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Frank Kaminsky and Spencer Hawes 11/07/16

Monday, November 7, 201615 takes

NFL Week 9 Recap with the fastest 2 minutes in football ( - ). Election coming and should Donald Trump lose his man card for getting his twitter taken away from him ( - ). Tiger Woods memorial Who's Back of the week. Football Guy of the Week. Spencer Hawes and Frank Kaminsky visit the guys in studio to give an update on the conglomerate and talk about what it's like being white guys in the NBA. Segments include the debut of "Is he still alive?", "Spinzone", "Kicker's Psychiatrist", "Sabermetrics" for the Cubs parade. "Uhhh Hey JJ", "hmmmm", and "Not to brag but"

Frank Kaminsky and Spencer Hawes on the Conglomerate, White NBA Players, and NFL Week 9

We have officially turned the calendar over to November, which means the Chicago Cubs are World Series champions, the sun is choking in the clutch gene department by setting at 4:30 PM, and the NFL has pivoted from breast cancer awareness to pretending to care about the troops for a month. Big Cat and PFT are back from Chicago after a historic weekend, while Hank is barely clinging to life after a trip to Baton Rouge for LSU-Alabama.

The Return of the Raiders and Salute to Service

NFL Week 9 saw the Raiders climb to the top of the AFC West, a development that Big Cat is fully embracing as a win for the entire sport of football.

Win
Nov 7, 2016·Who's Back
#785
Big CatBig Cat

The Raiders are officially back.

The Raiders. The Raiders are officially back. And it's fun. The Raiders are like Notre Dame or maybe even the Yankees where everything's more fun when they're back.

The Raiders finished 12-4 in 2016, making the playoffs for the first time since 2002. However, they regressed shortly after.

As the league transitions into November, the guys noticed the sudden shift in sideline aesthetics. PFT has some concerns about the coaching staff's new wardrobe choices during the league's 'Salute to Service' initiative.

Void
Nov 7, 2016
#783
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL coaches wearing windbreakers with flags during Salute to Service month is 'stolen valor.'

I like the windbreakers that the coaches are wearing on the sidelines. They have their name and the American flag on it. It's basically a military uniform that they're wearing. So you could consider it to be stolen valor.

This is inherently a satirical opinion, though coaches do wear this gear.

Since it's Movember, PFT also clarified that he will be participating in his own version of the tradition, mainly because his facial hair genetics are a flat zero.

Void
Nov 7, 2016
#28228
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am celebrating 'Pubesimber' instead of Movember because I can't grow good facial hair.

It's a rough month for me and guys like me that are faceballed that don't have the genetic blessings to be able to grow good facial hair. So since you guys are out there celebrating Movember, I actually celebrate Pubesimber... grow out the winter coat.

Subjective personal choice for a bit.

Football Guy of the Week and Who's Back

Will Muschamp locked up the Football Guy of the Week early by placing actual mousetraps around the South Carolina facility to warn his players about 'trap games.' It’s the kind of literal motivation that makes the sport great. Not to be outdone, Norv Turner resigned from the Vikings, which Big Cat interprets as the ultimate sacrifice.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Norv Turner is a football guy for 'falling on the sword' and quitting to help his team.

Norv Turner doesn't look like a football guy for quitting, right? But... He said that he felt like he was holding the team back. So he killed himself for the betterment of the team. Fell on the sword.

Subjective interpretation of 'football guy' behavior.

In Who’s Back, the guys discussed the growing rumors that Chip Kelly might be eyeing a return to his old stomping grounds in Eugene after a dismal run with the 49ers.

Loss
Nov 7, 2016·Who's Back
#786
Big CatBig Cat

Chip Kelly will leave the San Francisco 49ers for the Oregon head coaching job.

So Chip Kelly rumors are back, and I think he's going to go to Oregon. Then again, he did say he's not interested in it, and as we know, as Nick Saban proved to us... if a coach in the NFL says they're not going to college, that means they're not going to college.

Chip Kelly stayed with the 49ers through the end of the 2016 season and then took a year off before joining UCLA in 2017. He did not return to Oregon in 2016/17.

Frank Kaminsky and Spencer Hawes in Studio

Recurring guests and members of 'The Conglomerate' Frank Kaminsky and Spencer Hawes joined the show in person to talk about the Hornets' hot start and the struggles of being white guys in the NBA. Spencer was feeling confident about their record early on.

Win
Nov 7, 2016
#787
Spencer HawesSpencer Hawes

The Charlotte Hornets will be 4-1 by the time this interview airs on Monday.

Actually, we're probably not going to have this interview until Monday, so what's your record going to be then? [Spencer Hawes]: Probably 4-1.

The Hornets beat the Nets 99-95 on Nov 4, 2016, to reach a 4-1 record.

They discussed the 'athletic pinnacle' of white basketball players, Sam Dekker, and how he set the movement back several decades by tripping over his own feet and hitting himself in the face with the ball. This led PFT to wonder how a hypothetical white-vs-black All-Star game would actually play out.

Void
Nov 7, 2016
#28230
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A team of all-star white guys would beat an all-star team of black guys because of 'grit' and 'taking charges.'

Who do you guys think would win, a team of all-star white guys or black guys?... Like I said, a lot of grit on our side. Miles and miles of heart. You guys could just take charges every possession.

Purely hypothetical satirical scenario.

Spencer, a proud Washington Husky, also addressed the first College Football Playoff rankings, arguing that being slighted is actually the best thing that could happen to his team.

Win
Nov 7, 2016
#788
Spencer HawesSpencer Hawes

Being ranked outside the top four in the College Football Playoff provides motivation for the Washington Huskies.

I actually think that it's going to provide us some good motivation being outside of the top four. Don't let the kids get complacent. Don't let them start reading all the headlines. Flip the script on them a little bit. Control our own destiny.

Washington finished the season 12-1, won the Pac-12, and made the College Football Playoff as the #4 seed.

The conversation took a turn toward the future of PFT’s gender identity, as he put everything on the line regarding the ceiling of Bulls star Jimmy Butler.

Win
Nov 7, 2016
#790
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If Jimmy Butler wins NBA MVP, I will undergo a sex change and become 'Marlins Woman'.

If Jimmy Butler does somehow win an MVP, PFT is going to get a sex change. [PFT]: I'm going to become Marlins woman, officially, yeah. That's how confident I am that this will never happen.

Jimmy Butler has never won the NBA MVP award.

Is He Still Alive? and Sabermetrics

The show debuted a brand-new segment called 'Is He Still Alive?' which was born from a collective realization that nobody was quite sure if Hank Aaron was still with us (he is). The first round featured an emotional rollercoaster regarding Liz Taylor and the confirmation that Bob Barker is still neutering pets and staying alive.

Finally, Big Cat took a victory lap for Chicago's massive World Series parade, which apparently saw 5.5 million people descend on the city.

Void
Nov 7, 2016
#792
Big CatBig Cat

Chicago is the 'Parade King' city with the best fans in the world.

All I know is that we parade cocked everyone else... Chicago Parade Kings, best fans... Chicago one-upped it [Tampa Bay].

The 5.5 million estimate for the Cubs parade was a record for a sports gathering at the time, though such estimates are notoriously imprecise.

While the parade was a success, Big Cat remains skeptical of Anthony Rizzo's decision to give the final out ball to the team's owner.

Loss
Nov 7, 2016
#794
Big CatBig Cat

Anthony Rizzo gave the World Series ball to Cubs owner Tom Ricketts to suck up for a new contract.

Kind of a nice gesture, but like, dude, you're just giving away $2 million? Weird, right? Well, maybe Anthony Rizzo signed a contract... He's wildly underpaid. So maybe he's doing a little brown-nosing to get the owner to rip up the contract and give him some more money.

While Rizzo was eventually traded in 2021, he did not receive a massive 'rip up the contract' extension immediately following this gesture.

Between the Cubs winning and PFT single-handedly funding a hospital through Kyle Rudolph t-shirts, it’s a great time to be a fan of the program.

See you in Canada if the election goes south.

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More Takes

Loss
Nov 7, 2016
#789
Frank KaminskyFrank Kaminsky

Wisconsin will beat Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship Game after Ohio State beats Michigan.

Ohio State is going to beat Michigan, then meet us [Wisconsin] in the Big Ten championship game, and Wisconsin's going to beat Ohio State.

Ohio State beat Michigan, but Wisconsin played Penn State in the Big Ten Championship (and lost). Ohio State made the playoff without playing in the conference title game.
Loss
Nov 7, 2016
#791
Spencer HawesSpencer Hawes

Spencer Hawes is on pace to record 55 dunks this season.

I actually told Frank before the game I'm on pace for about 55 dunks.

Spencer Hawes had 13 dunks total in the 2016-17 season, significantly missing his 'pace' of 55.
Void
Nov 7, 2016
#793
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Steve Bartman should decide when he returns to the spotlight, not the media.

The media has a weird fascination with getting Steve Bartman back involved with the Cubs now. It's so stupid... Steve Bartman gets to decide if he wants to come back, not the other way around.

This is a subjective moral/ethical stance on media behavior.
Push
Nov 7, 2016
#795
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

PFT Commenter effectively built a hospital by giving Kyle Rudolph the nickname 'Big Country.'

They printed up a bunch of t-shirts... and they're using the concept to raise money for the Kyle Rudolph's End Zone campaign, an effort to build a state-of-the-heart... space at Masonic Children's Hospital. So Ipso facto, I kind of built a hospital.

The nickname and T-shirts did indeed help raise money for the hospital, but claiming he 'built it' is a comedic stretch.

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