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NFL Draft W/ Ross Tucker And QB Whisperer Carson Palmer's Brother Jordan Palmer

Wednesday, April 25, 201819 takes

We freed Meek Mill, not a big deal. NBA Playoff recap, the Celtics/Bucks are in a rock fight,  Russ is cancelled, Playoff P needs to get a new nickname, Melo is washed and the T-Wolves got bukkakeed ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Mike Francesca and a new surgery that gets you a new dick ( - ). Ross Tucker joins the show to talk about the 2018 Draft, who he likes out of the 5 first round quarterbacks, how the scouting system has flaws, and tells a story about Dan Snyder being cheap as hell ( - ). QB Coach Jordan Palmer joins the show to talk about his coaching of Sam Darnold/Josh Rosen, what each guy can do to improve their game and who he likes most out of the two ( - ). PR 101 for Kevin Durant sucking at social media per usual, Ehhhhh Case Keenum walked in on John Elway and Baker Mayfield, Sabermetrics Colin Cowherd unleashes Manalytics and Guys on Chicks.

Ross Tucker and Jordan Palmer on the 2018 NFL Draft

We start the show on a high note because we finally did it: we freed Meek Mill. After months of tireless advocacy (or at least mentioning it during the Super Bowl), Meek is out of jail and immediately hopped on a helicopter to ring the bell at a Sixers game. It’s the ultimate PR pivot from his previous public standing.

Void
Apr 25, 2018
#28952
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Meek Mill going to prison was actually great PR because it made everyone forget that Drake murdered him in a rap beef

I think this is great PR for Meek Mill. I think he's totally, like, everyone's forgotten about [the Drake beef]. ... Now he's a hero.

While subjective, it is a common observation about the 'Free Meek' movement's impact on his career.

Speaking of people needing a fresh start, Big Cat has officially reached his breaking point with Russell Westbrook after the Thunder star got absolutely owned by a jersey-wearing Mitt Romney. Between the fashion choices and the mounting fouls, the Westbrook era in these playoffs is effectively over as far as the show is concerned.

Void
Apr 25, 2018
#9651
Big CatBig Cat

I'm officially canceling Russell Westbrook

I've canceled Russell Westbrook. He's canceled. He's done. I, white girl, can't even with him anymore. Dude, you know how lame you have to be to get owned by Mitt Romney? I mean, and Mitt Romney owned him. He showed him how many fouls he had.

Subjective 'canceling' for comedic effect, but reflects a peak period of Westbrook-criticism in the media.
Win
Apr 25, 2018
#9652
Big CatBig Cat

The Thunder are trash and are not legitimate competitors

I'm done with anyone talking about the Thunder. I said this pre-playoffs. I called this. I said they are trash, and I do not want to hear about the Thunder being any kind of, like, even close to a competitor.

The Thunder lost in the first round (4-2) to the Utah Jazz shortly after this episode.

The Capitals Psychology Experiment

PFT is entering a dangerous psychological state regarding the Washington Capitals. As they prepare to face the Penguins yet again, he’s convinced himself that being a slightly worse team than last year is actually a tactical advantage. It's the kind of logic only a tortured D.C. sports fan could conjure up.

Win
Apr 25, 2018
#9653
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals are better this year because they are actually worse than last year

The Washington Capitals, they are better this year because they're actually worse than they were last year, okay? ... The fact that the Capitals are not as good, they're not as deep... It means that they're winning ugly is what I'm getting at. ... we've tried being by far the best team talent-wise. That hasn't worked. So let's give it a shot being a little bit shittier than them.

Incredibly, the 2018 Capitals finally beat the Penguins and won their first Stanley Cup this season, proving PFT's bizarre logic correct in outcome.

Meanwhile, Gary Bettman continues to prove why he’s the master of scheduling games specifically when no one can watch them, putting Game 1 of Caps-Pens directly against the first round of the NFL Draft.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gary Bettman is an expert at drawing attention to every product except for the NHL

Gary [Bettman] is at it again. He scheduled the second round playoff game between the Penguins and the Capitals for Thursday night, right up against the NFL draft. ... He knows how to draw attention to any product but his own.

A subjective criticism of NHL scheduling practices.

Draft Talk with Ross Tucker

Friend of the program Ross Tucker joined the show to help make sense of a top-heavy quarterback class. Ross is always great for cutting through the noise, specifically when it comes to the red flags surrounding Josh Rosen. While everyone on Twitter is arguing about Rosen's personality, Ross is looking at the medical reports.

Win
Apr 25, 2018
#9654
Ross TuckerRoss Tucker

Josh Rosen's concussion history is a major red flag for NFL teams

My biggest concern with Josh Rosen is – He had two concussions last year where he missed games, right? ... What we know about brain injuries now— If that guy, after he gets drafted third by the Jets, let's say, and it's $30 million guaranteed ... if he gets a concussion in September... I would be – there's a big risk there.

While Rosen's career was derailed by poor situations and talent, his concussion history remained a frequent talking point among scouts throughout his draft process.

Ross also gave us his pure, unadulterated offensive lineman perspective on the draft, which involves watching tape of Notre Dame's Quentin Nelson before bed.

Win
Apr 25, 2018
#9655
Ross TuckerRoss Tucker

Quentin Nelson is the best player in the 2018 NFL Draft

I think the best player in the draft is Quentin Nelson, but I'm a biased O-line lover. ... He's a guy at night before I go to bed, I might put on some Quentin Nelson highlights just to watch him.

Quentin Nelson became an immediate All-Pro and is widely considered one of the best draft picks of that era.
Win
Apr 25, 2018
#9656
Ross TuckerRoss Tucker

Josh Rosen will fall further in the draft than people think

I'm going to go with Rosen to fall. Really? I think Darnold goes one. I think maybe some Barkley or a quarterback at two. I think Mayfield at three. I think [Rosen] ends up falling faster than people think.

Rosen fell to #10 (Arizona Cardinals) while other QBs like Mayfield (#1), Darnold (#3), and Allen (#7) went before him.

Inside the QB Guru's Mind

Jordan Palmer, the self-described "Quarterback Ninja," gave us the inside scoop on training the top prospects. He's been living with Sam Darnold and Josh Allen for months and revealed that the two potential top-five picks spend a staggering amount of time discussing *The Bachelor* and quoting the movie *Hot Rod*.

Win
Apr 25, 2018
#28950
Jordan PalmerJordan Palmer

Sam Darnold and Josh Allen are best friends who spend most of their time quoting 'Hot Rod' and discussing 'The Bachelor'

These guys [Sam Darnold and Josh Allen], they've become best friends. ... I would say like 50% of their conversations involve a line from Hot Rod. 25% involve conversation around what happened on Monday on The Bachelor.

The friendship between Allen and Darnold became a well-known story in the following years.

Jordan also broke down why mobility is no longer a luxury in the NFL, but a necessity, mostly because of how the league has changed the way teams are allowed to practice.

Void
Apr 25, 2018
#9658
Jordan PalmerJordan Palmer

NFL offensive line play is getting worse every year

I wouldn't take a quarterback moving forward that couldn't [extend the play] because O-line play is starting to deteriorate. All these colleges, they get less time with the guys. NFL, the new CBA, they get less time with the guys. And the O-line play in the league as a whole is getting worse and worse every year.

This is a widely debated but common sentiment among NFL analysts and former players due to reduced practice time in the post-2011 CBA.
Loss
Apr 25, 2018
#9659
Big CatBig Cat

The Cleveland Browns will draft Sam Darnold with the first pick

I think the Browns are going to take Sam Darnold. I think so, too. And I think it's going to be the biggest mistake of their life. I think it's going to haunt them for the next 12 months.

The Browns surprised many by drafting Baker Mayfield #1 overall; Darnold went #3 to the Jets.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Manalytics

Hot Seat is New York sports radio because the Pope, Mike Francesa, is officially returning to the airwaves. It’s a legendary power move to retire, watch your successors struggle, and then come back as the savior.

We wrapped up with a rare moment of agreement with Colin Cowherd. While "Manalytics" is a ridiculous word, the core concept that regular-season stats don't matter once the playoff intensity ramps up is something Big Cat and PFT can actually get behind.

Void
Apr 25, 2018
#9661
Big CatBig Cat

Colin Cowherd's theory of Manalytics is actually real

The theory behind it that the regular season doesn't matter and the playoffs get a lot harder and your flashy PER and how you score at such an insane pace in the middle of December, that doesn't matter in the playoffs. ... It sucks that we can't mock manalytics because it actually makes sense. ... manalytics are real.

While 'Manalytics' is a parody-worthy term, the concept of playoff intensity differing from the regular season is widely accepted in sports.

Make sure to work on your fingertip speed before Thursday night.

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More Takes

Win
Apr 25, 2018
#28949
Big CatBig Cat

Paxton Lynch is a first-round bust who will only play a handful of games in the NFL

Paxton Lynch is a first-round draft pick that plays like three games in the NFL. ... I called that one because I watched that one game where he threw five interceptions in the bowl game... he fucking sucked.

Lynch started only 4 games for the Broncos and is universally considered one of the biggest QB busts in recent history.
Push
Apr 25, 2018
#28947
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Houston Rockets are too mentally weak to win the Western Conference

The Rockets almost have me questioning my original take of them being too mentally weak to win it in the West. I think that they... We'll talk about it later.

The Rockets won 65 games and pushed the Warriors to 7 games in the WCF, but they ultimately failed to win the West or the title, reinforcing the 'mental weakness' narrative for some critics.
Win
Apr 25, 2018
#28948
Ross TuckerRoss Tucker

D.J. Moore is the best wide receiver in the 2018 NFL Draft

[The best wide receiver in this draft is] D.J. Moore from Maryland.

Moore was the first WR taken and has statistically been the most consistent and productive receiver of the class.
Loss
Apr 25, 2018
#9657
Big CatBig Cat

Derrius Guice is the best running back in the 2018 NFL Draft

I have a hot take for you. I think the best running back in the draft is [Derrius] Guice. ... Two years ago, I thought Guice was going to be the better NFL prospect than Leonard Fournette, and Fournette had a great rookie season. I still think Guice is going to be better than him.

Guice was a massive disappointment due to off-field issues and injuries, whereas Saquon Barkley became an elite NFL star.
Loss
Apr 25, 2018
#28953
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Derrius Guice will have a better NFL career than Leonard Fournette

Two years ago, I thought [Derrius] Geis was going to be the better NFL prospect than Leonard Fournette, and Fournette had a great rookie season. I still think Geis is going to be better than him.

Guice's career was derailed by injuries and legal issues before it began, while Fournette was a productive starter for several years and won a Super Bowl.
Void
Apr 25, 2018
#28951
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you aren't good at your job, you should hang out around the office as much as possible to become the 'glue' that they can't fire

That's rule number one just in general if you're not that good at your job is you just hang out around the office a lot. And then people are like, 'Oh, well, we can't fire this guy. The workplace would be so different without him.' ... He's the glue.

This is a subjective career philosophy delivered as a joke.
Void
Apr 25, 2018
#9660
Big CatBig Cat

John Elway falls in love with any quarterback he sees in person

I think John Elway's problem is that he just loves every quarterback. As a former quarterback, he will love you if he sees you, where if you wear a football, if you throw a football in front of him, he's like, I'm in love with this guy. He's awesome.

Elway's difficulty finding a franchise QB post-Manning is well-documented in NFL history.

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