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Adnan Virk, Mt Rushmore of Average Things, and Guys on Chicks

Wednesday, July 24, 201917 takes

Training camps are starting to open and we can smell football ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including millennials and  the earth ( - ). Mt Rushmore of perfectly average things ( - ). DAZN host Adnan Virk joins the show to talk about his new gig, his firing from ESPN, baseball and movies ( - ). Segments include bachelorette talk for guys that don't watch the bachelorette, Kings stay Kings Andy Reid, thoughts and prayer USA basketball, PMT sports biz minute and Guys on Chicks

Adnan Virk on ESPN Exit, the Mt. Rushmore of Average Things, and the Tennis GOAT Debate

Training camps are finally opening, which means we can officially smell football. While the guys are getting juiced up for the season, the typical camp injuries are already dampening the mood. PFT is already looking at the clock for the inevitable yearly casualty.

Loss
Jul 24, 2019
#5827
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jake Butt will suffer another torn ACL in the next 36 to 48 hours

We're about to, I'd say, like in the next 36 to 48 hours for Jake Butt, [torn] ACL. I hope not... the NFL is a much better place when there is a guy named Butt on the back of his jersey running around making plays.

Jake Butt did not tear his ACL in this specific 48-hour window in July 2019, though he was already dealing with complications from a previous tear.

The arrival of camp also means it is officially QB tier season. Big Cat and PFT discussed the binary system of quarterbacks: you're either a guy who can win a Super Bowl, or you're elite at being sucky. This led to a very heated debate regarding Detroit's signal caller.

Loss
Jul 24, 2019
#5828
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford is an elite sucky quarterback who cannot win a Super Bowl

There's the really good sucky quarterback. [Matthew] Stafford is a perfect... he is an elite sucky quarterback. But you're like, if you had to ask yourself, could Matt Stafford win a Super Bowl? Answers probably no. He's right on the edge of suck. That's why he's an elite sucky quarterback. Because it's like, if you put him in the right spot, everything could go perfectly.

Stafford was traded to the Rams and immediately won Super Bowl LVI in 2022, proving he could indeed win the big one.
Win
Jul 24, 2019
#29572
HankHank

Matthew Stafford could win a Super Bowl if he wasn't on the Lions

I think [Stafford] could win a Super Bowl, too. Not on the Lions... but Matt Stafford in a vacuum could win a Super Bowl.

Stafford eventually won a Super Bowl with the Rams in the 2021 season, proving this correct.

In Hot Seat/Cool Throne, Hank puts millennials on the hot seat after Pat Fitzgerald's rant about phones ruining attendance. PFT is eyeing the Arctic Circle as it currently burns like 300,000 football fields, while Big Cat is just ready to watch Roger Goodell unleash chaos on the Patriots once again.

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Big CatBig Cat

Roger Goodell should suspend Tom Brady for cliff diving with his daughter

It would be the ultimate troll move by Roger Goodell to suspend Tom Brady for one game after Tyreek Hill gets zero and just be like, hey, there's videotape... wouldn't be right, but it would be fucking funny.

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Tom Brady was not suspended for this vacation video.

Mt. Rushmore of Average Things

In honor of the dog days of July, the guys tackled a Mt. Rushmore of the most perfectly average things in the world. They covered everything from ham sandwiches and long-sleeved shirts to the Toyota Camry. PFT took a stand on a specific NFC North quarterback as the gold standard of mediocrity.

Push
Jul 24, 2019·Mt. Rushmore
#5833
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kirk Cousins is the most average quarterback of all time

Kirk Cousins, probably the most average quarterback that these two eyes have ever seen. He will beat every team that is less than 8-8, and he will lose to every team that is better than 8-8... you never expect him to do anything great, and guess what? He never does.

While Cousins has remained consistently productive, he won a major playoff game against the 13-3 Saints in the 2019 playoffs, slightly complicating the 'loses to winning teams' narrative.

Big Cat shifted the focus to the college ranks, pointing out that one specific ACC program has perfected the art of being exactly five-ten throughout its entire existence.

Win
Jul 24, 2019·Mt. Rushmore
#5834
Big CatBig Cat

NC State is the most average college football team in history

North Carolina State football... they are five-ten overall for their entire history. Five hundred and ten winning percentage. They have twenty-three of the last 40 years they've gone to a bowl game. All the bowl games are like the exact same... the Gator Bowl, the Sun Bowl, the Independence Bowl... Every year is basically 7, 8, 9 [wins].

Historical data supports NC State being remarkably consistent in the 7-9 win range for decades.

Adnan Virk

Friend of the program Adnan Virk joined the show to discuss his new gig at DAZN, his high-profile exit from ESPN, and his legendary love for cinema. The conversation turned to the Chicago Cubs and whether Joe Maddon is actually the problem in the North Side clubhouse.

Win
Jul 24, 2019
#5835
Adnan VirkAdnan Virk

You cannot fire Joe Maddon unless there is a clear replacement like David Ross

Whenever you fire a guy, you have to be able to say, hey, we've got the next man up. Like, who is the one lurking in the wings? I think people think it's David Ross... if it's Rossi, then I'm all in.

The Cubs did not renew Joe Maddon's contract after the 2019 season and immediately hired David Ross to replace him.
Void
Jul 24, 2019
#5836
Big CatBig Cat

David Ross would be a great manager because modern baseball is about clubhouse management over X's and O's

I think the way that the manager position in baseball has moved to now, it's less about the X's and O's... It's a lot more about keeping a clubhouse together... and I think David Ross would be great at that aspect.

Ross was hired for exactly this reason. Whether he was 'great' is subjective, as he was eventually fired for Craig Counsell after four seasons.

Adnan also weighed in on the legendary finale of *The Sopranos*, offering a theory that puts the audience right in the line of fire.

Void
Jul 24, 2019
#5838
Adnan VirkAdnan Virk

In The Sopranos finale, David Chase whacked the audience

I believe that David Chase actually whacked us. He whacked the audience because we're watching him and we go to black. We can't see any more of the story. So I think that we get killed.

This is a prominent but subjective theory on the finale's meaning.

As a huge movie buff, Adnan gave his flowers to the ending of *Breaking Bad* while PFT and Big Cat tried to drag him into a debate about the *Serial* podcast. PFT, ever the legal scholar, provided his definitive ruling on the case.

Void
Jul 24, 2019
#5837
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Adnan Syed probably killed Hae Min Lee

The point of that podcast [Serial] is to just inundate you with both sides of everything... The show would not be interesting if it was just very clear that he was railroaded... I think he probably did it. Yeah. All things being equal.

Syed's conviction was vacated in 2022 and charges were dropped, though legal proceedings continued. The actual guilt remains a point of massive public debate.

The interview wrapped with a heated tennis GOAT debate after Federer's heart-wrenching loss to Djokovic at Wimbledon. While Adnan remains a Federer loyalist, Big Cat is looking at the scoreboard.

Win
Jul 24, 2019
#5840
Big CatBig Cat

Novak Djokovic is the Tennis GOAT

Djokovic is the GOAT. [Adnan: No, you're brutal.] How much does it suck to root for a guy [Federer] who keeps losing to Djokovic?

Djokovic went on to set the record for most Grand Slams and weeks at Number 1, making this take increasingly correct.

Guys on Chicks and Segments

Segments include a check-in on *The Bachelorette* for people who don't watch it (even though Hank definitely does). Big Cat reminds everyone that there are better ways to spend a Monday night than watching Hannah B. deal with Luke P.

Void
Jul 24, 2019
#5841
Big CatBig Cat

Watching Monday Night Raw for a Stone Cold appearance is better than watching The Bachelorette

It's so lame that people watch that show [The Bachelorette]. Be a real man and watch three hours of Monday Night Raw just so that Stone Cold [Steve Austin] can come out for the last five seconds... I did that last night.

This is a subjective preference of entertainment.

Jake Marsh delivered his Sports Biz Minute, exploring why baseball managers wear pajamas and suggesting a bold new look for guys like Coach O on the sidelines.

Loss
Jake MarshJake Marsh

College football coaches should wear helmets and full pads on the sideline

Why the heck do baseball managers wear full uniforms?... Imagine if other sports did this. Give me Coach O [Ed Orgeron] in a helmet and full pads, parlayed with Greg Popovich.

Coaches have not yet adopted protective gear on the sidelines.

We wrapped up with Guys on Chicks, covering everything from spray tan etiquette to boyfriends who are understandably intimidated by the raw sexual charisma of Hank Lockwood.

Don't forget to take your sick days because ESPN won't give you credit for them when they fire you on Super Bowl Sunday.

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More Takes

Open
Jul 24, 2019
#5829
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer

Matt Stafford, by the way, still a Hall of Famer.

Stafford's Hall of Fame case is strong given his volume stats and Super Bowl ring, but he is not yet eligible/inducted.
Loss
Jul 24, 2019
#5830
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Browns are 100% winning the Super Bowl this year, hammer them

Well, the good news is the Browns are going to win the Super Bowl this year. 100%. Hammer the Browns this year.

The 2019 Browns finished 6-10 and missed the playoffs.
Void
Jul 24, 2019
#5839
Adnan VirkAdnan Virk

Breaking Bad had the greatest TV show ending of all time

Breaking Bad would be like the best. I don't think it can get any better than that... Everything felt clear. His kids still get the money. Jesse gets away. He's the moral conscious. Hank does die, which I think at that point, he doesn't want to die. He needed to die.

This is a widely held critical opinion.
Void
Jul 24, 2019
#29573
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pete Sampras's 14 majors were more impressive than the era of Federer and Djokovic because Sampras was so much better than his peers

Sampras's [majors] were more impressive... Sampras was just that much better than everybody else that he was playing at the time.

A classic sports debate metric that can't be objectively resolved.

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