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Dave Wannstedt And Rone 12/05/16

Monday, December 5, 201619 takes

The guys are back from the MAC Championship and B1G Championship. NFL Week 13 Recap ( - ). Blogger and Battle Rap Champion Rone joins the show to talk about College Football Final Four and his Penn State Nitanny Lions ( - ). Tiger Woods Who's Back Of the Week. Football guy of the week ( - ). Coach Dave Wannstedt from FOX Sports joins the show to talk College Coaching, CFB Playoffs and a great Ed Orgeron story from their days together in Miami ( - ). Segments include Kings Stay Kings for Jeff Fisher's new contract, Panic Button for PFT, Stay Woke, and Embrace Debate for Ezekiel Elliot

Coach Dave Wannstedt and Rone on the CFB Playoff and Ed Orgeron

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are coming to you live from an RV that currently smells like a mix of pipe tobacco and green overflow sludge. After a weekend trekking to the MAC and Big Ten Championship games, the energy is high, even if the hygiene is at an all-time low. The guys are joined by Rone, who is fresh off watching his Penn State Nittany Lions pull off a massive comeback, though the selection committee didn't exactly reward them with a playoff spot.

NFL Week 13 and the Playoff Picture

Week 13 gave us a classic Matty Ice meltdown and Jeff Fisher being unable to find his challenge flag, which is just peak Jeff Fisher. Meanwhile, the College Football Playoff field is set, and Big Cat has some thoughts on how the bracket should actually look if we were being fair to the mid-majors.

Loss
Dec 5, 2016
#9966
Big CatBig Cat

My College Football Playoff final four includes Western Michigan

My Final Four, by the way, I don't know if you guys care about it, but it has Clemson, Ohio State, Washington, Western Michigan. And we're just going to give the title to Alabama.

PredictionCFBMediumSarcastic
The final four was Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Washington. Western Michigan did not make it.

PFT naturally took it a step further, suggesting that the committee is overlooking a certain winless professional team that could probably make some noise in the postseason.

Loss
Dec 5, 2016
#9967
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Browns are a dark horse for the College Football Playoff

I think the Browns are a dark horse, too. They can make some noise.

Hot TakeCFBScorchingSarcastic
The Browns are an NFL team and cannot play in the College Football Playoff.

Who's Back and Holiday Outrage

Tiger Woods is officially back (again), but the real star of the week is the annual tradition of people getting mad at things that don't matter. Rone pointed out that the season for being offended by jewelry ads and coffee cups is in full swing.

Void
Dec 5, 2016·Who's Back
#9968
RoneRone

The holiday outrage crowd is officially back

I think the holiday outrage crowd is back. We got people pissed that Zales put a lesbian couple on their holiday ad. We have people pissed that CVS and Macy's aren't more Christmas friendly. Starbucks cups... the war on Christmas crowd.

This is a subjective observation of cultural trends during the holiday season.

Big Cat thinks there is a deeper sociological divide happening here, specifically regarding the color of your caffeine container and how it plays in flyover country.

Void
Dec 5, 2016·Who's Back
#27435
Big CatBig Cat

The Starbucks green cup controversy proves that 'coastal elites' don't understand real Americans

It's the coastal elites, those people in Seattle. They don't know what we want in the middle of the United States. We've spent a weekend in flyover country... and if you hand them a green cup, they're going to blow you away.

This is a satirical commentary on cultural polarization and corporate branding.

Hank is just happy that it's finally snowing, even if it means everyone in the Midwest is about to be miserable until April.

Void
Dec 5, 2016·Who's Back
#9969
HankHank

Snow football is the best football to watch

The Packers game, Bears game. Those are the best games to watch. Snow football. Love it. It's fun to get excited for the first snowfall and then just be miserable for four months straight.

This is an inherently subjective opinion on viewing preferences.

Speaking of office traditions, the arrival of the corporate popcorn tin has sparked a heated debate. While some people want to keep their flavors segregated, Big Cat is a proponent of the salty-and-sweet chaos.

Void
Dec 5, 2016·Who's Back
#9970
Big CatBig Cat

Mixing caramel and cheese popcorn is the correct way to eat it

Oh, I like to eat them both [caramel and cheese popcorn]. Then lick my hand, then put my hand back in.

Food preferences are subjective.

Coach Dave Wannstedt

Recurring guest and absolute legend Dave Wannstedt joined the show from the Omni Hotel lobby to break down the coaching carousel and the playoff field. Coach Wanny, a man of the people, defended the guys who just got the axe at Oregon and Texas, arguing that the modern game doesn't give coaches enough time to actually install a culture.

Void
Dec 5, 2016
#9975
Dave WannstedtDave Wannstedt

You have to give a college coach four years to build a program

I really think you've got to give a guy four years. Because when you go into a job... there's commitments. And so you honor those kids. And they may not fit in offense, defense, scheme-wise to what you're going to do.

This is a subjective philosophy on athletic department management.

He also shared a phenomenal story about Ed Orgeron from their days at the University of Miami. Before a game at LSU, Jimmy Johnson asked Coach O to tell the team what to expect in Baton Rouge. Ed went on a full-blown, French-Cajun screaming rant that left the entire locker room in a state of confused silence.

As for the actual playoff matchups, Wanny isn't high on Washington's chances against the Crimson Tide. He thinks only a few teams have the raw athleticism to stay on the same field as Nick Saban.

Win
Dec 5, 2016
#9974
Dave WannstedtDave Wannstedt

Ohio State and Clemson are the only teams with the speed to match up with Alabama

Athletically they [Ohio State] had the players to match up with Alabama. And I think right now that Clemson fits in that same mold... Ohio State could [match up], and I think Clemson could also.

Clemson defeated Alabama in the 2017 National Championship, proving they had the speed and talent to match up.

Kings Stay Kings and Panic Buttons

In a move that surprised absolutely everyone and no one at the same time, Jeff Fisher received a contract extension. PFT and Big Cat have already mapped out how he will use the 2019 stadium opening to secure another decade of employment. If the coaching thing ever does end, PFT has a few high-level appointments in mind for the mustache.

Loss
Dec 5, 2016
#9976
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jeff Fisher's next job should be Supreme Court Justice or the Pope

We're trying to figure out a fun game to play is what's Jeff Fisher's next job. How can he up this one? The first one is Supreme Court Justice. He basically is a Supreme Court Justice right now... He could be the Pope. Pope Fisher? Yes, Pope Fisher.

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
Fisher never held either role; he was fired by the Rams a week after this episode.

Finally, PFT is officially hovering his hand over the panic button regarding his bet against Jimmy Butler. Big Cat is quick to remind everyone that Butler is carrying the Bulls on his back right now.

Win
Dec 5, 2016·Panic Button
#9977
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler has gotten better every single year of his career

Jimmy Butler has gotten better like every single year of his career. And I know you're a hater... He's been awesome. He is the Bulls team.

Statistically, Butler improved his scoring and all-around game every season from his rookie year until his final season in Chicago.

Just remember: if you see a dick drawn on the telestrator this weekend, it wasn't an accident—it was for the ratings.

Don't forget to subscribe your friends' phones when they leave them unattended.

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More Takes

Void
Dec 5, 2016·Who's Back
#9971
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The popcorn debate will be featured on Mike and Mike within two weeks

I'm going to call my shot. The popcorn debate is going to be featured on Mike and Mike within the next two weeks. Anytime you can introduce a bracket, it's going to do wonders for water cooler talk.

This is a satirical prediction about ESPN's Mike and Mike covering a popcorn debate. The outcome is unverifiable from available records.
Win
Dec 5, 2016
#9972
Dave WannstedtDave Wannstedt

Neither Penn State nor Wisconsin will make the College Football Playoff

No, neither team is going to get in [to the Final Four]. And the committee, let me tell you how this works... they wouldn't have put Michigan at number five if they really were anticipating putting the winner of this game in.

Correct. Penn State won the Big Ten but was ranked #5, missing the playoff. Wisconsin also missed.
Win
Dec 5, 2016
#9973
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Penn State will win the Big Ten Championship game

I like Penn State. I know you didn't ask me, but I'm going to go on the record and say Penn State, and then nothing else changes in the Final Four.

Correct. Penn State won the game and the playoff top four remained unchanged.
Void
Dec 5, 2016
#27434
Dave WannstedtDave Wannstedt

Oregon and Texas should have kept Mark Helfrich and Charlie Strong

I would have kept them both [Mark Helfrich and Charlie Strong], by the way. Absolutely. I really think you've got to give a guy four years.

Both schools moved on to newer coaches (Willie Taggart and Tom Herman) with mixed results, but this is fundamentally an opinion on coaching tenure.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ezekiel Elliott is eating cereal, not soup, in his 'feed me' celebration

I saw somebody say, look at Ezekiel Elliott eating that cereal... he does his little soup celebration every time he gets some yards. I thought it's soup. Nope. It's cereal.

Elliott has confirmed he's simply 'eating,' but has leaned into cereal motifs in marketing, though the original intent was broad hunger.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Ezekiel Elliott's 'feed me' celebration is problematic because of world hunger

This celebration is kind of problematic. A lot of people out there don't have food. They're hungry. They don't have soup. They don't have cereal. Ezekiel Elliott's just out there wasting it. He's basically saying, look how rich I am. I can eat.

This is a satirical moral judgment, not a verifiable fact.
Void
Dec 5, 2016·Stay Woke
#9980
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steve Kerr is directly financing terror by admitting to using marijuana

By buying that marijuana... Steve Kerr is directly financing terror. So I don't know if there's a case to be like a Rico thing they could investigate, the Warriors, but it's not a good look.

This is a satirical accusation.
Win
Dec 5, 2016·Stay Woke
#27436
Big CatBig Cat

Every team that has ever made the College Football Playoff has been a Nike school

Every team that's made the college football playoffs is a Nike school. A little bit of a conspiracy. Turns out every school is a Nike school pretty much.

At the time of the take (Dec 2016), every CFP participant (Bama, Oregon, FSU, OSU, Clemson, MSU, Oklahoma, Washington) was indeed a Nike-sponsored school.
Void
Dec 5, 2016·Stay Woke
#9981
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Announcers are drawing telestrator dicks on purpose to drive ratings

I think that announcers are drawing telestrator dicks on purpose to drive up ratings. Because there's one thing that you can't draw when you're doing a telestrator and that's a dick. And they do it every time. Every single time it's a dick.

While phallic drawings are common accidents, there is no evidence they are intentional rating-drivers.

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