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Monday, October 16, 201716 takes

Fastest 2 Minutes in Football for Week 6 ( - ). We have recency bias on which teams are good in the NFL and playoff baseball talk ( - ). Who's Back of the Week ( - ). Football Guy of the Week featuring Will Muschamp putting his face in fire ( - ). UFC President Dana White joins the show to talk about Mayweather/McGregor, what it's like to promote a fight, why he has a girl's name, and upcoming UFC 217 ( - ). Segments include Trouble in Paradise for the Browns, Grumors with Jon Gruden in Knoxville, Talking Soccer, and Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules for the Patriots/Jets ending.

Dana White on UFC 217, McGregor/Mayweather, and Aaron Rodgers' Collarbone

Week 6 is in the books and the biggest story in the league is Anthony Barr turning Aaron Rodgers’ collarbone into dust. While the NFL is objectively worse without its best quarterback, Big Cat and PFT are already looking at the silver lining: the return of the rumor mill. We’re talking Tony Romo coming out of the booth, Brett Favre tossing the pigskin with teenagers in Mississippi, and maybe even a Colin Kaepernick appearance in Green Bay.

Win
Oct 16, 2017
#14635
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL is much worse without Aaron Rodgers

I do think the NFL is much worse without [Rodgers] because we already have a league with very few good quarterbacks, and Aaron Rodgers is probably the best one in the NFL.

General consensus among fans and analysts is that losing elite star talent degrades the quality of the league product.

Speaking of the Gunslinger, Big Cat is ready to start the most successful GoFundMe in human history just to see a 48-year-old Favre throw into triple coverage one more time.

Void
Oct 16, 2017
#28617
Big CatBig Cat

I would bet $100 million that America would pay to see Brett Favre come back one more time

If J.J. Watt can raise $30 million for hurricane relief, I guarantee that if all the football fans in America come together and we're like, hey, we want to watch Brett Favre just throw the fucking ball around the yard just a couple more times... I guarantee we could raise $100 million.

A hypothetical crowdfunding goal that was never attempted. Favre was 48 at the time; the interest would have been massive, but the figure is satirical.

Playoff Baseball and California Softness

The Cubs and Yankees are both down 0-2, and Big Cat is spiraling over Joe Maddon’s in-game management. Bringing in John Lackey in the ninth inning of a tie game is a move that only makes sense if you’ve completely lost your mind or you're betting against your own team.

Win
Oct 16, 2017
#28618
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Maddon zigs and zags too much and doesn't know what he's doing in-game

Joe Maddon has lost his fucking mind because he brought in John Lackey... And you brought him in in the ninth in a tie game with a runner on second. And, oh, would you look at that? John Lackey gave up a game-winning home run... He's zigging and zagging. He doesn't know he's weaving. He's all over the road.

The Cubs lost the 2017 NLCS in 5 games, and Maddon's decision-making was widely panned. His tenure in Chicago ended two years later.

Despite the hole the Cubs are in, there is still hope because they’re heading back to Wrigley to face a Dodgers team that hails from the land of milkshakes and In-N-Out.

Loss
Oct 16, 2017
#14637
Big CatBig Cat

The Dodgers will fold if the Cubs push them because California teams are soft

As long as [the Cubs] win two games at Wrigley... I still think the Dodgers, if you push them a little, they'll start to fold. They're a little soft. [Because they're from California?]. That would be correct.

The Dodgers did not fold; they defeated the Cubs 4-1 in the NLCS to advance to the World Series.

Dana White and the UFC Grind

UFC President Dana White joined the show in person and immediately dealt with PFT’s conspiracy theories about Conor McGregor and Floyd Mayweather sharing a private jet. Dana stayed firm that everything in his world is real, though he did admit that he’s very disappointed in Jon Jones. Even with the PED drama, Dana isn't hedging on Jones’ legacy.

Win
Oct 16, 2017
#14639
Dana WhiteDana White

Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time

I think [Jon Jones] is the greatest of all time. I think if he had done everything the way he should have, he'd be a huge superstar. He might even be the heavyweight champion of the world.

While controversial due to PEDs, many experts still consider Jones the GOAT, and he did eventually become Heavyweight Champion in 2023.

We also got into the upcoming UFC 217 card at MSG. Dana broke down the animosity between Bisping and GSP, the return of Johnny Hendricks, and why Ronda Rousey’s legacy is actually stronger than the internet trolls want you to believe.

Void
Oct 16, 2017
#14641
Dana WhiteDana White

Ronda Rousey is underrated for what she built in women's MMA

Underrated. Look at what she did. Look at what she built. She started it all... That whole combination of what she was is what built the women's mixed martial arts world. It's like a chicken and the egg phenomenon.

Rousey's role as a pioneer is undisputed, even if her late-career performance was criticized.

Before letting him go, Big Cat and PFT tried to convince Dana to change his name to "Freddie White" because it sounds more like a legendary fight promoter and less like, well, a girl's name.

Football Guy of the Week

Will Muschamp is the clear frontrunner after he claimed he’d stick his face in a fire over and over again if it meant he could stay on the field without a helmet. It’s that kind of grit that the guys appreciate, even if the science is a little fuzzy on the safety benefits.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

You are statistically less likely to get a concussion without a helmet because you protect your head more

I think you're actually statistically less likely to get a concussion when you're not wearing a helmet. [PFT]: Agree, because you protect your head more. That's a basic fact of human reaction to things.

While some studies suggest un-helmeted athletes play more cautiously, the claim that it is 'statistically' safer is highly contested and generally considered incorrect in the context of high-impact sports like football.

We also had to call out Mike Gundy for being in way too good of shape. You can’t have a mullet and a six-pack at the same time; it sends a confusing message to the youth of Oklahoma. Between Gundy and Kliff Kingsbury, the "pretty boy" head coach movement is officially on the Hot Seat.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Gundy and Kliff Kingsbury are too pretty to be 'football guys'

Mike Gundy's in really good shape. I don't like that... The mullet has gone to his head... Kliff Kingsbury's another one like that... where he looks too nice. You can't look that nice and that pretty and be a football guy. You're a fake-ass football guy.

This is a subjective judgment based on the show's internal definition of a 'Football Guy.'

Trouble in Paradise

The Cleveland Browns are once again a disaster, with Hue Jackson and the front office engaging in a classic finger-pointing exercise over who forgot to draft Deshaun Watson. Big Cat is already calling the winner of this power struggle, and it doesn't look good for the guy with the headset.

Win
Oct 16, 2017
#14644
Big CatBig Cat

Hugh Jackson will lose the power struggle with the Browns front office

When you know the front office and the coach are on the outs with each other... only one can survive... I think Hugh's going to lose that power struggle.

Hue Jackson was eventually fired in October 2018, losing the battle to the front office structure.

We wrapped up the show with a look at Mike Greenberg’s potential Twitter suspension and a plea to get rid of instant replay before we spend the rest of our lives watching refs look at tablet screens in slow motion.

Loss
Oct 16, 2017·Picks
#14646
Big CatBig Cat

Instant replay should be abolished in sports

I think we should actually get rid of instant replay. All together, just give it all the power back to the refs and the umps... I feel like I watch instant replays more than I watch sports now.

Replay has only expanded since 2017, making this take incorrect in terms of the direction of sports.

Don't forget to stay up late for the debut of Barstool Van Talk on ESPN2—sleep is just a bunch of mini-collisions in your brain anyway.

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Loss
Oct 16, 2017
#14634
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Giants are probably better without Odell Beckham Jr.

Should we just embrace debate right now? Are the Giants better without Odell Beckham? Hmm. Probably.

The 2017 Giants finished 3-13. While they won their first game without Odell in this episode, they were historically worse without their star receiver.
Void
Oct 16, 2017
#28616
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers has become complacent and needs a backup to challenge him

Aaron Rodgers, I'm just going off my eyeballs here, he seems like a guy that can get complacent. That's just my working theory. So if he has someone who has taken the first four rounds behind him [Brett Hundley], then he has to show up on time.

Subjective opinion on Rodgers' mental state, but Rodgers continued to be the face of the franchise and arguably the league's best QB for several more years before any real 'complacency' narratives took hold in the 2020s.
Void
Oct 16, 2017
#14636
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Maddon is not a great in-game manager

I don't think he's that great in-game. I think he's pretty good at rallying a team and getting a team together and getting the most out of a young team, but I would say in-game he leaves a little to desire.

Maddon's in-game decisions, particularly bullpen management, were heavily scrutinized during the 2016 World Series and 2017 NLCS.
Win
Oct 16, 2017
#14643
Dana WhiteDana White

If Johnny Hendricks loses at UFC 217, he should retire

I think [Hendricks] would have to start looking at retirement. [if he loses].

Hendricks did lose at UFC 217 and subsequently retired from MMA shortly after.
Loss
Oct 16, 2017
#28620
Dana WhiteDana White

Conor McGregor's next fight will probably be against Tony Ferguson in Las Vegas

It's probably going to be Tony Ferguson in Las Vegas. But we do want to do Croke Park. The reason we haven't done Croke Park yet with Conor is because we can't get it done over there... they have noise ordinances.

McGregor's next fight was actually against Khabib Nurmagomedov at UFC 229 in October 2018. He never fought Tony Ferguson.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

We should stop learning because mini-collisions in the brain make you dumber

Why don't we go after math? Why don't we go after learning? Because when you think about it, all learning is is a bunch of electrons running into each other. A lot of mini collisions inside your head probably makes you dumber in the long term. Basically like playing the offensive line.

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