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#PMT-2017-0728-13145
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Jimmy Garoppolo is essentially Cody Kessler with a better logo

The way I've described him is it's like if you go into a shop and you've got 10 shirts that are exactly the same. It's like buying the one with the Nike logo on it. It's not necessarily a better shirt. It just looks better. [Garoppolo] and Cody Kessler is not a big difference.

Garoppolo went on to lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl and had a successful (though injury-prone) starting career, whereas Kessler washed out of the league quickly. The comparison was proven wrong over time.
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#PMT-2017-0728-13148
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Mitchell Trubisky should start immediately rather than sitting

Normally, you want to sit a rookie quarterback if he needs to fix his footwork or fix his throwing motion... But Trubisky's got good feet. He reacts to pressure well... I would play him so he can learn. He's got good accuracy. He's a good athlete. He's really poised. He can go through reads. And I'd happily take him as a starter.

Trubisky sat for the first four games of 2017 before starting. His career didn't ultimately justify the high evaluation, but the 'should he start' debate was a major topic in 2017.
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#PMT-2017-0728-13151
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the NFL

Well, I think the obvious one is Aaron Rodgers... [His struggles were because] His wide receivers can't catch the ball. Devontae Adams can't get open. Jordy Nelson couldn't move because he was coming off an ACL tear.

Rodgers' status as an elite QB is widely accepted, though ranking him above Brady in 2017 was a specific choice.
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#PMT-2017-0728-13153
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Tom Brady showed signs of regression in the 2016 playoffs despite winning the Super Bowl

The playoffs last year weren't great. I know they won the Super Bowl, they came back, but in the fourth quarter of that Falcons game, if you go through it, he threw the ball to defenders. On the Edelman catch, if you look at where that ball arrives and where he threw it, it was straight to the defender... That's just lucky.

Brady went on to win the NFL MVP in 2017 and led the league in passing yards, strongly refuting the 'regression' narrative at that time.
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#PMT-2017-0728-13158
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A .10 BAC is the minimum threshold for an underage drinking citation to be considered cool

At least a .10. That's really the threshold right there. Come on, like .04? Would you use mouthwash that morning?

OpinionLifeHotSubjectiveSarcastic
This is a subjective/comedic takes on social 'coolness' in college culture.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4226
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is triggered and definitely not enjoying his summer

LeBron James is triggered... When he hashtags 'enjoying my summer', hashtag 'you do the same', that's a pretty telltale sign he is not enjoying his summer. Because you know LeBron probably told someone to tell Stephen A. Smith, 'Hey, I want to beat Kyrie Irving's ass,' and then when it comes out, he goes to Twitter.

The fallout between LeBron and Kyrie led to a trade to Boston shortly after, confirming the tension Big Cat noted.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4231
Big CatBig Cat

The Tennessee Titans are the 'Dark Horse' team that isn't actually a dark horse

I also have the dark horse team that's not a dark horse team because everyone says it's their dark horse team. The Tennessee Titans. It's the team that just missed the playoffs and has a ton of young talent.

The Titans did indeed become a popular preseason pick and made the playoffs that year, winning a wildcard game.
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#PMT-2017-0726-4233
Big CatBig Cat

Derrick Rose signing with the Cavs is sad and marks the end of his relevancy

Derrick Rose just signed with the Cavs... He's going to be LeBron's little sidekick. Is he going to be Robin? It's very sad how his career has turned out. $2.1 million to play with a guy that he absolutely despised when he was in Chicago.

Rose struggled with the Cavs, was traded mid-season, and never returned to superstar status, though he had a later career resurgence in Minnesota.
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#PMT-2017-0726-4234
Big CatBig Cat

Golf is in good hands with Jordan Spieth as the new face of the sport

Golf is officially on the cool throne because Jordan Spieth, he is now the new face of golf. I don't know if you guys have seen, but golf is in good hands now. We're out of the woods with the post-Tiger Woods era. Jordan Spieth's the guy.

Spieth remained a top star, though other players like Brooks Koepka and Scottie Scheffler later challenged for the 'face of golf' title.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4235
Dan HarenDan Haren

David Ross is the face of baseball because of Dancing with the Stars

One guy that his retirement went so opposite of mine that it kind of annoys me now is David Ross... He was the face of baseball when it was the Dancing with the Stars. Buster Olney or Ken Rosenthal were saying he's the face of baseball because he's what most people would recognize.

Ross was incredibly visible in 2017 as a media figure and Cubs icon, making him one of the most recognizable 'baseball' people to the general public.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4236
Dan HarenDan Haren

Pitching inside is the safest way to attack Aaron Judge

With those guys, like the big guys like [Aaron Judge], I think keeping the ball inside is safer because if you throw it out over the middle, there's the chance to hit it right back up the middle right at you. So keeping it inside and hope they put it on the ground.

Pitching inside to power hitters like Judge remains a standard (if risky) strategy to avoid giving up home runs to the opposite field.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4238
Dan HarenDan Haren

Once a pitcher hurts their back, they are screwed long-term

It's unfortunate. Once you hurt your back, you're screwed. Trust me. [Kershaw] tried to change his workout... and I don't think it helped.

Kershaw's career has been defined by back management ever since, validating Haren's warning about the persistence of back issues.
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Take Slip·Jul 26, 2017
#PMT-2017-0726-4240
Dan HarenDan Haren

Yu Darvish is the best trade target available among top pitchers

I would take Darvish. I like Darvish. He's got great stuff. I know the Dodgers and Cubs are looking at both those guys, but I mean, they're all really good, but I'm a big fan of Yu Darvish. I like his stuff. I know Verlander's got more... control, but I'm a big Darvish guy.

Verlander ended up being the much more impactful trade (winning the World Series and an MVP later), while Darvish struggled in the World Series for the Dodgers.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-717
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving is requesting a trade to control his own destiny like LeBron James

I love it because [Kyrie Irving]'s basically pulling LeBron in LeBron's face. He's like, I want to control my own destiny just like you have. ... Kyrie's like, yeah, I don't want to stick around for you to leave next year and fuck me over.

Kyrie Irving did successfully force a trade to the Boston Celtics in August 2017, confirming his desire to leave Cleveland.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-719
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyrie Irving requesting a trade proves he is a 'beta' player

So Kyrie, not an alpha, right? ... Well, there you go. So that means he's not an alpha. Current beta. He's currently robbing LeBron James Batman. He's self-admitting that he's a beta. ... By asking for a trade, you're telling on yourself that you've been a beta for the last five years.

This is a subjective characterization typical of PFT's persona.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-723
Mike TysonMike Tyson

Floyd Mayweather is a 'small little boy' and that's why the media glosses over his past

Hey, Floyd's a little boy. That's why. He's a small little boy. He's not this big heavyweight guy that everybody's afraid of. He doesn't come across as a woman neither because he's a little guy.

This is Tyson's personal theory and observation about public perception.
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Take Slip·Jul 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0724-722
Mike TysonMike Tyson

McGregor only stands a chance against Mayweather if he can kick and use knees

McGregor have to be able to kick. ... He has to be able to kick and use his knees. ... [Otherwise] he's not going to stand much of a chance.

Subjective tactical analysis from a legend, though McGregor did lose without being allowed to kick.
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Take Slip·Jul 21, 2017
#PMT-2017-0721-12236
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I disagree with firing an SEC coach for seeing an escort in Tampa

I disagree with firing an SEC coach for going to see an escort, though, especially if it's in Tampa. That's home of that situation. That's a boys be boys situation.

This is a moral/professional judgment rather than a verifiable fact.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12237
Big CatBig Cat

Mark Trestman was a smart hiring choice for the Chicago Bears

I said that the Bears thought outside the box when hiring Mark Trestman, and it will pay big dividends as they have one of the smartest coaches in the NFL now.

Mark Trestman was fired after two losing seasons (13-19 record) and is widely considered one of the worst hires in Bears history.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12238
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Wally Szczerbiak and Keith Van Horn were going to be incredible NBA players

I thought that Nick Kaner-Medley, Wally Szczerbiak, Steve Wojciechowski, and Keith Van Horn would all be incredible NBA players.

While they had decent careers (Szczerbiak and Van Horn especially), they were not 'incredible' or elite superstars as predicted.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12240
HankHank

Rajon Rondo is just one notch below Paul Pierce in Celtics history

When Rajon Rondo got traded to the Mavericks, I said he was a notch below Pierce, who was like a notch below Bill Russell.

Pierce and Russell are top-tier legends with retired jerseys; Rondo's legacy, while strong, is several tiers lower.
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#PMT-2017-0721-12244
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Billionaires should pay for their own stadiums

It's unpopular to say it, but I think that billionaires should pay for their own fucking stadiums too, Bill [Simmons].

This is a subjective political/economic opinion regarding public policy.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16973
Big CatBig Cat

The Challenge is the fifth best sport in America

If we're talking about non-mainstream sports, that's The Challenge. It's the fifth best sport in all of America.

This is entirely subjective, though by television viewership and cultural footprint, it does not outrank the major four sports or soccer/golf.
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#PMT-2017-0719-16981
All Business PeteAll Business Pete

Curling is chess on ice and is a perfect mix of brain and brawn

It's chess on ice. It's a perfect mix of brain and brawn, and yeah, it's fantastic. The sweeping is incredibly taxing.

Subjective comparison of the sport's strategy and physical demands.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16982
JJ WattJJ Watt

Moms are more important than the troops

I'm going to go with moms come first. There would be no troops if it wasn't for moms.

Inherently subjective value judgment.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16984
JJ WattJJ Watt

Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James

[Gun to your head] I mean, you go with MJ.

The GOAT debate is a matter of opinion.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16986
JJ WattJJ Watt

LeBron James' career is an incredible feat given the spotlight he has faced since age 18

For what [LeBron]'s had to handle from such a young age... to have the entire world spotlight on you, expecting you to be great, and to go out there and to live up to all the hype that people have put on you. And also have a clean record off the court... that's incredible.

This is a subjective assessment of LeBron's career management and legacy.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16988
JJ WattJJ Watt

Winning a Super Bowl is more important than making the Hall of Fame

Super Bowl champion. The Hall of Fame is awesome. It's really cool. But I think at the end of the day, you know if you played good or not. I don't think you necessarily need the justification of wearing it.

Value judgment on career accomplishments.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16992
JJ WattJJ Watt

Success is not owned, it's leased, and rent is due every day

Its success is not owned its least and rent is due every day. And that's what I said... I've never once said that that was my quote. I've said before that it's not my quote. But people always give that to me.

The quote is an opinion on work ethic.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2017
#PMT-2017-0719-16997
JJ WattJJ Watt

Saving a child's life is more important than saving an elderly person

Saving a child's life. I mean, if you're going to save one, you've got to save the kids.

Ethical dilemma with no single correct answer.
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Take Slip·Jul 17, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0717-4534
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Deontay Foreman should become a Second Amendment activist to resolve his PR issues in Texas

This is a very on-brand thing in Texas, to have a gun. Everyone's got a gun in Texas. Just become a huge Second Amendment guy. Deontay Foreman should go into the Houston Chipotle with an AR-15 strapped over your shoulder. ... Then I'm sure you'll get all the NRA people just absolutely 100% having their back.

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Foreman did not do this. He eventually had the charges dropped and played for the Texans.
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#PMT-2017-0717-4530
Big CatBig Cat

The Aaron Judge slump is caused by participating in the Home Run Derby

The Aaron Judge, did he fuck up his swing, is fully back. He's like one for 14 right now. I think we called that before the home run derby even started, right?

Judge had a notable slump in August 2017 after the Derby, though he finished the season strong. The 'Home Run Derby Curse' is a common but debated theory.
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Take Slip·Jul 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0717-4535
JJ WattJJ Watt

You can't be one of the best players on a team if you only played three games

I think last year, yeah, I would not – I mean, you only played three games. You can't be one of the best players on the team if you only played three games.

This is a subjective evaluation of value versus availability.
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Take Slip·Jul 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0717-4531
JJ WattJJ Watt

I will never publicly put out statistical goals again

Never put numbers out anymore because then all people do is bring up those numbers and they don't actually watch. I did that one year... and for the rest of that next season and beyond, everybody's like, well, he didn't hit it. And everybody compares you to that.

This is a statement of personal policy which he has largely stuck to since.
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#PMT-2017-0714-7688
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

99% of office meetings could be solved with a text thread

I would say that 99% of meetings in general could just be solved with a text thread.

While hyperbolized, the sentiment is widely accepted in modern business theory regarding productivity.
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Take Slip·Jul 14, 2017
#PMT-2017-0714-7690
Mark TeixeiraMark Teixeira

Aaron Judge is the face of baseball right now

With Mike Trout being hurt, Mike Trout being on the West Coast, the New York market is just crazy about baseball. ... it's hard to say [Judge] is not the face of baseball right now.

Judge went on to win the AL Rookie of the Year and has remained one of the most recognizable stars in the sport since 2017.
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Take Slip·Jul 12, 2017
#PMT-2017-0712-17752
Big CatBig Cat

The MLB All-Star Game should matter for home-field advantage

I now this is this is going to be like people were like wow sick brag you went to the home run derby i have never been wowed by home runs like i was... but i would prefer for [the All-Star Game] to matter than sit there and be like, oh, who gives a shit? 2-1 game. No one's really trying that hard.

The MLB officially removed the 'This Time It Counts' rule in 2017, the year this was recorded, moving home-field advantage to the team with the better regular-season record.
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#PMT-2017-0712-17755
Big CatBig Cat

No specific controversy will ever be enough to bring down the Trump family

People who think this is the controversy to bring down the Trumps, because my favorite part about whatever the Trumps are getting into the entire family is the reaction saying this is it. This is the one. And guess what? This probably isn't the one, so you only have about 24 hours to say it's the one until everyone's like, eh, nothing's probably going to happen.

The Trump presidency lasted its full term despite numerous controversies that media outlets labeled as 'the one' to end it.
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Take Slip·Jul 12, 2017
#PMT-2017-0712-17756
Big CatBig Cat

The MLB should determine World Series home field by interleague play record

What they should do is whichever AL NL, whoever has a better record in interleague play. Boom. Problem solved. There's a little National League versus American League pride now.

The MLB opted for individual team record instead of league-wide interleague record.
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#PMT-2017-0712-17759
Big CatBig Cat

Floyd Mayweather is overmatched by Conor McGregor in trash talking

Mayweather for the first time in his life is very clearly overmatched in the shit talking game. So he's been known as a good shit talker but in reality he's just been like i'm gonna beat the fuck out of this guy... McGregor has that where basically anything McGregor says is funny because it's Irish.

While McGregor had many viral moments, the consensus on who 'won' the press conferences varied, and Mayweather ultimately won the fight comfortably.
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Take Slip·Jul 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0710-5340
Big CatBig Cat

Chris Berman retired from the Home Run Derby because it was in Miami and he'll sweat too much

Chris Berman retired from the All-Star game and ESPN last winter... I think maybe Chris Berman was like, oh, fuck. The home run derby is going to be in Miami. I think he was [reading the tea leaves]. They don't make a sweatshirt that's dark enough to cover up the stains that Berman would be sweating through.

Berman did retire/step down from his primary roles in early 2017, but he has actually returned for various appearances, making the 'triumphant comeback' part partially correct in spirit.
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#PMT-2017-0710-5341
HankHank

Meditating is a top-four way to cool down in the summer

My last one is just meditating. Meditate... when I said meditating, I meant cool down like when you get hot in an argument. Like when you ever get in a really big argument. You need to take a deep breath.

This is subjective, but widely considered a 'bad' take within the context of the segment's intent.
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#PMT-2017-0710-5342
Big CatBig Cat

Laying on the bathroom floor is the greatest feeling when you have the spins

This is actually more for when you have the spins, but it still is the greatest thing in the world. Just laying down on the bathroom floor... There's actually no better feeling in the world. It's great. When you're hot, when you're drunk, when you have the spins.

Subjective personal preference.
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#PMT-2017-0710-5343
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers loves to get angry at other athletes' contracts

This is like the Aaron Rodgers specialty. Aaron Rodgers loves to get pissed off at other quarterbacks' contracts. That's like his thing. I want him to start jumping into other sports too and getting pissed off and be like, hey, I'm a better quarterback than James Harden is a shooting guard. How come I'm not getting paid?

Rodgers has historically been very vocal and strategic about his contract positioning, though 'loving' getting pissed is PFT's comedic spin.
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#PMT-2017-0710-5344
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clayton Kershaw is the 'asshole' of Major League Baseball

For Clayton Kershaw, he's just like the – would you consider him an asshole?... every pitcher, if they're going to be a really good pitcher, they need to have a streak of being an asshole. Yeah, so we'll call Clayton the asshole of Major League Baseball.

Kershaw is generally known for his intensity on the mound, but 'asshole' is a subjective label used for comedic effect.
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Take Slip·Jul 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0710-5345
AJ PierzynskiAJ Pierzynski

Catchers and calling the game are more important than hitting or throwing

Number one is catching and calling a game no matter what. You have to be able to call a game, know the right pitch, know your pitching staff, know when to call and what to call at certain times... throwing would have to be last, and probably hitting and then throwing is last.

This is a professional opinion from an expert, though analytics-heavy fans might argue for hitting value (Piazza model).
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Take Slip·Jul 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0710-5346
AJ PierzynskiAJ Pierzynski

Shoeless Joe Jackson belongs in the Hall of Fame

You think Joe Jackson should be a Hall of Famer?... Yes, I do... He had a pretty good World Series for someone trying to throw it.

The debate remains unresolved as Jackson is still officially banned from the Hall of Fame.
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Take Slip·Jul 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0710-5347
AJ PierzynskiAJ Pierzynski

Tim Tebow should 'go for it' in baseball even if he doesn't make it

Why not? Go for it. I mean, hey, if someone wants to give you a job to play professional sports and you want to try it, why would you say no?... If you don't make it, you don't make it, and you can always go back to ESPN and do the SEC.

Tebow did exactly this, playing in the minors until 2021 before returning to broadcasting.
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Take Slip·Jul 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0710-5348
AJ PierzynskiAJ Pierzynski

St. Louis Cardinals fans are the classiest in baseball, followed by the White Sox

Rank the classiest fan bases... Well, St. Louis is number one. You could be 0 for 100, and they'll tell you you're going to get a hit tomorrow, even though you know you're not going to... For me, the White Sox, too, probably. Braves, three.

Subjective ranking of fan bases.
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#PMT-2017-0710-5350
Big CatBig Cat

Dentist offices should be installed on airplanes to save time

I'm also the guy who has the idea that we should start having dentist offices in planes so we can, you know, kill two birds with one stone... obviously we're gonna have to get through some of these hurdles [like turbulence].

Logistically impossible and has not happened.
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