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Mick Cronin, Jay Glazer, and the Grit Week 19 Finale

Friday, May 24, 201921 takes

Grit Week 19 comes to a close and the Bucks are officially cursed by Aaron Rodgers lack of chugging ability.  Drake is being Drake and we recap the week out in LA. (-) Fyre Fest Of The Week. (-) UCLA Head Coach Mick Cronin joins us to talk about grit, his decision to take the job, how he'll miss fighting Xavier and how he's actually a football guy trapped in a basketball coach's body. (-) Jay Glazer joins the show from his gym and we talk grit and justice for his Odell scoop. (-) Segments include Danny kennel asks a question and we play unreal audio of a guy addicted to weed. (-) Sabermetrics (-) and FAQ's with sound guy Charles (-)

Mick Cronin on UCLA and Jay Glazer on NFL Sourcing and Grit

Grit Week 19 has officially come to a close, and while it’s sad to see the van go back into storage, we went out with a bang in Los Angeles. Big Cat and PFT are feeling the effects of a week spent doing fifteen-plus interviews, but nothing wakes you up like a fresh set of smelling salts and the realization that the Milwaukee Bucks are in serious trouble.

We finally sat down to watch some actual basketball, and the vibes in Wisconsin are at an all-time low. It all traces back to the quarterback. Watching Aaron Rodgers struggle to finish a beer while David Bakhtiari was crushing multiples in the background was a tough look for the Dairy State.

Win
May 24, 2019
#15593
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The speed at which a city's NFL players chug beer is directly correlated to the success of their local NBA/NHL teams

I said at the start of the playoffs, I was like, the speed in which your football players chug beers is directly correlated to your basketball team's success in the playoffs. And we've seen it time and again in the NHL, in the NBA. And guess what? [Aaron] Rodgers absolutely cursed [the Bucks].

The Bucks were up 2-0 and lost four straight games to the Raptors immediately following the viral video of Rodgers failing to chug a beer.

PFT is convinced there is a direct scientific link between how fast your NFL stars can chug and how far your basketball team goes. Big Cat took it a step further, suggesting that Rodgers might need to find a new home if he can't figure out the mechanics of a pint.

Void
May 24, 2019
#15594
Big CatBig Cat

If you can't chug a beer in the state of Wisconsin, you should be excommunicated

There's actually no state worse to be in and not be able to chug a beer than the state of Wisconsin. If you can't chug a beer in the state of Wisconsin, you've got to get out instantly.

This is an opinion on social norms in Wisconsin.

Mick Cronin’s West Coast Grit

New UCLA head coach Mick Cronin joined us in the van to discuss moving his Cincinnati toughness to the bright lights of Hollywood. He’s essentially a football coach trapped in a basketball body, and he’s not here for the flash. He’s looking for guys who can actually box out and play defense, even if he has to buy all new underwear because he’s been living out of a suitcase since he took the job.

Void
May 24, 2019
#15599
Mick CroninMick Cronin

In college basketball, you must 'plant a flag' and never lose games at home to build a real program

You just have to set that tone like you can't lose at home. If you're going to build a real program, you've got to plant a flag in your home arena.

This is a coaching philosophy, though statistics generally support the value of home-court advantage in college basketball.

Cronin talked about the importance of setting a tone early and how he used to threaten his Cincinnati players with open tryouts for the football team when they played soft. He also gave us a scoop on the college game moving toward the FIBA three-point line, though he’s skeptical about what it will do for the product on the floor.

Push
May 24, 2019
#15600
Mick CroninMick Cronin

Moving the college three-point line back will open the floor but might make the game uglier due to poor shooting

So we're going to the FIBA line... a foot and a half [back]. So the theory is that it'll open the floor up more. I'd agree with that. But again, are you going to stretch your defense if guys can't make the shot? So you have coaches that think it's going to be great. You have coaches that think, well, it's just going to be less guys can make it. So it's going to be uglier.

The NCAA did move the line back for the 2019-20 season. Scoring and 3PT percentages dipped slightly but the floor spacing benefits were realized.

We also touched on the elite talent he’s inherited and recruited, specifically looking at guys who can actually defend at a high level.

Win
May 24, 2019
#15598
Mick CroninMick Cronin

Jrue Holiday is arguably the best defensive guard in the NBA

Drew [Jrue] Holiday... Drew might be known as maybe as the best defensive guard in the NBA. I'm glad you're on. No, I agree with that. Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. Shut down Lillard in the playoffs last year.

Jrue Holiday has been named to multiple All-Defensive First Teams and is widely cited by peers as the toughest defender to play against.

Jay Glazer and the Odell Scoop

Jay Glazer welcomed us to his Unbreakable gym, where he immediately put Big Cat and PFT through the ringer. After some light sparring and a lot of heavy breathing, we got into the grit of NFL reporting. Jay still feels the heat from Giants fans over his Odell Beckham Jr. trade scoop, but as he pointed out, he’s in the business of being right, not being liked.

Win
May 24, 2019
#15602
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The Giants are bad at collecting accurate intel on other teams' draft boards

The Daniel Jones thing, look, I think the Giants don't do a good job of finding out accurate information that other teams can do... When he [Gettleman] talked about the Redskins and the Broncos, that's not true... I think they could have waited past six [to draft Daniel Jones].

While Gettleman insisted Jones wouldn't last, reports from the Redskins and Broncos front offices later suggested they were not considering Jones at those spots.

He didn't hold back on the Giants' front office or their decision-making process during the draft. While the rest of the world is wondering if Dave Gettleman is on a short leash after taking Daniel Jones at six, Jay says the Giants simply don't move that fast.

Win
May 24, 2019
#15601
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The Giants don't operate with urgency; Gettleman isn't on the hot seat despite the Daniel Jones pick

No, because the Giants don't operate that way. Giants have more patience in the GM than any team... GMs. Their GM has always made the picks.

Gettleman remained the Giants GM through the 2021 season, proving the Giants were indeed patient.

Beyond the Giants, Jay gave us his outlook on the Browns and whether or not Baker Mayfield can handle the influx of massive personalities in Cleveland. He’s a big believer in the kid’s ability to lead a locker room of "gangsters."

Loss
May 24, 2019
#15604
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Baker Mayfield is a 'gangster' who will control the Browns' big personalities

Baker Mayfield is a gangster. He's not going to handle people trying to, me, me, me, I want the ball. He's going to put it where it needs to go, and he's going to control that locker room. Baker's different, man. He's special.

While Mayfield had leadership traits, the Browns went 6-10 in 2019 and the locker room dynamic was frequently described as dysfunctional.

Fyre Fest and Final Takes

Grit Week wouldn't be complete without some physical damage and hygiene issues. PFT is currently nursing a "pretty much broken rib" after a failed attempt at doing the worm during a Chaos Bros filming session. Hank, meanwhile, reached a new level of grit by admitting he actually shit his pants this morning while editing stool scenes. It’s the kind of honesty you only get after a week in a van that smells exclusively like In-N-Out burgers and regret.

We wrapped things up with some Sabermetrics, where Big Cat voiced his support for the old-school Triple Crown stats over the nerd-driven analytics that are currently taking over baseball.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

RBIs are the most important and only truly meaningful stat in baseball

RBIs are actually the most important stat when you actually look at it... The team who has the most RBIs... I'm not even counting runs anymore.

Statistically, runs scored is more fundamental than RBIs, but Big Cat is making a joke about old-school baseball logic.

It's been a hell of a week on the road, but we're ready to get back to New York and smell the regular trash instead of the West Coast trash.

Hopefully, someone buys Hank some new boxers before the flight.

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Void
May 24, 2019
#15597
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Drake is a Canadian version of a trash-talker who waits to respond via subtle social media changes

That's the most Canadian response ever to a disc track is to just wait and then subtly change your social media. Yeah, take as much time as possible. That's as mean as they get in Canada.

Drake's behavior on social media is a well-documented part of his public persona.
Win
May 24, 2019
#15595
Big CatBig Cat

Kawhi Leonard is such an efficient, robotic player that you don't even realize he has 35 points until the game is over

Kawhi [Leonard] is the fucking guy who... You can just watch a game and not realize that he's got 35 points. You know what I mean? Because it's so efficient and it's so robotic and steady throughout where it just happens.

Kawhi Leonard's 2019 playoff run is statistically noted for its historical efficiency.
Void
May 24, 2019
#25260
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Having Drake on the sidelines during the NBA Finals adds necessary intrigue to the series

I want Drake in the finals... I've thought about it, and having [Drake] on the sidelines for what I think would be a short NBA finals would add at least a little bit of intrigue to it.

The Raptors did make the finals and Drake was a major story, though whether it was 'intrigue' is subjective.
Loss
May 24, 2019
#15596
HankHank

The Warriors will win the 2019 NBA Finals in five games

I think the Warriors sweeper going five.

The Toronto Raptors defeated the Golden State Warriors 4-2 to win the 2019 NBA Finals.
Void
May 24, 2019
#25261
Mick CroninMick Cronin

Successful coaches must ignore contractual perks and focus solely on what wins games

[Bob Huggins] taught me: Worry about things that matter. A lot of guys in our business, they worry about what car they're getting with their contract. Things that have nothing to do with winning. Just focus on what you need to do to win.

This is a management philosophy that cannot be empirically proven or disproven.
Void
May 24, 2019
#25262
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Instagram and social media are creating a mental health crisis because people compare their real lives to others' highlights

There's so much hate on social media. People are... I think the soul is not used to it. People then comparing themselves to everyone's highlights and Instagram. Instagram ain't the real world.

A widely held sociological opinion that remains a matter of ongoing debate and research.
Void
May 24, 2019
#15603
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

None of the 2019 quarterback prospects except Kyler Murray would have been first-rounders in the 2018 draft

And if you put... Any of those guys in last year's draft, I don't think any of them except Kyler would have been a first-round pick.

This is a comparison of draft grades across years; while subjective, it aligned with many scouting consensus views at the time.
Loss
May 24, 2019
#15605
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Rob Gronkowski might return to the NFL in November once the 'training wheels' of retirement come off

I think Gronk, once the training wheels come off, at one point I could see him go, you know what? We're close. I need three games. Like November. Why not?

Gronk did not play in the 2019 NFL season; he remained retired until being traded to the Buccaneers in April 2020.
Loss
May 24, 2019
#15606
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The NFL should fire all current referees and replace them with Special Ops combat veterans

The nfl to fix its refereeing problem they should just fire all the refs and hire nothing but special ops... Special ops. And teach them how to officiate football games. Is that the reaction time for special ops guys are going to be better than these guys... You put them there together as a team... Plus, they got, you know, bullets are flying. These guys react better.

The NFL has not replaced its officiating corps with Special Ops veterans.
Void
May 24, 2019
#25263
Big CatBig Cat

Marijuana is objectively a safer and better option for pain management than addictive opioids

[Marijuana] is probably better than the thing [opioids] that kills 70,000 people a year and was basically created by doctors and big health care to make a shitload of money at the expense of people getting hooked to very, very addictive drugs.

While scientifically supported by many metrics, it remains a matter of medical and political debate.
Void
May 24, 2019
#25264
Big CatBig Cat

You will never win an argument online, so the best strategy is to never reply

Never reply online because you'll always lose. But if you do reply and you're going to be the reply guy, you might as well just go full reply all the time like Kevin Durant. There's no turning back the clock for Kevin Durant.

This is a social observation/advice that cannot be proved or disproved.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Direct messages on Twitter or Instagram officially count as 'texting' for reporting purposes

A text is a tweet, a DM, an Instagram DM, an Instagram comment... Broussard did the classic thing where... he says that Kevin Durant and he exchanged many DMs... he's not having it [the debate if a DM is a text]. It's all just a text now.

The definition of 'texting' in common parlance has expanded to include various forms of digital messaging.

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