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Monday, October 2, 201714 takes

Week 4 Fastest 2 Minutes ( - ). Should the Patriots Panic, are Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, and Joe Flacco done or finished and football headaches ( - ). Who's Back of the Week ( - ). Football Guy of the Week featuring the newest hold back guy Adam Smotherman ( - ). Jets Running Back Matt Forte joins the show to talk about being a running back in the NFL for a decade, how locker rooms work, and whether or not he could take us in a fight ( - ). Segments include Clutch Gene for Pablo Sandoval, the debut of our newest segment "Pardon My Woke", PR 101 for OJ Simpsons, Bad Sports Town Barcelona, and That's Enough Internet For Today

Matt Forte on the Jets, Locker Room Politics, and Fighting Big Cat

Week 4 is in the books, and the NFL landscape is a total mess. The Buffalo Bills are leading the AFC East, and the New England Patriots are currently tied with the New York Jets at 2-2. While the world panics about the Patriots' defense, Big Cat has a theory that Bill Belichick is actually playing 4D chess to keep his coaching staff intact.

Loss
Oct 2, 2017
#6633
Big CatBig Cat

Bill Belichick is tanking the Patriots' defense to prevent Matt Patricia from being hired as a head coach elsewhere

Is this Bill Belichick being the master puppeteer and making Matt Patricia undesirable for other teams to hire away this offseason? Because guess what? No one's going to want to interview him after this shit. He'll be there another year.

While the defense was poor, Matt Patricia was still hired as the Detroit Lions head coach following the season, disproving the idea he became undesirable.

Speaking of teams exceeding expectations, the Rams are officially fun again. PFT is ready to crown Jared Goff as more than just a guy who doesn't know where the sun rises.

Push
Oct 2, 2017
#6635
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jared Goff is an NFL MVP candidate.

Jared Goff is good. Jared Goff, league MVP candidate.

Goff had a massive turnaround season in 2017, leading the Rams to the playoffs and making the Pro Bowl, but he was not a serious MVP finalist (Tom Brady won).

However, we can't give all the credit to Sean McVay just yet. The spirit of 7-9 lives on in Los Angeles, and PFT is making sure we don't forget the man who built the foundation for this turnaround.

Loss
Oct 2, 2017
#6637
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean McVay is winning with Jeff Fisher's players and Jeff Fisher didn't get enough credit for developing them

McVay is winning with Jeff Fisher's players. That's the thing. It's a bad situation because obviously Jeff didn't get enough chances to develop his guys. And so somebody else comes in and they take advantage of it.

While the roster was largely the same, the consensus is that McVay's coaching was the primary reason for the immediate turnaround from 4-12 to 11-5.

College Football Chaos and Alabama Dominance

Coach O and LSU had a rough weekend losing to Troy on homecoming, which led to a discussion about his true ceiling. Big Cat pointed out that while Coach O can whip a locker room into a frenzy as an interim, the magic might fade when he's the guy from day one.

Loss
Oct 2, 2017
#6639
Big CatBig Cat

Coach O is the greatest interim head coach of all time, but not a great permanent head coach

Coach O is the greatest interim head coach of all time. Of all time. You give him some guys that aren't getting the most out of themselves... Coach O will whip them into shape in two seconds. You give Coach O the team from day one... he's a great interim coach. He's not the greatest head coach.

Ed Orgeron went on to win the National Championship as the permanent head coach of LSU in 2019, proving he was more than just an interim specialist.

Then there is Clemson and Alabama, two juggernauts that make the rest of the sport look like a JV scrimmage. Hank thinks Dabo Swinney is simply a more modern, tech-savvy version of the GOAT in Tuscaloosa.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#6641
HankHank

Dabo Swinney is millennial Nick Saban

Dabo Swinney has yet to hit his prime football guy years. Dabo is millennial Nick Saban. That's it. Right there. He's Nick Saban with a smartphone.

This is a subjective comparison between two legendary college football coaches based on their dominance and generational differences.

Alabama is so dominant right now that the conversation has shifted from "could they beat the Browns?" to "could their backups beat the rest of the SEC?"

Loss
Oct 2, 2017·Who's Back
#6643
Big CatBig Cat

Alabama's second string could win the SEC

Alabama debates are back... could Alabama's second team win the SEC? Because they're deep. Real deep... the Hawaiian quarterback [Tua Tagovailoa], the second string, it would be unbelievable.

While Alabama's roster was historically deep, no second-string team could realistically win a major conference.

Matt Forte Joins the Show

Jets running back Matt Forte joined the show to discuss how he has managed to stay productive into his 10th season. He gave us some great insight into the different coaching styles he has seen, specifically why Mark Trestman's tenure in Chicago didn't work out despite his offensive mind.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#23420
Matt ForteMatt Forte

A 'nice guy' coaching approach does not work in the NFL.

Coach Trestman, it was more like kind of the nice guy approach... which that doesn't work in NFL. I'm a nice guy as well, but I'm on the field trying to put my foot on your throat. It just didn't work that way.

This is a subjective opinion based on Forte's personal experience in locker rooms, but Mark Trestman's 13-19 record in Chicago supports the take.

Being a Bears legend, Forte looked back at the 2010 season and that infamous NFC Championship game against the Packers. He didn't hedge when it came to how that game—and that season—would have ended if Jay Cutler's knee had held up.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#6646
Matt ForteMatt Forte

The Bears would have won the Super Bowl if Jay Cutler hadn't been injured in the 2010 NFC Championship

I wish when we were there, when we went to NFC Championship and we lost... Would have won a Super Bowl if Jay [Cutler] didn't hurt his knee. Fact.

The Bears lost to the Packers 21-14. While they were close, it's impossible to verify they would have beaten the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

He also gave some love to the terrible turf at Soldier Field. While fans hate it, Forte explained that the local "sandbox" actually serves as a home-field advantage for the Bears' offensive players who are used to the footing.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#23421
Matt ForteMatt Forte

Premier pass rushers struggle at Soldier Field because of the poor field quality.

I like Soldier Field, though, because you wear those spikes in there. Everybody's not prepared for it. If you notice, all the premier pass rushers that come to Soldier Field, they never have the greatest games or sometimes they get shut down.

While technical, it's a widely held belief among NFL players that the poor turf in Chicago during this era hindered pass rushing.

Before letting him go, things got a bit heated when Forte claimed he could easily take both Big Cat and PFT in a fight, even offering a "one-hitter quitter" for Big Cat.

Segments and Woke Culture

The show debuted a new segment called "Pardon My Woke," aimed at competing with the high-brow intellectual podcasts jumping PMT in the rankings. We also checked in on the New York Giants, who are currently 0-4 and spiraling. Big Cat thinks Odell Beckham Jr. is starting to adopt some very familiar attention-seeking habits.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#6648
Big CatBig Cat

Odell Beckham Jr. is the new J.J. Watt of milking injuries for attention

Odell might be the new J.J. Watt in terms of always being injured and showing how he's in. He has the injuries that he then plays through those injuries. Kind of a Tiger Woods thing... oh, my finger. Wow, let's do a million sideline reports on my finger while I keep playing.

Subjective comparison of player branding and media coverage.

In PR 101, O.J. Simpson was released from prison, and PFT had a very specific, very violent suggestion for how the Juice could finally earn back the forgiveness of the American public.

Loss
Oct 2, 2017·PR 101
#6649
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

OJ Simpson could redeem his public image by murdering Bill Cosby

If OJ wants to, if he really wants to be a success in America again, go kill Bill Cosby. So if OJ just straight up murdered Bill Cosby, I think you'd see a lot of people forgive him. Forgive and forget.

OJ Simpson did not murder Bill Cosby.

Finally, the guys wrapped up with a discussion on hobbies. According to Big Cat, if you are a man and you aren't spending your free time watching sports or playing video games, you are basically a walking red flag.

Void
Oct 2, 2017
#6651
Big CatBig Cat

Hobbies are red flags for men; you should only play video games or watch sports

If a man has a hobby, that's just a red flag. Hobbies are red flags always and forever. You either play video games or you watch sports. That's how men do it.

Inherently subjective and comedic lifestyle advice.

Don't let your kids play the flute.

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More Takes

Loss
Oct 2, 2017·Who's Back
#23419
Big CatBig Cat

Jay Cutler has at least two more years left as a quarterback in the NFL.

I think we have another, like, two years of Jay [Cutler] in the NFL.

Jay Cutler retired for good after the 2017 season, meaning he did not have two more years left.
Void
Oct 2, 2017
#23422
HankHank

Brandon Marshall would easily win a fight against Odell Beckham Jr.

Brandon Marshall would whip the shit out of Odell Beckham.

This is a subjective opinion on a hypothetical physical confrontation.

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