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Wade Phillips, Jokic MVP, The Nets Are Unstoppable & Aaron Rodgers Holds Out

Wednesday, June 9, 202120 takes

Nikola Jokic wins MVP and we celebrate as a regular season Nuggets podcast. Also fat boys everywhere have a Champion ( - ). The Nets are absolutely unstoppable and the Suns crowd is the best ( - ). Hockey playoff talk as the Canadiens are unstoppable ( - ). Aaron Rodgers holds out and we wish him happiness ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Arch Manning and Lebron telling people to not count him out ( - ). Coach Wade Phillips joins the show to talk about his career in coaching, his best players, Wadeisms, and how his dad paid for him by illegally racing a quarter horse in Louisiana ( - 1). We finish the show with a couple segments and FAQ's

Wade Phillips on J.J. Watt, the Music City Miracle, and Jokic MVP

It is officially a 6/9 episode, and the stars have aligned because we are officially a regular season Nuggets podcast. Nikola Jokic just became the lowest drafted player to ever win the MVP, and the guys are celebrating the victory for fat boys everywhere. PFT is already looking toward the history books, noting that while the big man is a legend now, he might be a trick question for the casuals in a decade.

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Jun 9, 2021
#7347
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

In the future, the 2021 MVP will be a difficult trivia question

He's going to be a trivia question down the line. I'm telling the audience right now, there will come a time in your life when you are asked who the 2020-2021 MVP was. And you're going to need to remember this moment when I'm telling you that it's Jokic because it will win you money.

While Jokic is a superstar, historically, non-traditional big men who don't win titles immediately are often harder to recall in trivia than perennial winners.

The Suns are also provide an electric atmosphere in the desert, and Big Cat is fully embracing the energy. While some people hate on fans who show up late to the party, the guys think the influx of energy—led by America's mascot, Guy Fieri—is exactly what the playoffs need.

Void
Jun 9, 2021
#7348
Big CatBig Cat

I have no problem with bandwagon fans

I know we don't like bandwagon fans. Actually, I have no problem with bandwagon fans. I always thought it was so stupid to be like, more people are buying this stuff and the city is more electric. It's actually awesome. It's like movies. Everyone's getting pumped about it.

This is a purely subjective philosophy on sports culture.
Loss
Jun 9, 2021
#7349
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Guy Fieri should be America's mascot

[Guy Fieri] is everything that we thought the bald eagle would be. I just think if you're cheering against whatever team Guy Fieri's cheering for, then you're essentially rooting against Flavor. He's Drake's Wario. He's the good version of a bandwagon fan.

The US government has not yet replaced the bald eagle with Guy Fieri.

The Unstoppable Nets and the LeBron Slander

The conversation shifted to the Eastern Conference where the Brooklyn Nets are currently nuking the Milwaukee Bucks. Big Cat and PFT are starting to realize that the regular season didn't matter because this Nets team is a juggernaut. Even with James Harden sidelined, they look like they're playing a different sport, making Giannis look human in the process.

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Jun 9, 2021
#7352
Big CatBig Cat

The Nets are so much better than the Bucks that Giannis Antetokounmpo looks like a Robin at best

The hot takes now are... Giannis is no more than a 1B. He can't ascend to the next level... I tend to believe there's some truth in that, but it's more that the Nets are so much better than we're giving them credit for... he is really just a Robin at best.

The Bucks actually came back to win the series 4-3 and Giannis went on to win the Finals MVP, proving he was very much a 'Batman'.
Loss
Jun 9, 2021
#7358
Big CatBig Cat

The Brooklyn Nets will be considered one of the greatest teams of all time within a month

I feel like we're going to be, in a month, the conversation is going to be like, are the Nets one of the greatest teams of all time? If they keep playing the way they have in these first two games, they deserve it because it really is like they just fucking jump on you.

The Nets lost this series to the Bucks in 7 games and did not win the title, so this conversation never happened.

PFT even proposed a hypothetical to illustrate just how deep this roster is. If the Nets had to play a game where every starter was required to score the exact same amount of points, he still thinks they would clear almost the entire league.

Void
Jun 9, 2021
#7354
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Nets could beat almost any team if all five starters had to score the exact same amount of points

How many teams do you think that the Nets could beat in a seven-game series if... All five of their starters had to score the exact same amount of points... It's like everyone has to score exactly 14 points. [With Harden healthy], I think they could beat almost everyone.

This is a hypothetical scenario that cannot be tested.

Meanwhile, the Lakers are out, and LeBron James is back to his usual routine of posting cryptic Instagram workout clips and Gladiator quotes. Big Cat isn't buying the comeback narrative this time around.

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Big CatBig Cat

I am officially counting LeBron James out

So, well, let's just do a quick straw poll. Are you counting [LeBron] out? ... I want to count him out. Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to count him out.

LeBron continued to be an All-NBA player and won an In-Season Tournament title in 2023, though he hasn't reached the Finals since this take.

Coach Wade Phillips Joins the Show

One of the true legends of the game, Coach Wade Phillips, joined the program to talk about his 40-plus years in the NFL. Wade is a premier storyteller, recounting how his dad, Bum Phillips, literally paid for Wade's birth by illegally racing a ringer quarter horse in Louisiana. He also touched on the greatest players he ever coached, highlighting Reggie White’s insane productivity and J.J. Watt’s unique football IQ.

Win
Jun 9, 2021
#7370
Wade PhillipsWade Phillips

Reggie White's 21-sack season in 12 games is a record that will never be beaten

Reggie White... had the greatest year that I've ever coached in that he had 21 sacks, which was the record for a long time. But that was in a 12-game season because we had a strike... So in 12 games, he had 21 sacks. I mean, I don't think anybody's going to ever come close to that.

While the single-season sack record is 22.5 (Strayhan/Watt), they played 16 games. No one has approached 21 sacks in 12 games.
Win
Jun 9, 2021
#26116
Wade PhillipsWade Phillips

J.J. Watt is the only defensive lineman I've ever coached who was allowed to call his own stunts based on offensive formations

One of the guys I coached in the last several years was J.J. Watt. And we let J.J., we let him determine where he was going to go by the formation... Normally, the linebacker plays off the defensive lineman, but we just did the opposite with him. He's one of the few guys I've ever had that... just decipher what the formation is and then go play.

Wade is describing his own coaching philosophy and specific tenure with the Texans.

Of course, they couldn't let Wade go without asking about the Music City Miracle. Standing right across from the play on the sideline, Wade still hasn't changed his mind about what he saw that day in 2000.

Void
Jun 9, 2021
#7372
Wade PhillipsWade Phillips

The Titans' Music City Miracle was definitely a forward pass

I was standing there on the sideline, you know, right across from where they were making the play, where he was throwing the ball forward. So I still thought when they scored, I thought they, you know, they're going to call it back... threw it from behind the line and the guy caught it in front of a line. So I don't see how it couldn't have been forward.

The play was reviewed and upheld as a legal lateral; scientific analyses of 'parallax error' generally support the call, but it remains a legendary debate.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Aaron Rodgers' Happiness

In Hot Seat/Cool Throne, the guys discussed Arch Manning’s viral ball flip, which has PFT ready to crown a new king of the Manning dynasty before the kid even finishes high school.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Arch Manning is already the best Manning to ever play football

That ball flip was sick, though, wasn't it? When he did the pump fake, and then he flipped it. I think he's already better. I think he's already the best Manning to ever play football.

As of early 2024, Arch Manning is a backup at Texas and hasn't yet matched the NFL Hall of Fame careers of his uncles.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL teams should start tanking for Arch Manning right now

Teams should start tanking right now for Arch Manning. You need to have your shit together. You need to just be absolutely dog shit in the NFL for the next three years.

Hot TakeCFBHotSarcastic
Arch Manning eventually became the #1 overall recruit but was not draft-eligible until 2026; tanking in 2021 for a 2026 pick is literally impossible in the NFL.

They also checked in on Aaron Rodgers, who skipped minicamp to find "happiness and love" in Hawaii. With Jordan Love reportedly struggling in Green Bay, the path is clearing for a certain friend of the program to take the reins.

Loss
Jun 9, 2021
#7360
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Blake Bortles could be the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers this year

I have a prediction, Big Cat. I'm in the prediction business. I think that Blake Bortles could be the starting quarterback of the Green Bay Packers this year. Right now, Jordan Love, it seems like he's more valuable to the Packers as an asset.

Aaron Rodgers returned to play the full season; Bortles never started for Green Bay.

Finally, the guys touched on Gerrit Cole’s disastrous press conference regarding Spider Tack. PFT offered some veteran PR advice for the Yankees ace that could have saved him a lot of trouble.

Void
Jun 9, 2021
#7373
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Gerrit Cole should have just lied about using Spider Tack

Garrett Cole, here's a little PR I want to run for you. It's called lying. You just have to lie. And if you just lie, what will happen is people will print your lie. And then people will read that and be like, oh, Garrett Cole doesn't use spider tack. And then the story's over.

Subjective PR advice based on the humor of the situation.

If you need any more proof that the world is healing, a kid in Australia was caught on camera eating an entire watermelon—rind and all—at a cricket match. Nature is truly back.

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Loss
Jun 9, 2021
#7350
Big CatBig Cat

The 76ers will win their series against the Hawks

I do think the Sixers are going to win that series. But I've been wrong many, many times before. 40 points for Mr. Suck It [Embiid], he's out. I guess Triple H, he's out. Mr. Suck It, he's out.

The Hawks actually defeated the 76ers in 7 games to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Void
Jun 9, 2021
#7356
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is the most 'regular' superstar of all time in the NBA

I also think he's... the most regular superstar of all time in the NBA. He's as close as you can get to normal. He's just like a regular dude, and he thinks like a regular person would, realizes this absurd situation that he's in where hundreds of millions of people have opinions about him who he will never meet in his life. And he's better at basketball than all of them.

Purely subjective view of KD's personality.
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HankHank

College baseball fans are currently the craziest and most intense fans in sports

I think the college baseball fans have been the craziest of all the fans I've seen so far. Or at least it just feels... it's probably a smaller crowd, more packed in. But the walk-off home run in Tennessee the other night was crazy. The Arkansas home run last night was crazy. Insane. It's a great, great atmosphere.

Subjective opinion on fan intensity.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jeff Bezos will disable his companies while in outer space to prank Earth

I think the Earth's actually in the hot seat for all that because it's bad news whenever the richest person on Earth decides to leave for a little bit. what better there will never be a better time for jeff bezos to disable all of his companies that we depend on for everything than when he's in outer space with his brother pissed off at his ex-wife.

PredictionLifeHotSarcastic
Bezos went to space and came back without sabotaging Amazon.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Australia is back on the map as the 'weirdest' people on Earth thanks to a kid eating a watermelon rind

He brings an entire watermelon with him, and he starts eating it. He bites through the rind, and he eats the entire watermelon by himself. When I say entire, I mean the green, the white part. Everything... it's a huge dub for Australia... This put australia back on the map as like the weirdest people on the planet.

Subjective cultural ranking.
Void
Jun 9, 2021·FAQ
#26117
Big CatBig Cat

I would bail any PMT cast member out of jail for killing a man, but not a woman

I think if it was another man, I'd bail all of you guys out for killing another man. Well, no, I would not bail you out if you killed a woman. I think I'd bail you guys out if you guys were like, hey, I got into beef with another man, had to kill him. I'd be like, alright, fine, fuck it, let's roll.

A hyperbolic hypothetical about future behavior.

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