew tested positive and he said that the virus took one look at him and turn the other way.

Hot TakeLifeHotSarcastic
Literally incorrect, as Minshew is not a medical vaccine.
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Big CatBig Cat

Lakers fans are effectively oppressed because they haven't been to the playoffs in five years.

Lakers fans, because after they clinched the number one seed Kyle Kuzma tweeted 'real Laker fans remember the losing seasons.' They haven't been to the playoffs for five years... It was tough to go from Kobe and Shaq to just Kobe to just LeBron to LeBron and AD. A lot of lean years in there.

This is a satirical commentary on fan entitlement.
Win
Aug 5, 2020
#16799
JJ RedickJJ Redick

It is inevitable that Power 5 football and basketball players will be financially compensated

It's inevitable now, it's inevitable that power 5 football and basketball players are going to be compensated in some form. It's inevitable, right? It's going to happen and... not a not just saying from the like this obviously, you know, the the NCAA I think is going to allow players to use their likeness starting after next season.

Correct. NIL was implemented in July 2021, allowing players to be compensated.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You should definitely plant mystery seeds sent from China even if the government says not to

I saw the story over the weekend and I get the US government was saying do not plant seeds that come ship to you from China. Fuck that. If I get mystery seeds. The first thing I'm going to do is plant those.

The seeds turned out to be common herbs and flowers, not 'Golden Gooses' or 'Ticket Trees', but they were discouraged for being invasive.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am officially an ex-NFL kicker because I was once offered an NFL-adjacent tryout.

I'm going to claim that because I was offered a tryout, I'm now an ex-NFL kicker.

Fact ClaimFootballMildSarcastic
PFT did receive a tryout offer from the XFL and worked with specialists, but he never actually played in or made an NFL roster.

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