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NFL Network's Steve Smith Sr., Billy Football, Rodgers Tears His Achilles + College Football Talk

Wednesday, September 13, 202320 takes

Aaron Rodgers season is over. We talk about the wild Monday Night Football game and how the Jets have somehow found a way to be more Jets. Josh Allen played bad and announcers need to stop saying asterisks on wins (-). College Football recap, Texas is back, the PAC 12 is finally really good, Mel Tucker and more (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Lebron saving Team USA, Trump setting up a feats of strength and Shannon Sharpe misses Skip Bayless (-). Steve Smith Sr. joins the show to talk about his career, being a dog, what teams he likes this year and a bet is made (-). Billy Football joins the show to talk us through Monday Night Football and the return of Patrick Mahomes Jr (-). We finish with Jimbos (-).

Steve Smith Sr. and Billy Football on the Jets' Nightmare and Texas Being Back

The vibes in the New York area are at an all-time low after Aaron Rodgers lasted exactly four snaps in a Jets uniform. Big Cat and PFT opened the show trying to process the absolute insanity of Monday Night Football. While Big Cat has spent over a decade hating on Rodgers in the NFC North, even he had to admit that watching the Jets' savior go down before completing a single pass was a level of scripted tragedy only this franchise could achieve.

Win
Sep 13, 2023
#11319
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The unluckiness of the New York Jets is unrivaled in professional sports

The power of the unluckiness of the New York Jets is unrivaled in professional sports. I feel bad for Mike Greenberg... but if I'm in the trust tree, it was also kind of funny... that they had six months where it's like we finally solved our quarterback situation... and then four plays in, it's like, well, we're fucked again.

The Jets losing Rodgers after 4 snaps following a massive offseason hype cycle is historically bad luck.

PFT pointed out the sheer ridiculousness of the situation, especially with the Jets actually winning the game thanks to a punt return touchdown. However, the guys have no time for the talking heads trying to put qualifiers on the victory.

Void
Sep 13, 2023
#11322
Big CatBig Cat

Announcers need to stop saying 'asterisk' on wins

I don't know why it's become a thing that announcers are now saying asterisk. They did it for the Lions game too. Tarico did the asterisk for No Kelsey, Chris Jones. And then last night they're like, well, asterisk there was tripping on the part return. Who the fuck cares. The Wind's a win.

This is a subjective opinion on broadcasting style, though factually true that announcers like Mike Tirico used the word.

Speaking of the Jets, the search for a replacement is already hitting the desperation stage. While names like Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan are being floated, the guys aren't exactly sold on the available veteran market, especially given the state of the offensive line.

Win
Sep 13, 2023
#22934
Big CatBig Cat

Matt Ryan would be worse than Zach Wilson behind the Jets' offensive line

I don't know if Matt Ryan would be worse than Zach Wilson... I think he would just because their offensive line is a big question mark. And you're putting Matt Ryan back into harm's way. He can't move.

Matt Ryan was effectively finished as a starter after his 2022 season with the Colts, and the 2023 Jets offensive line was famously poor.

The fallout of the game also led to some Josh Allen slander after a four-turnover performance. Despite the disastrous night, PFT is still standing by his guy when compared to other NFC East quarterbacks who had much easier Week 1 assignments.

Void
Sep 13, 2023
#11324
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Josh Allen is still a much better quarterback than Dak Prescott

As far as I'm concerned, Josh Allen's still much better quarterback than Dak Prescott. Dak had a better week one. Yes... but you saw something different [last night].

This remains a debated topic, though Allen generally ranks higher in elite QB discussions despite the turnover issues.

College Football saw a massive shift in the landscape over the weekend. The PAC-12 is currently looking like the best conference in America, which is peak irony considering the conference is essentially on its deathbed.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The PAC-12 is currently the most dominant conference in the country

The lead story right now is the PAC 12 is the most dominant conference in the country. They have eight teams in the top 25 right now... It's insane to me that the PAC 12 has been around for a hundred years and they just timed it two years too late.

The Pac-12 had a historic final season, sending Washington to the National Championship, though the conference did indeed dissolve.

The biggest story, though, was in Tuscaloosa. Texas didn't just beat Alabama; they looked like the more physical, more talented team from start to finish. Big Cat was there in person and saw the shift in power firsthand, noting that Nick Saban's squad looked uncharacteristically human.

Win
Sep 13, 2023
#22935
Big CatBig Cat

Texas's victory over Alabama was not a fluke; the Longhorns were simply the superior team

This officially Texas being back because like it didn't feel like the memes... they just went into Alabama and whooped their ass. It wasn't some fluke thing... I think Texas is just a very good team... Alabama was just the inferior team on the field on Saturday.

Texas finished the regular season as Big 12 champions and earned a CFP berth, proving their status as a top-tier team.
Loss
Sep 13, 2023
#11329
Big CatBig Cat

This version of Alabama is not good enough to be a CFP contender

This version of Alabama is not good or not good enough to be a college football [contender]... Saban is the greatest college coach of all time, and he does adapt better than any college coach. But he has to adapt again.

Alabama finished 12-1, beat #1 Georgia in the SEC Championship, and was selected for the College Football Playoff.

Future Hall of Famer Steve Smith Sr. joined the show to talk about what it means to be a "dog" at the wide receiver position. He broke down the nuances of route running that casual fans miss, like how a veteran receiver has to tempo their routes when the "marathon speed" starts to fade with age. He also gave some love to the current crop of talent, specifically noting a certain Seahawk and a Jaguars comeback story.

Push
Sep 13, 2023
#11336
Steve Smith Sr.Steve Smith Sr.

The Seahawks' secondary is extremely dangerous and overlooked

Seattle Seahawks, if they can get a pass rush generated, I think they're gonna be pretty good. Their secondary is bananas, bro. I'm talking about Their secondary is very dangerous. Woolen is, he's not getting a lot of credit. But that young man... I think he's gonna lock down some receivers this year.

The Seahawks' secondary was solid but the team finished with a middle-of-the-pack pass defense in 2023 and missed the playoffs.
Push
Sep 13, 2023
#11339
Steve Smith Sr.Steve Smith Sr.

Calvin Ridley is on a mission and is going to 'ball' this year

Calvin Ridley is going ball. That's a man on a mission. And some corners are gonna have to deal with that man being on a mission.

Ridley had a solid season with 1,016 yards and 8 touchdowns, but it wasn't a dominant 'man on a mission' year that carried the Jaguars deep into the playoffs.

Before letting him go, Steve Smith Sr. got into a heated debate with Big Cat about the future of the Carolina Panthers. A bet was officially brokered: if the Panthers win more than four games, Steve gets some free gear; if they win four or fewer, he’s sending the guys some of his signature bent-brim hats.

Win
Sep 13, 2023
#22938
Big CatBig Cat

The Carolina Panthers will win four or fewer games this season

Panthers are gonna win three games... I'll give you four games for the Panthers. Panthers are gonna win four games... If the Panthers win four or less games, we want some Steve Smith signed hats.

The Panthers finished with a dismal 2-15 record, well under the 4-game threshold.
Loss
Sep 13, 2023
#11338
Steve Smith Sr.Steve Smith Sr.

The Carolina Panthers will win more than four games this year

They'll win more than four games... I think they could sneak in [to the playoffs]. I don't think it's a fluke. If the Panthers win more than four games, whatever little promo you did, I want some joggers.

The Panthers finished with the worst record in the NFL at 2-15.

To wrap up the Jets talk, the guys brought in a true white whale: Billy Football. Billy was in full-blown delusion mode, trying to convince himself that Zach Wilson is ready for the spotlight. He even floated a theory that the only way to save the season involves a certain retired legend with family ties to the New York area.

Loss
Sep 13, 2023
#22939
Billy FootballBilly Football

Tom Brady joining the Jets this season is a real possibility

Someone who has a lot of family based here coming out of retirement... Tom Brady. I mean, it could happen. It's the craziest thought. It really isn't. That's the only one. His kids are here. He has a place. That's the only person where it's like, yeah, let's take a chance on that.

Tom Brady remained retired and did not join the Jets or any other NFL team.

It’s a long season, and if we’ve learned anything, it’s that the Jets will always find a way to make it interesting, for better or (usually) worse.

At least we still have the Utah gremlins to keep us entertained on Saturday nights.

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More Takes

Win
Sep 13, 2023
#22933
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Colin Kaepernick would suck if he returned to the NFL now because he hasn't played in seven years

[Kaepernick], he hasn't played in what, six years? Seven years. So he's gonna come back and he's gonna suck ass because he hasn't played football in forever... if you love Colin Kaepernick, if you think he got jobbed by the NFL, you should actually be hoping and praying that he does not get a chance to play anymore.

Kaepernick has not played professional football since 2016 and is well past his physical prime.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Texas will make the College Football Playoff this year

I think Texas is gonna be in the college football playoff this year. I sprinkled a little future on them winning the title this year. I think they're gonna make the playoff.

Texas did make the College Football Playoff in 2023.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Iowa will have an offensive explosion and hit the over against Western Michigan

I'm gonna take whatever the Iowa team total is. Bet the over on it. Because Ferentz is gonna keep his guys in. He knows in the back of his head, if it's late in the third quarter... they need to score some more points.

Iowa beat Western Michigan 41-10, easily hitting the over and providing the offensive explosion PFT predicted.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will eventually find an excuse to not play for Team USA in the 2024 Olympics

This is just an ultimate future me problem. [LeBron] is making a promise just to make the promise. It's like Scott's Tots. And then next year he's gonna come around. He's gonna be like, yeah, but I just got done playing like full NBA season. We went to the playoffs maybe into the second round. Do I really have to play?

LeBron James did follow through on his commitment, playing for Team USA and winning a gold medal at the 2024 Paris Olympics.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Taylor Swift fans (Swifties) are much more dangerous than Chiefs fans

Taylor Swift fans are fucking insane. And this is coming from a guy who had his most recent superfan go to prison for 30 years for bank robberies. Swifties are way more dangerous than Chiefs [fans].

This is a subjective comparison of fan culture intensity.
Open
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Baron Trump will eventually be the first overall pick in the NBA Draft

How awesome would that be if Baron Trump was the first overall pick in the NBA Draft. We were right. It was gonna happen.

Baron Trump has not entered the NBA draft and is currently pursuing a college education.
Loss
Sep 13, 2023
#11341
Billy FootballBilly Football

Zach Wilson's ceiling is literally Patrick Mahomes

Come on, Zach Wilson, his ceiling is literally Patrick Mahomes. That's a fact. If he plays to the best of his ability.

Zach Wilson was benched later that season and eventually traded, proving his ceiling is nowhere near Mahomes.
Void
Sep 13, 2023
#11343
Billy FootballBilly Football

Al-Qaeda is the only one who could have written the Monday Night Football script

Running out with the flag... hard knocks... there was so much hope and hype. And, you know, talking about the NFL script, the only one who could have written that script is Al-Qaeda.

This is a satirical dark humor comment, not a factual claim.

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