Andrew Whitworth on Retirement, the Turf War, and Chiefaholic
The Monday Night Football matchup between the Packers and the Rams didn't exactly deliver the star-studded fireworks we expected when the schedule dropped, but it gave Big Cat and PFT plenty of material to pick apart. While Matt LaFleur finally discovered he's allowed to go for it on fourth down, the real story in Green Bay is whether Aaron Rodgers can actually lead this team into the postseason. PFT isn't buying the hype for a second.
The Packers are not going to run the table and make the playoffs
I promise you. I promise They've got a really tough schedule. Yeah, they, they've got the Dolphins. They've got the Lions... I'm just, this guy's [Rodgers] never, yeah, Hank just, Hank just looked up. He's like, Ooh, they could win all those guys. Nah.
With the Jets and Jaguars set for a massive Thursday night clash, the conversation shifted to a franchise quarterback draft. Big Cat is high on Trevor Lawrence's growth as a pure passer, but PFT remains a card-carrying member of the Justin Fields Fan Club, valuing the dual-threat upside and the potential for passing improvement.
I would draft Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence to start a franchise today.
I actually do disagree with you [Big Cat] though. I would take Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence. Because I think that you can get better as a passer in the NFL. We've seen a couple guys do it and weapons around him. It's possible if you have good coaching around you, you've got good weapons, you can improve. ... I would rather have Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence.
Naturally, the Jalen Hurts injury news sent shockwaves through the studio. Max has officially completed his 24-hour residency in shoulder medicine to assure everyone that the Eagles' star is fine. While some are blaming Hurts' style of play for the injury, Max is doubling down on the very thing that makes him an MVP candidate.
Jalen Hurts is elite because of his running ability, and people shouldn't complain when he gets hurt doing it.
I'm sick of people online getting all pissed off that Jalen Hurts runs that. Because that's the number one thing is that, oh, this is what happens when you have running quarterback. They're just gonna get hurt. ... That's what makes Jalen Hurts good. Jalen Hurts is good because he can throw the ball and because he can run. And if you don't run then you don't get the good parts with Jalen Hurts.
The Legend of Chiefaholic
Hot Seat/Cool Throne featured one of the most electric stories of the season. Chiefs super-fan Chiefaholic, known for attending every road game in a full wolf suit, went missing during the Houston game. It turns out he was busy being detained in Oklahoma for allegedly robbing a bank. PFT is taking a stand on the field until the wolf is free.
I am fading the Chiefs until Chiefaholic is released from prison.
Chief's Twitter went into a panic trying to find out where Chiefaholic was. ... stopped in Bixby, Oklahoma real quick as one does, robbed the bank, got caught, and now he's in, I believe federal prison awaiting sentencing. ... I plan on fading the chiefs until they release Chiefaholic from prison.
On the Cool Throne side, the guys looked ahead to the Masters and the potential for Charlie Woods to continue the family legacy. Big Cat isn't just saying Charlie belongs in the field; he's saying the kid could take home the green jacket today if the gates were open.
Charlie Woods could win the Masters right now if they let him in
Charlie Woods could win the Masters right now if you wanted to. Is there a way that if they let him in, he could win it? ... Charlie Woods is gonna be the greatest. He's next up. We've always said that on this podcast. He is now he's him.
Andrew Whitworth in Studio
Fresh off a Super Bowl ring and a smooth transition to the Amazon Prime booth, Andrew Whitworth stopped by to discuss his first year of retirement. It’s the greatest retirement timing in NFL history, walking away at the peak while the Rams’ offensive line transformed into a revolving door of injuries. Whitworth offered some veteran perspective on the Detroit Lions' unsung heroes up front.
The Detroit Lions' offensive line is one of the best in the NFL and doesn't get enough credit
The Lions group, I mean Yeah. You know, people keep talking about, you know, Jared Goff's playing his best and the weapons they have offensively... but you also just played a Jets defense that's been getting after people and they didn't touch Jared. I mean, no Sacks, you know, barely hit him at all. That group doesn't get talked about enough, in my opinion, just because of the team's record.
As a legendary offensive lineman, Whitworth was refreshingly honest about the dark arts of the trenches. He didn't shy away from the fact that being a great blocker often means being a world-class cheater when the refs aren't looking.
Every offensive lineman's job is to be a world-class holder
If you're an offensive lineman, you gotta become a world-class holder. Yeah. That's your job. Yeah, right. We're basically really high paid bouncers. That's, that's literally all we are. You're, you're figure out how to hold people.
One of the biggest talking points for players this season has been the surface they play on. Whitworth confirmed what we all suspected: the data might say one thing, but the human body says another. The difference in recovery time between grass and turf isn't just a minor preference; it's a matter of surviving the season.
NFL players wake up feeling significantly better playing on grass versus turf
When I play on grass, there is a drastic difference really how I wake up the next day. Like just my body in general, like how I can work out, how I can train it. It's night and day different. ... The argument is I know that after I play a game on turf, I feel awful for three or four days. Your knees, your joints, your body, like, you just feel terrible.
One Question and Sink Pissing
Chad Henne joined the show for a quick 'One Question with a Quarterback,' sharing a classic Blake Bortles story involving golf, 15 beers, and a complete lack of sympathy for a teammate in distress. He also reminisced about the pure violence of Ryan Mallet’s arm during their days at Michigan.
Ryan Mallet's arm was so strong that it sounded like a 'shotgun' going off when he threw.
I remember the first day [Ryan Mallet] came in, I felt like I had a strong arm. He threw like a 10 yard out route, went right through the receiver's hands and like pelted the wall. Sounded like a shotgun went off. I was like, 'Geez, this kid's gonna be special.'
To wrap things up, Guys on Chicks took a turn for the hygienic when the debate over toilet paper orientation surfaced. However, everything else was overshadowed by Big Cat’s reveal of his late-night kitchen routine. After cleaning up the house and finishing the dishes, he views the sink as his own personal victory trough.
Pissing in the kitchen sink is a reward for doing the dishes
I would say I'm still, probably two times a week I piss in my sink. ... Kitchen? What? No, that's what I finished doing the dishes late at night. I, I actually think that this is, and then I just run the, run the water. ... It's a reward. It's a, it's whatever. I like it.
If you aren't rewarding yourself for domestic chores, you simply aren't living life to the fullest.

