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Cy Young Winner Dan Haren

Wednesday, July 26, 201722 takes

Lebron is mad online about Kyrie but he wants everyone to know he's having a happy summer ( - ) . Training camp story lines now that football is back ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne with special extra hot seat for Billy Football after he accidentally tweeted out PFT's phone number ( - ). Mt Rushmore of greetings ( - ). Former Cy Young Winner Dan Haren joins the show after a long hiatus to discuss why he's been dodging us, what he's been up to with the Diamondbacks, who the best pitcher is in baseball and how to get Bryce Harper out ( - ). Segments include the War on the War on Football, Football Guy of the Week for Jim Harbaugh, PR 101 for Lucky Whitehead, Respect the Biz for Colin Cowherd and Guys on Chicks.

Dan Haren on DBAPs, MLB Face of Baseball, and Billy’s Phone Number Leak

LeBron James is in the middle of a classic social media meltdown following reports that he wants to fight Kyrie Irving. Between the defensive hashtags and the passive-aggressive posts, Big Cat is calling a spade a spade when it comes to the King’s summer vibes.

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4226
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is triggered and definitely not enjoying his summer

LeBron James is triggered... When he hashtags 'enjoying my summer', hashtag 'you do the same', that's a pretty telltale sign he is not enjoying his summer. Because you know LeBron probably told someone to tell Stephen A. Smith, 'Hey, I want to beat Kyrie Irving's ass,' and then when it comes out, he goes to Twitter.

The fallout between LeBron and Kyrie led to a trade to Boston shortly after, confirming the tension Big Cat noted.

PFT Commenter is already charting out the rest of the LeBron cycle, predicting that we are only a few days away from the inevitable shift toward pseudo-philosophical motivation.

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4227
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James' next social media move will be posting lion quotes to look like an alpha

This is going to end in a couple weeks with LeBron posting like an image of a lion that says 'lions don't concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.' His next post will be him in the gym just being like 'out here grinding, not worrying about Kyrie Irving.'

LeBron famously posted workout videos and motivational/cryptic quotes throughout the 2017 offseason.

Training Camp Storylines

Smell that? Football is back. With training camps opening up across the country, Big Cat and PFT Commenter are dusting off the annual tropes. We’ve got the "best shape of his life" guy, the "next man up" cliché, and the inevitable camp battle stories. Big Cat is already eyeing the situation in Denver as a prime candidate for a system-change breakout.

Loss
Jul 26, 2017
#4228
Big CatBig Cat

Paxton Lynch will excel in Mike McCoy's offensive system

I have the new offensive system guy. I saw this with Paxton Lynch. Mike McCoy is in Denver now. So Paxton Lynch, he's really going to excel because Mike McCoy will let him play out of the shotgun.

Paxton Lynch was a major bust for the Broncos and never excelled under Mike McCoy or anyone else.

Hank is predictably all-in on the Patriots, though he’s not the only one buying the hype in Foxborough this year.

Loss
Jul 26, 2017
#4229
HankHank

The Patriots might go undefeated this season

Can the Patriots go undefeated? Okay. A lot of people are saying that. Many people are saying that.

The Patriots went 13-3 in the regular season and lost the Super Bowl to the Eagles.

PFT Commenter is less optimistic about certain other AFC East quarterbacks making a jump to superstardom this fall.

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4230
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ryan Tannehill will not be in the MVP conversation

Is this the year that Ryan Tannehill gets to the next level? He's not going to be in the MVP talk. I guarantee you that.

Tannehill suffered a season-ending injury in training camp shortly after this episode aired and was nowhere near the MVP race.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Billy Football is in a hot seat so scorching it might actually end his internship. Billy attempted to tweet a funny screenshot of a text from PFT Commenter, only to realize too late that he left PFT’s actual phone number in the image. After 38,000 people saw it, PFT has been fielding hundreds of FaceTimes and texts. To atone for his sins, Billy had to answer live calls on air and beg fans to stop calling so he doesn't get fired.

In more sports-centric news, Big Cat is mourning the state of Derrick Rose’s career now that he’s joined the Cavaliers on a veteran minimum deal.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Derrick Rose signing with the Cavs is sad and marks the end of his relevancy

Derrick Rose just signed with the Cavs... He's going to be LeBron's little sidekick. Is he going to be Robin? It's very sad how his career has turned out. $2.1 million to play with a guy that he absolutely despised when he was in Chicago.

Rose struggled with the Cavs, was traded mid-season, and never returned to superstar status, though he had a later career resurgence in Minnesota.

Meanwhile, PFT Commenter is setting the bar for a Cavs title run on the brittle knees of their newest point guard.

Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If Derrick Rose stays healthy this season, the Cavaliers will win the NBA Championship

A lot of people are going to say, if Derrick Rose can stay healthy this year, then the Cavs are going to win. As a matter of fact, if there's anybody out there that's like a deadbeat dad in Cleveland... if Derrick Rose can play a full season... then I'll be your real dad.

Derrick Rose struggled with injuries and was eventually traded mid-season. The Cavs lost the NBA Finals to the Warriors in four games.

On the Cool Throne, Jordan Spieth is officially the king of the links after his Open Championship win. Big Cat thinks the sport is finally safe.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Golf is in good hands with Jordan Spieth as the new face of the sport

Golf is officially on the cool throne because Jordan Spieth, he is now the new face of golf. I don't know if you guys have seen, but golf is in good hands now. We're out of the woods with the post-Tiger Woods era. Jordan Spieth's the guy.

Spieth remained a top star, though other players like Brooks Koepka and Scottie Scheffler later challenged for the 'face of golf' title.

Cy Young Winner Dan Haren

Former MLB pitcher and Diamondbacks consultant Dan Haren finally returns to the show after a long hiatus. He’s been busy scouting for Arizona, but he’s still salty about not being on the original Mount Rushmore of recurring guests. When the conversation turned to the current state of the game, Dan had a surprising take on who actually holds the title of "Face of Baseball."

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4235
Dan HarenDan Haren

David Ross is the face of baseball because of Dancing with the Stars

One guy that his retirement went so opposite of mine that it kind of annoys me now is David Ross... He was the face of baseball when it was the Dancing with the Stars. Buster Olney or Ken Rosenthal were saying he's the face of baseball because he's what most people would recognize.

Ross was incredibly visible in 2017 as a media figure and Cubs icon, making him one of the most recognizable 'baseball' people to the general public.

As a guy who spent years on the mound, Dan broke down the scouting reports for the league's biggest monsters. When it comes to Aaron Judge, the strategy is simple: don't let him extend those arms.

Void
Jul 26, 2017
#4236
Dan HarenDan Haren

Pitching inside is the safest way to attack Aaron Judge

With those guys, like the big guys like [Aaron Judge], I think keeping the ball inside is safer because if you throw it out over the middle, there's the chance to hit it right back up the middle right at you. So keeping it inside and hope they put it on the ground.

Pitching inside to power hitters like Judge remains a standard (if risky) strategy to avoid giving up home runs to the opposite field.

He also gave us the lowdown on the Coors Field effect, explaining why your favorite pitcher’s junk suddenly stops working when they land in Denver.

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#26432
Dan HarenDan Haren

Pitching in high altitude causes sliders, curveballs, and sinkers to have significantly less movement

They break less. Sliders break less. You know, sinkers don't sink as much. The key when you pitch in Colorado... was minimizing walks... just less guys on base.

The physics of thin air reducing the Magnus effect on a baseball is a scientifically proven fact in sports science.

Before letting him go, Dan Haren put his reputation on the line with a bold prediction for his own squad in October.

Push
Jul 26, 2017
#4239
Dan HarenDan Haren

The Diamondbacks will defeat the Astros in the 2017 World Series

I'll say Diamondbacks versus Astros then... Diamondbacks [win].

The Astros did win the World Series, but they beat the Dodgers, not the Diamondbacks (who lost in the NLDS).

Protect the Shield and Guys on Chicks

The War on Football is reaching a fever pitch with new CTE studies, but PFT Commenter thinks the media is ignoring the real dangers facing the average American.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Watching football is more dangerous than playing football because of binge drinking

I would even submit that watching football is more dangerous than playing football because when you're watching football, you're binge drinking. You're around buddies. You're more likely to get into a fight. You're more likely to puke, pee on yourself. You get all sorts of diseases from that.

This is a comedic/satirical claim and not meant to be factually evaluated.

In Guys on Chicks, the crew addressed the age-old question of what to do for a boyfriend after a tough loss. While most would suggest a nice meal or some space, PFT Commenter thinks the solution is much more primal.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

There is nothing a woman can do to make a man happy after a football loss; he only needs a physical fight

I don't think that guys – there's really nothing that a girl can do to make a guy happy after his team loses a football game. The guy just needs to go out and get in a fight. So here's what you do. Just arrange a fight for him.

This is a purely satirical and subjective take on fan psychology.

Billy Football might be fired by Friday, but at least he’ll always have the memory of leaking a coworker's personal data to the entire world.

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More Takes

Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4231
Big CatBig Cat

The Tennessee Titans are the 'Dark Horse' team that isn't actually a dark horse

I also have the dark horse team that's not a dark horse team because everyone says it's their dark horse team. The Tennessee Titans. It's the team that just missed the playoffs and has a ton of young talent.

The Titans did indeed become a popular preseason pick and made the playoffs that year, winning a wildcard game.
Void
Jul 26, 2017
#26431
Billy FootballBilly Football

J.J. Watt's extreme health and diet routines are a cover to hide that he uses steroids

J.J. Watt doing a new health thing just to make pretend he's non-steroids. So last year it was like nine avocados a day or whatever... he was like sleeping in that bed in the middle of the day during Hard Knocks.

This is a speculative hot take that cannot be verified without failed tests, which never occurred.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike Vick's dog training experience will help him as an NFL coaching intern

There are actually probably some lessons from [Mike Vick's] dog training days that he could directly apply to training athletes. He's going to keep his young quarterbacks on a short leash until they're trustworthy.

This is a satirical analogy and cannot be factually proven or disproven.
Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4237
Dan HarenDan Haren

Clayton Kershaw and Max Scherzer are the best pitchers in baseball

Him [Kershaw] and Scherzer are the best ones. [Kershaw] is the best pitcher in baseball. I'm worried about his back, though. This is the third year in a row he's gone on the DL for his back.

In 2017, these two were widely considered the elite. Scherzer won the Cy Young in 2017, and Kershaw remained elite but plagued by back issues.
Win
Jul 26, 2017
#4238
Dan HarenDan Haren

Once a pitcher hurts their back, they are screwed long-term

It's unfortunate. Once you hurt your back, you're screwed. Trust me. [Kershaw] tried to change his workout... and I don't think it helped.

Kershaw's career has been defined by back management ever since, validating Haren's warning about the persistence of back issues.
Loss
Jul 26, 2017
#4240
Dan HarenDan Haren

Yu Darvish is the best trade target available among top pitchers

I would take Darvish. I like Darvish. He's got great stuff. I know the Dodgers and Cubs are looking at both those guys, but I mean, they're all really good, but I'm a big fan of Yu Darvish. I like his stuff. I know Verlander's got more... control, but I'm a big Darvish guy.

Verlander ended up being the much more impactful trade (winning the World Series and an MVP later), while Darvish struggled in the World Series for the Dodgers.
Loss
Jul 26, 2017·PR 101
#4242
Big CatBig Cat

Lucky Whitehead will sign with the Patriots and win a Super Bowl

It's very clear that Lucky Whitehead's probably going to sign with the Patriots and win a Super Bowl ring. And we're all just going to be like, 'What the fuck?' I hope that happens.

Whitehead signed with the Jets, not the Patriots, and did not win a Super Bowl.
Loss
Jul 26, 2017
#4243
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Malik Jackson claims the Jaguars will win the Super Bowl this year

Malik Jackson, Super Bowl champion Malik Jackson... two-time Super Bowl champion because he said earlier this week that he's going to win the Super Bowl this year with the Jaguars.

The 2017 Jaguars had a surprising 'Sacksonville' run to the AFC Championship game but lost to the Patriots and did not win the Super Bowl.

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