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Jon Gruden, Week 8 Picks And Preview, Commanders vs Bears, Rams Are Back + Fyre Fest of The Week

Friday, October 25, 202419 takes

The Rams are back and looking frisky with Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua back in the lineup. The Vikings don't need to worry, just stop playing the Lions (-). We're going for the Uncrustables record (-). Week 8 picks and preview and the podcast is at war with Patriots/Jets and the Bears/Commanders with an honest discussion about Caleb vs Jayden for the first time (-). We do our picks and TD parlay and fantasy fuccbois (-). Jon Gruden joins the show to talk football, being Bobby Knight's ball boy, coaching, his facility, favorite plays and tons more (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (-).

Jon Gruden on QB Guts, Jared Goff as Montana, and Week 8 NFL Preview

The Rams might be frisky again after a Thursday night win over the Vikings, but the real fireworks this week are coming from the Barstool office's new obsession with Uncrustables. After finding out the Denver Broncos lead the NFL by crushing 700 of these things a week, PFT and Big Cat have decided to turn the office into a high-performance snack laboratory. PFT is convinced there is a nutritional upside to the madness.

Loss
Oct 25, 2024
#15557
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You can actually lose weight by eating a diet of Uncrustables

I actually think you could lose weight eating Uncrustables. Peanut butter's got tons of protein in it. Bread is the biggest part of the food pyramid, which is really, really healthy and scientific.

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Nutritionally, eating a high volume of processed sandwiches is unlikely to lead to weight loss for most people.

Big Cat isn't just stopping at casual consumption. He’s promising a dedicated Uncrustables refrigerator and an office-wide email to ensure the Barstool staff smashes the league record for peanut butter and jelly intake.

Loss
Oct 25, 2024
#24885
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Barstool office will eat over 1,000 Uncrustables in a single week

I predict we're gonna be in the like thousand ranges. ... I will make sure that we do not run out of Uncrustables at all for the week. And we'll keep track. Yeah. For this office. I'll send out an email. I'll be like, it's my, I I'm, we're doing a study. Eat as many Uncrustables as you want.

The office attempted the challenge in late October 2024, but reportedly fell short of the 1,000 mark.

The Battle for Rookie Supremacy

The vibe for this Sunday’s Bears-Commanders game is reaching a fever pitch. Big Cat and PFT are officially at war over their rookie quarterbacks. While Jayden Daniels is dealing with a rib injury, Big Cat is standing by his reporting that the Commanders star will suit up, mostly because he wants to see his guy Caleb Williams outplay him head-to-head.

Win
Oct 25, 2024·Picks
#24887
Big CatBig Cat

I stand by my reporting: Jayden Daniels will play against the Bears

I reported on Monday that he was gonna play. So he's guaranteed play. ... I stand by my reporting. He has to play.

Jayden Daniels did indeed start and play the entire game against the Bears.

PFT has seen enough from Daniels to declare him the next great thing in the NFC, bordering on hyperbole that only a truly desperate Commanders fan could produce.

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15566
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jayden Daniels is already a top 2 quarterback in the NFC and a top 5 all-time prospect

I think Jayden Daniels is gonna be the best quarterback in the history of the Redskins or Commanders. I think he's gonna be the best quarterback in the NFC. He might already be the best quarterback in the NFC... Probably top five [all time potential]. I think Jayden Daniels is like absolutely the best quarterback that I've ever watched in my entire life.

Ranking a rookie in the top 5 of all time is hyperbole typical of the show, but his status in the NFC is a verifiable opinion over time.

Big Cat, however, is playing the long game. He’s not arguing about who has more Rookie of the Week awards right now. He’s looking at the ceiling and the future of the franchise, and he's doubling down on the kid in Chicago.

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15565
Big CatBig Cat

Caleb Williams is better than Jayden Daniels going forward and will have the better career

I honestly think that we're all gonna become winners. And I'm gonna say it... He [Caleb Williams] is so much better than Jayden Daniels. I did not say Caleb Williams played so much better [this year]. I said he's so much better... I think Caleb Williams going forward is going to be the better quarterback. I'm talking about the future.

Career trajectory is inherently subjective and takes years to resolve.

Gruden Grinders and Old School Ball

Coach Jon Gruden joined the show from his Fired Football Coaches Association (FFCA) facility to talk about why he still wakes up at 4:00 AM to grind tape. He hasn't lost an ounce of his intensity, especially when it comes to the way the modern game is being played. Gruden isn't a fan of the RPO-heavy systems that he thinks are making the NFL look a little too much like high school ball.

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15568
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

The modern RPO-heavy NFL is 'Friday night high school offense' that gets quarterbacks killed

I don't like passing plays with the offensive line run blocking. I don't like seeing quarterbacks getting their ass knocked off because of this ridiculous protection offense that I'm watching. That's what RPO stands for me... I don't wanna see Friday night offense in high school all day Saturday and then see it on Sunday. I wanna see these NFL quarterbacks drop back to pass, throw an array of routes with different route trees and audibles.

Whether RPOs are inherently bad is a subjective matter of coaching philosophy.

When looking at the current landscape, Gruden was surprisingly high on the Detroit Lions. He spent time with them recently and came away thinking Dan Campbell’s quarterback is operating at an elite, historic level.

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15567
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Jared Goff is playing like Joe Montana

I don't even think it's close. I did a thing with the Detroit Lions last week. I think Jared Goff is starting to look like Joe Montana to me. He plays with continuous movement. He completes almost every single pass. He's tough as hell. He has continuity in the same system... I got Goff way up there on my list.

This is a subjective comparison between an active player and a legend.

Gruden also shared some incredible stories about his time as Bobby Knight's ball boy and his respect for Mike Tomlin's ability to keep a locker room together. He even touched on the greatest of all time, Jerry Rice, noting that his greatness wasn't built on cheap touches or easy schemes.

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15569
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Jerry Rice is the greatest player of all time because he never caught a bubble screen

Jerry Rice [is number one all time]. The thing that Jerry Rice... you hear about some of these receivers now, you know, their stats and all this. Jerry Rice never caught a bubble screen. I don't know if Jerry Rice caught three quick screens either. He didn't want those routes. He was running patterns, man. And the greatest thing about Jerry Rice is I really believe he loved the misery.

GOAT debates are subjective.

Week 8 Picks and Fyre Fest

Turning to the Sunday slate, Big Cat is looking for a massive let-down spot for the Detroit Lions. They’ve been the darlings of the league for two weeks, and he thinks the Titans might keep it closer than the double-digit spread suggests.

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Oct 25, 2024·Picks
#15563
Big CatBig Cat

The Titans will cover +11.5 against the Lions in a major let-down spot

The Lions for the first time in franchise history are now the odds on favorites to win the NFC... This is the first time that they are a double digit favorite under Dan Campbell. They just came off a very emotional two weeks where they killed the Cowboys, beat the Vikings... I'm not saying that the Lions are gonna lose this game. I'm just saying 11 and a half is a lot of points... it's a let down spot of let down spots.

The Lions blew out the Titans 52-14 on Oct 27, 2024. The Titans did not cover.

Meanwhile, the vibes in Philadelphia are tenuous at best. Max is riding a one-game high after beating the Giants, but he's already planning the Super Bowl parade if they can knock off Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

Win
Oct 25, 2024
#15559
MaxMax

If the Eagles beat the Bengals, they are winning the Super Bowl

If we win this one though, I'm all the way back. Okay. If, if we win this one, I'm thinking soupy.

The Eagles beat the Bengals in Week 8 (37-17) and went on to win Super Bowl LIX. Max's prediction that an Eagles win over the Bengals meant they were Super Bowl-bound proved correct.

In New England, the Jerod Mayo era is already under the microscope. After the coach called his team "soft," the guys debated if the locker room would rally or if the wheels were totally off. Hank thinks the writing might already be on the wall for the first-year coach.

Win
Oct 25, 2024·Picks
#15564
HankHank

The Patriots should move on from Jerod Mayo after this season

I don't, I think that's unfair to, to coach Mayo to do this year, but I think it's probably smart to move on after the season. ... I think the wheels have completely fallen off.

The Patriots did move on from Jerod Mayo after the 2024 season. He was fired on January 5, 2025, immediately after the season finale, finishing 4-13.

The episode wrapped with a classic Fyre Fest segment, featuring Hank nearly missing a 6:00 AM flight and PFT’s recurring struggle with ordering Uber Eats to the Barstool office instead of his own house.

At least if PFT keeps sending food to the office, the Barstool staff will have something to wash down those 1,000 Uncrustables.

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More Takes

Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15555
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams would win a trade sending Matthew Stafford to the Vikings for Sam Darnold

There were floating rumors out there about Matthew Stafford being traded for Sam Darnold. Which would've been insane if that had happened. I was, as a fan of chaos, I was hoping that that would happen before the game because that we'll never see that again. And honestly, I think that the Rams would win that trade.

The trade never happened, so the value cannot be verified, but most analysts would favor Stafford over Darnold at that time.
Void
Oct 25, 2024
#15561
MaxMax

Lane Johnson, Reggie White, Brian Dawkins, and Jason Kelce are the Mount Rushmore of Eagles players

If I had to pick, I would say Reggie White, Brian Dawkins, Lane Johnson, Jason Kelce. [They] are just legends.

Mount Rushmores are subjective and can never be definitively proven correct or incorrect.
Loss
Oct 25, 2024
#15562
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL owners should force Jimmy Haslam to sell the Browns for ruining the guaranteed contract market

Jimmy Haslam giving Deshaun [Watson] that guaranteed contract pissed everybody off. In the NFL... I think that there's a chance, I'm not saying it's a high chance, but there is a chance that the other owners turn on Haslam because of what he did with the contract and set that precedent. I hope for Cleveland fans that they get to experience that... he should sell the team as just a fan of the sport.

As of late 2024, there is no evidence the NFL is forcing Jimmy Haslam to sell.
Loss
Oct 25, 2024·Picks
#24886
Big CatBig Cat

The Dolphins are back and will beat the Cardinals

I like the Dolphins in this game [vs Cardinals]... I think this is the week we're gonna be like dolphins back.

The Dolphins lost to the Cardinals 28-27 on October 27, 2024.
Loss
Oct 25, 2024·Picks
#24888
Big CatBig Cat

I like the Cowboys in the 'injury bowl' against the 49ers

I like the Cowboys in this game [vs Niners]. ... Mike McCarthy off the buy is pretty good too.

The 49ers defeated the Cowboys 30-24.
Open
Big CatBig Cat

Bryce Maximus James is guaranteed to play in the NBA

My stardom is Bryce Maximus James. 'cause guess what? He's gonna be in the NBA at some point. I'm gonna call my shot right now. ... Feels like he's gonna get drafted and get in the NBA. The kid don't know. I just got a feeling about this one.

Bryce James is a highly touted prospect, but he is still in high school and has yet to reach draft eligibility.
Void
Oct 25, 2024
#24890
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Mike Tomlin is a great coach because he is a consistent motivator and not a 'basket case'

I think number one, he is a great communicator. He is a great motivator and he is very consistent and he is not a basket case. ... Nobody's a better competitor than Tomlin. He is a guy that'll fight you till the end, whether you wanna fight or not.

This is a subjective assessment of coaching quality.
Void
Oct 25, 2024
#24891
Jon GrudenJon Gruden

Drake May has a long way to go because the Patriots have no firepower at receiver or a good offensive line

When it comes to Drake May, I just, I think they have a, a long way to go with their offense. They really don't have much firepower at receiver. They don't really have a great offensive line and they're playing behind a little bit.

This is a subjective analysis of a team's offensive personnel.

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