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Former NFL QB Sean Salisbury

Wednesday, August 30, 201715 takes

Matt Stafford is getting paid and the quarterback bubble continues to grow ( - ) . Hot Seat/Cool Throne with incest and Amazon talk ( - ). Mt Rushmore of toys ( - ). Former NFL QB Sean Salisbury joins the show from Houston to talk about Hurricane Harvey, College Football, NFL, and the notorious dick pic that ended his time at ESPN ( - ). Segments include Embrace Debate, PR 101 for the Hamilton Tigercats, Sorry not Sorry, Kings Stay Kings for Jay Cutler's broadcasting career, Fuck That, and Guys on Chicks.

Sean Salisbury on Houston, NFL Quarterbacks, and the ESPN Locker Room

The quarterback bubble is officially making a cha-ching sound as Matthew Stafford just reset the market with a massive extension in Detroit. While the guaranteed money is eye-popping, Big Cat and PFT are more interested in the immediate backlash that comes with being the highest-paid guy in the league.

Win
Aug 30, 2017
#8419
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford is officially on the hot seat after signing his new contract

I love when a quarterback gets a new deal because they are officially, speaking of hot seat cool throne, they are officially on the hot seat because now it's joke season on Matthew Stafford. We saw it with Joe Flacco. We saw it with Jay Cutler. Matt Stafford has probably a year... and every interception he throws comes a tweet, wow, $86 million for this?

Stafford indeed became a lightning rod for criticism in Detroit until he was traded to the Rams and won a Super Bowl, proving the 'overpaid' narrative wrong but the 'hot seat' narrative correct for the time.

It’s the classic NFL paradox where a team is forced to pay a guy top-tier money just to keep the lights on, even if the ceiling feels firmly established. Big Cat has a very specific hierarchy for where Stafford fits in the league landscape.

Void
Aug 30, 2017
#29401
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford is the best of the 'sucky' quarterbacks

I actually always say Matt Stafford, you know my two categories of quarterbacks. It's guys who can win you a Super Bowl and then guys who suck. And Matt Stafford is the best sucky quarterback.

This is a subjective categorization of a player's talent and tier.

While the Lions had to do the deal under duress to avoid starting a guy off the street, the expectations for a Super Bowl run remain a point of contention among the hosts.

Win
Aug 30, 2017
#29397
Big CatBig Cat

The Lions will never win a Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford as their quarterback

I think it's the smart thing to do [signing Stafford], but I also don't think the Lions are going to win a Super Bowl with Matt Stafford. The NFL is so weird like this. You can make a decision that's the right decision while also still knowing ultimately it's not a good thing.

Stafford never won a playoff game with the Lions, let alone a Super Bowl, during his 12 seasons in Detroit.

In a rare moment of optimism for Detroit, PFT is actually buying the hype on what this contract means for the Lions' postseason prospects over the next few seasons.

Loss
Aug 30, 2017
#8420
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Matthew Stafford will lead the Lions to at least one NFC Championship game in the next four years

Matt Stafford over under NFC Championship appearances in the next four years on his contract, 0.5? Over. Really? Yeah, over. Wow. So then that would be a success in my mind.

Stafford never made an NFC Championship game with the Lions; they didn't reach that stage until the 2023 season after he was traded.

Hot Seat and a Very Cool Throne

Hot Seat is podcasters because Jim Harbaugh is launching his own show, which means he’ll likely be more prepared than anyone in the history of the medium. Meanwhile, the Cool Throne belongs to a controversial topic after the Game of Thrones finale: incest. PFT has some thoughts on how the legal system should handle specifically attractive family members.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Incest should be legal if the people involved are attractive enough

There should be a rule against making incest illegal if you're hot enough... every time that you see purebred dog, guess what? That dog's got a shitload of incest in its lineage. If you're above like a nine... you should be allowed to commit incest because those are good genes you got going on.

This is a satirical/subjective opinion and cannot be 'correct' or 'incorrect' in a factual sense, though it is legally incorrect in almost all jurisdictions.

LeBron James is also on the Hot Seat after being challenged to a foot race by world-renowned nerd Malcolm Gladwell. Big Cat thinks the king might actually be in trouble if he accepts the challenge, mainly because nerds have spent their entire lives developing track speed while running away from guys like LeBron.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Malcolm Gladwell would probably beat LeBron James in a long-distance foot race

LeBron got challenged by Malcolm Gladwell to a foot race... These fucking nerds, all they do is they go and find the biggest alpha on the block... they're like, hey, I'll challenge you to this sport that's not a sport and we'll make it really long distance so you get super tired. And I honestly can see Malcolm Gladwell winning. Nerds are always faster because they have to run from their bullies from a young age.

This is a hypothetical about Malcolm Gladwell beating LeBron James in a long-distance race. It was never tested and is an untestable opinion about athletic ability.

Sean Salisbury on Houston and the QB Class

Former NFL quarterback Sean Salisbury joined the show from Houston to provide a boots-on-the-ground look at the devastation from Hurricane Harvey. He didn't hold back on the situation at Joel Osteen’s megachurch, where he personally went to see if the doors were actually locked to those in need.

Void
Aug 30, 2017
#29398
Big CatBig Cat

Joel Osteen only opened his church to hurricane victims because of social media backlash

And it wouldn't have happened [Joel Osteen opening his church] without the backlash. So it did help... If you are a member of the clergy, and you are fabulously, fabulously rich, there's something that feels off about that.

The church opened its doors following intense social media pressure, making this a widely held consensus view.

Once the talk shifted to the gridiron, Salisbury broke down the upcoming crop of college signal-callers. He is exceptionally high on Sam Darnold, even suggesting that the USC star has the "it tangible" that separates the greats from the average starters.

Loss
Aug 30, 2017
#8423
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Sam Darnold will be the best quarterback USC has ever had

He'll be the best quarterback we've ever had there [USC]. I'm serious... I think he's going to be the best college and NFL quarterback USC's ever had.

Darnold did not win a Heisman or reach the heights of Carson Palmer or Caleb Williams at USC, and his NFL career has been disappointing.

He also weighed in on the crosstown rival Josh Rosen and Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph, projecting both as serious NFL talents despite the different ways they carry themselves on and off the field.

Loss
Aug 30, 2017
#8425
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Mason Rudolph will be a first-round NFL draft pick

I think right now of the sneaky quarterbacks who are going to be into the first round by the time the season ends, I think Mason Rudolph is going to be a guy that we look at and say, ah, okay, with the 16th pick of the draft, somebody takes Mason Rudolph.

Mason Rudolph was selected in the 3rd round (76th overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft.

Salisbury also discussed the mentality required to survive the NFL. He believes you can't baby young quarterbacks like Mitchell Trubisky or Deshaun Watson because you need to know immediately if they can handle the mental toll of the professional game.

Void
Aug 30, 2017
#8426
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

NFL teams must start rookie quarterbacks early to find out if they have the 'balls of a burglar'

Don't I want to find out early if my guy's got the balls of a burglar? Because if he can't handle getting hit around and throwing picks... then I don't want him three years from now because that's a character flaw. I want a quarterback that when the dog pees on your leg, your girlfriend likes the other quarterback... and the crowd's booing you... can you pull yourself out of that and win?

This is a football philosophy rather than a verifiable prediction, making it subjective.

Mount Rushmore of Toys and Closing Segments

The guys got nostalgic with a Mount Rushmore of Toys. PFT went with the "gritty" childhood staples like a red kickball, a hose, and a cardboard box. Hank countered with Legos and Bop It, while Big Cat rounded things out with the Super Soaker and the classic over-the-door mini hoop.

In a quick Embrace Debate, the guys analyzed the semantics of Dwyane Wade and LeBron James "going to dinner" versus "meeting for dinner." PFT remains convinced that the intimacy of "going" together suggests a massive NBA shift is on the horizon.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dwayne Wade and LeBron James are definitely planning a team-up because they are 'going' to dinner

I would say that going to dinner is more intimate than meeting for dinner. Because going to dinner implies that you're going there... Every time you go to dinner, you have to meet somebody for dinner. But every time you meet for dinner, you're not necessarily going to dinner together. I think the act of going is way, way more intimate than just meeting... Not just friends. You don't just go to dinner.

Wade did eventually join LeBron in Cleveland later that year (September 2017) after a buyout from Chicago, so the 'plotting' suspicion was correct.

Finally, the show wrapped with a tribute to the king of not caring, Jay Cutler, who admitted he did zero prep work for his brief broadcasting stint before the Dolphins called.

Remember to donate to the Red Cross for Houston relief if you can.

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Loss
Aug 30, 2017
#8424
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Josh Rosen is built for the NFL and will save Jim Mora's job

I love [Josh Rosen] because not only does he think he is good, but he thinks it and he knows it. I think he's kind of set up for the NFL. He's got to play well to save some jobs like Jim Mora's job.

Jim Mora was fired in November 2017, just months after this take. Rosen was a top-10 pick but became a notable NFL bust.
Win
Aug 30, 2017
#29399
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

The Texas Longhorns are not a nine-win team yet and are at least a year away from contending

I don't think they're [Texas] a nine-win team this year. I think they're about a year away... I don't think they're a top-ten team. They may be a little bit overrated.

Texas went 7-6 in 2017, falling short of 9 wins, but won 10 games the following year.
Win
Aug 30, 2017
#29400
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Mitch Trubisky is already a better quarterback than Mike Glennon

In truth, you guys damn well know Mitch Trubisky's a better quarterback than Mike Glennon. We know that.

Glennon was benched after four games and never started again for Chicago, while Trubisky at least led them to the playoffs.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jay Cutler will get injured within two months of starting for the Dolphins

I guess we're going to have to wait at least another two months until Jay gets hurt... So two months and he's going to get hurt.

Cutler suffered cracked ribs on October 22, 2017, which was almost exactly two months after this prediction (August 30).

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