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Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks

Wednesday, December 11, 202429 takes

Are the Bengals back or did they just play the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy has to stop looking up at the video board (-). AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts used to be friends but still are so it’s totally fine (-). We talk CFB playoff, Alabama complaining, Belichick to UNC (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jalen Brunson wanting Dick (Grady), and Juan Soto being dissed by the Yankees (-). Hall of Famer Steve Young joins the show to talk about QB’s making it through early struggles, the flight that changed his life, his relationship with Joe Montana, Coaching in the NFL and more (-). Arizona State Head Football Coach Kenny Dillingham joins the show to talk about getting to the CFP, winning the Big 12, PFT kicking for the Sun Devils, trying to play madden against BYU and tons more (-). We finish with guys on chicks (-).

Steve Young on QB Grit, Kenny Dillingham, and the Bengals' Pulse

The Bengals actually got a bounce to go their way on Monday Night Football, and Big Cat is officially trying to talk himself back into Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. While the Bengals' playoff odds are still lower than Hank's chances of ever winning the lottery ball, watching Mike McCarthy stare at the Jumbotron in a state of catatonic shock never gets old. PFT has some advice for the Cowboys head coach before he burns his retinas looking at Leon Lett-style blunders.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3786
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike McCarthy needs to stop watching replays of his team's mistakes on the Jumbotron during games

I have a suggestion from Mike McCarthy... Something bad happens, you know, something bad has just happened in the game. As head coach, he forces himself to watch the replay of that bad thing over and over and just sit in that pain. Yeah, Mike, you gotta stop doing that. You gotta stop subjecting yourself to just trauma repeatedly over and over again.

This is a subjective observation of coaching behavior.

Speaking of visuals, the guys gave their thoughts on the Simpsons alternate broadcast. While seeing Homer as Cooper Rush and Bart as Jamar Chase was a fun concept, the execution left a little to be desired in the third dimension.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3787
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Simpsons characters are significantly better in 2D than 3D

I did watch the first half of The Simpsons broadcast last night, and I don't know why it took me so long to remember this. The Simpsons are a million times better in 2D. The Simpsons in 3D. Not that fun.

Artistic preference is subjective.

Philly Chaos and the CFP Bracket

There is some massive drama brewing in Philadelphia with Brandon Graham essentially suggesting Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown are just coworkers now. While the media is trying to turn it into a civil war, Big Cat sees the silver lining in Philly fans already calling for Jackson Dart or Jalen Milroe despite being 11-2.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3789
Big CatBig Cat

The extreme delusional negativity of Philly fans is a sign the Eagles are ready for a Super Bowl run

I saw this video and I was like, this could not sum up the Philadelphia Eagles fan base more and I wouldn't have it any other way... I actually think that this might be a sign that the Eagles are ready to go on a Super Bowl run because they're what, 11 and two and they've won nine games in a row. Everything's going well. They now have players talking about players. Old players talking about old players.

This is a subjective take on team chemistry and fan psychology.

Max is already looking ahead to Sunday, and he isn't worried about the locker room vibes because he knows the ball is going to find the best playmaker on the roster.

Loss
Dec 11, 2024
#3790
MaxMax

AJ Brown will definitely score a touchdown this week to disprove the drama rumors

AJ Brown has to be in the touchdown score this week... You know that they're gonna find a way to feed him the ball.

AJ Brown did not score a touchdown in the week following this episode (Week 15 vs Commanders).

Transitioning to college football, the bracket is officially set and Big Cat is already finding reasons to be annoyed with the layout. He thinks the committee should have just leaned into the chaos and started the tournament immediately instead of worrying about conference title games that reward teams for losing.

Loss
Dec 11, 2024
#29741
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Commanders need nine wins to feel safe for the playoffs and will likely finish with eight

I think three [wins needed to feel safe]... I think [the Commanders] get two wins. I think three. But I think you'll be okay with two.

The Commanders lost their final four games of the 2024 season, finishing 7-10 and missing the playoffs entirely.

Steve Young on QB Evolution

Hall of Famer Steve Young joined the show for an incredible interview that covered everything from his awkward relationship with Joe Montana to his life-changing encounter with Steve Covey on a Delta flight. Young broke down why the modern game is so much easier for quarterbacks than his era, and why Aaron Rodgers specifically should be putting up even bigger numbers.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The speed of Google's new quantum chip suggests we are likely living in a computer simulation

Google says that one of the world's current fastest supercomputers would take 10 septillion years to complete that same challenge that Google's chip did in less than five minutes... it actually lends credence to the, the theory that we are living in one of an infinite number of computer simulations right now.

Simulation theory is untestable.

He also gave a fascinating defense of Sam Darnold, arguing that the Vikings would be making a massive mistake to move on from him regardless of who they have waiting in the wings.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3799
Steve YoungSteve Young

Aaron Rodgers should be dominating the league more because he learned in a more sophisticated era

The job that [Aaron Rodgers] had 15 years ago is so much harder than it is today. Today's game, as Tom Brady describes, the flats are open, the, the middle of the field's unpatrolled and no one can hit me... anyone that's hung around long enough to know in a sophisticated time should be dominating.

This is an expert evaluation of the evolution of the QB position.

The most controversial part of the interview came when Young discussed player safety. Despite being one of the best scramblers of all time, he thinks the modern slide is actually a death trap that leaves quarterbacks more vulnerable than if they just took the hit.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Karl-Anthony Towns might actually be 'built like that' for the pressure of New York

Also Karl-Anthony Towns. He might be the perfect fit for New York. He had a big shot. He was repping it. Yeah. And the Knicks had been hot. Like Karl-Anthony Towns might be built like that.

Karl-Anthony Towns thrived under the pressure of New York basketball. The Knicks reached the Eastern Conference Finals, and Towns was a crucial part of their playoff success, proving he was indeed 'built like that.'

Coach Kenny Dillingham and PFT's Kicking Career

ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham stopped by to celebrate the Sun Devils winning the Big 12 and securing a first-round bye. Dillingham is a breath of fresh air in a sport filled with coaches who complain about the transfer portal, and he explained why he actually supports his players even when they decide to leave Tempe.

Win
Dec 11, 2024
#3801
Steve YoungSteve Young

Jerry Rice's records are untouchable because he was driven by a constant fear of losing his job

Jerry Rice was driven by the same thing until he, the day he retired, he thought someone was gonna take his job. And so he, he lived in a state of... anxiety that, that I need to go to work... Jerry Rice, even today when the game is wide open, Jerry Rice is, all his records should be under duress. Right. They should be being lapped in today's game. And you can't get close to him.

Jerry Rice's career records (receptions, yards, TDs) remain standing by massive margins in 2024.

He also broke down the chaotic finish against BYU, explaining that while the fans thought Cam Skattebo was playing like a madman, it was actually a savvy football play.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3800
Steve YoungSteve Young

Sliding is dangerous for quarterbacks and should be removed from the game

Sliding the game, look, the game changed when they change the rules... it puts your head on a pedestal right at the level of people's knees. And, and, and, and, like you basically are saying and, and, and by sliding you're opening yourself up. Right? It's like, oh, hit me in the face... I think sliding to make it safe for quarterbacks is impossible. So get rid of it.

This is a safety and rules proposal from a former player.

Naturally, the conversation turned to PFT's eligibility and his dream of kicking for the Sun Devils. PFT reminded the coach that he has some professional experience under his belt if the team needs a veteran presence in the kicking room.

Void
Dec 11, 2024
#29744
Steve YoungSteve Young

Caleb Williams has it, but he needs to learn to 'get out and make plays' instead of waiting for the pocket

I see it in Caleb [Williams]... but you gotta get into a spot where you can get some help. What I didn't like about Caleb's game yesterday is in the first half... get out, man. And start like make plays. Like we're not going down this way.

This is a subjective evaluation of a player's development.

Whether it’s PFT hitting 35-yarders in Tempe or Steve Young dropping knowledge on Jerry Rice's work ethic, this episode was a reminder that football is simply the best.

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Win
Dec 11, 2024
#3788
Big CatBig Cat

The 'In the Hunt' graphics for the NFC are currently patronizing to bad teams

Everyone from the Saints on down, Saints, Cowboys, Bears, Panthers. Just just be like, Hey, I know technically not [eliminated], but dude, get a fucking grip. You're brain dead if you're actually thinking this.

The teams mentioned (Saints, Cowboys, Bears, Panthers) all eventually missed the playoffs in the 2024 season.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

I would vote for Ashton Jeanty to win the Heisman Trophy

If I had a vote today after the votes were in, I'd probably vote [Ashton Jeanty].

Travis Hunter won the 2024 Heisman Trophy, making this vote 'incorrect' in terms of backing the winner.
Void
Dec 11, 2024·Picks
#3791
Big CatBig Cat

College football should get rid of conference championships and just start the 16-team playoff that weekend

Get rid of the conference championships. If you're gonna do it this way, get rid of the conference championships and just have the playoffs start that weekend. Yeah. Like, have it be the first weekend of December, have it be 16 teams or whatever it is.

This is a structural proposal for the future of the sport.
Void
Dec 11, 2024·Picks
#3792
Big CatBig Cat

The top four teams in the CFP should always get a bye, regardless of whether they won their conference

Top four teams should get a bye. Because as it stands right now, and I Boise's good, I think Boise could beat anyone... But it just, it's, when I look at the bracket, the thing that keeps sticking out is like Oregon had by far and away the best season in college football... And their matchup potentially is gonna be Ohio State or Tennessee in the first round. Which that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

This is a critique of a specific rule set.
Loss
Dec 11, 2024·Picks
#3793
Big CatBig Cat

Bill Belichick will be successful at UNC by marketing it as an 'NFL factory'

I think that if you are matter of fact, he's gonna be the closer. If you're a matter of fact to these both transfer kids and like, I think he'll crush it in the transfer portal because if he just says, Hey, I'm not gonna try to sell you on, like, this idea that we're gonna, we're competing for national titles right away, or we're do, I'm gonna get you ready to play football at the National Football League level and there's no one better that knows that than me.

Bill Belichick was not successful at UNC in his first year. The Tar Heels went 4-8, failing to make a bowl game. His 'NFL factory' pitch did not translate to wins.
Void
Dec 11, 2024·Picks
#3794
HankHank

Nepotism in football coaching is more acceptable than in playing because you work up through ranks

Coaching is a lot different than playing... Football is like the most, basketball is different. There's not a lot of examples of nepotism drafts. There's a million examples of nepotism coaching... He [Steve Belichick] worked his way up the ranks as any head coach that's ever head coached in the history of coaching has.

The ethics of nepotism in professional sports is a subjective debate.
Loss
Dec 11, 2024·Picks
#3795
HankHank

Arizona State will win the College Football Playoff because they are the hottest team

You know what I'm taking Arizona State. Fuck it... I want, I don't think it works for college football, but it, if it was hockey or college basketball, they're the hottest team. Make a run.

Arizona State lost to Texas 39-31 in the Peach Bowl (CFP quarterfinal) on January 1, 2025. They did not win the College Football Playoff.
Win
HankHank

The Yankees lost Juan Soto because they were disrespectful regarding family suites

The Yankees lost out on a generational talent just because they were disrespectful... The Yankees wouldn't budge on giving Juan Soto a suite in Yankee Stadium saying that if they don't do it for Derek Jeter, they're not gonna do it for him.

While Soto signed with the Mets for a record contract, the 'suite' issue was widely reported as a point of friction during his Yankees tenure.
Loss
Dec 11, 2024
#29742
Steve YoungSteve Young

It is absolutely possible for the 49ers to 'clap back' and make a playoff run

I think this is a group of people that have proven some real resilience. I mean, this is some, some hearty folks... so I would say to your question, can they clap back and make something happen? They're under duress. They gotta win... and so yeah, it's absolutely possible. It's possible. Hard but possible.

The 49ers collapsed late in the 2024 season, failing to make the playoffs.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#29743
Steve YoungSteve Young

If I had joined the Broncos in 2000, I probably would have won another Super Bowl with Mike Shanahan

Mike [Shanahan] was all in. He was all in. And I just, I don't know... I should have jumped in. I I would've played 2000 to maybe two or three years... [Do you think you would have won another Super Bowl?] Why not? Let's go. I mean if history was anything like what we had before, it was good stuff.

This is a hypothetical 'what if' that cannot be proven.
Loss
Dec 11, 2024
#3802
Steve YoungSteve Young

The Vikings would be insane to let Sam Darnold leave even with JJ McCarthy returning

You're insane to not sign a guy that's doing that for you... If I was Sam, I am not going back to one of those places that doesn't take care of and doesn't understand the quarterback position. I refuse. So I will go compete to go to one of those places that does. Yeah.

The Vikings let Sam Darnold leave in free agency. He signed with the Seahawks for $100.5M. Despite Steve Young saying they'd be 'insane' to let him go, the Vikings chose to go with JJ McCarthy and let Darnold walk.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3803
Steve YoungSteve Young

Apathy and losing in the NFL is almost always an ownership accountability problem

I blame ownership. And unfortunately in this league you can't because it, equity ownership's not gonna change... you can't overcome apathy... how do we help ownership be accountable? Yeah. Because it would make the team, if they could feel that accountability and answer to it, it would help the team.

This is a structural critique of professional sports ownership.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3804
Kenny DillinghamKenny Dillingham

Cam Skattebo's chaotic throwaway against BYU was actually a high-IQ play

He's so intelligent. He said, whoa, I'm outta the pocket. I can throw the ball away. So he made a decision in a split second. Instead of losing 20 yards, I wanna throw the ball away. And I knew like as it was going, I'm like, this dude's gonna throw the ball away... he's such, so, such an aware player.

This is a coach's evaluation of his player's intent.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3805
Kenny DillinghamKenny Dillingham

Coaches shouldn't be hypocritical by getting angry at players for using the transfer portal

Why would I be mad at a kid for wanting to be, do what's best for him? Coaches do it all the time. I've moved around, assistant coaches move around. What a double standard that would be for me if I don't support the players and their career aspirations. Like I support coaches and like I did in my career.

This is a philosophical stance on the state of college athletics.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#29745
Kenny DillinghamKenny Dillingham

Bo Nix has enough 'dog' in him that he actually makes people uncomfortable

Bo has always been competitive and special and accurate and has moxie and intelligent. Like he's the dude that has enough dog in him that some, it makes some people uncomfortable.

Subjective opinion on a player's personality and competitive drive.
Win
Dec 11, 2024
#29746
Kenny DillinghamKenny Dillingham

The 'Mesh Tailback Wheel' is unstoppable in real life and video games, but 'Shark Wheel' is a pure cheat code that doesn't work in reality

Shark Wheel is probably the biggest cheat code in the video game ever created. Yes. It does not work in real life... you know what does work in real life and in the video game is mesh two by two. Yeah. Mesh with the tailback wheel. Yep. That plays, that play's still unstoppable. Video games, real life.

As an elite OC, Dillingham is making a technical claim about offensive efficiency that is generally accepted in modern football strategy.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#3806
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I can still make a 35-yard field goal consistently

I did try out for the XFL when three for five from 37 yards... I can still make a 35 yard field goal consistently. I think I haven't kicked in like a year. But you, you give me like three months to get into shape and to start working on it. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be lights out from 40 in.

This is a personal athletic claim by PFT Commenter that cannot be verified with public information.
Void
Dec 11, 2024
#29747
Kenny DillinghamKenny Dillingham

If I beat a recruit in ping pong and they don't want to play again, I don't want them in my program

I just wanna see somebody who's like, passionate about it... I want people that like, wanna be the very best and that are wired in a way that I don't care if they're playing Tiddlywinks, they wanna win... whether it's Spades, whether it's Chess, whether it's NCAA, I want people that it pisses 'em off to lose.

Subjective coaching philosophy.

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