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Marlins Man and Foul Ball Guy 07/06/2016

Wednesday, July 6, 201616 takes

The guys recap Big Cat's adventure in the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Championship, the fight with PETA and how sick he felt afterwards. Kevin Durant is discussed as well as the Mount Rushmore of current Golden State Warriors. Special guests Foul Ball Guy and Marlins Man join the show separately to break down their side of the showdown at Ft Bragg aka the hottest internet story of the year, as well as a potential charity boxing match for the troops. Segments include PR 101, "Thoughts and Prayers" for Johnny Cueto's dead horse and Ciara on her wedding night and "Ya Think/No Duh". The show ends with a discussion of Rick Reilly's obsession with Kate Upton and a Fight promo from friend of the podcast @TrillBallins

Marlins Man and Foul Ball Guy Face Off over Fort Bragg

Big Cat has survived the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Championship, though his digestive system might never be the same. After stuffing 12 wieners into his face on national television while PETA protesters doused him in fake blood, he’s back to recap the salt-induced trauma. While he’s proud of the performance, he admitted that if the betting limits were higher, his competitive integrity might have been compromised.

Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21040
Big CatBig Cat

I would have 'Pete Rose'd' the hot dog contest and thrown it if I could have bet on my own under in Las Vegas

I actually made some texts. I was hoping that somehow it ended up on a real sports book in Vegas. We could have put some real money down, and I would have Pete Rose the hell out of that tournament. But alas, you could only win about like 200 bucks on prop bets. So I had to give it my all.

This is a hypothetical statement about his own past behavior.

The salt levels were so high that Big Cat didn't have a bowel movement for 30 hours, but he's finally on the other side of the physical toll. He’s officially retiring from the competitive eating circuit, leaving the future to the true professionals like Joey Chestnut or perhaps the Golics.

Loss
Jul 6, 2016
#5136
Big CatBig Cat

I will never compete in the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest again

I've survived to tell my tale. I'll never do it again. But it was a great experience to have.

Big Cat broke this vow by competing in the 2024 Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest.

The KD Superteam and the Death of Retweets

Kevin Durant decided to upstage America’s birthday by joining the Golden State Warriors, and Big Cat and PFT are handling it with their usual level of measured nuance. Big Cat views Durant as a modern-day Benedict Arnold for turning the NBA into a two-team league.

Win
Jul 6, 2016
#5138
Big CatBig Cat

The biggest takeaway from Kevin Durant's move is that the NBA now only has two teams

The biggest takeaway is it sucks for the NBA as a whole that there's basically only two teams.

The Warriors and Cavaliers met in the next two consecutive NBA Finals (2017, 2018), confirming the lack of variety at the top.

PFT offered a contrarian view, suggesting that adding another superstar might actually create a "too many cooks" situation in the Bay Area.

Loss
Jul 6, 2016
#5137
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant might not improve the Warriors because there are too many cooks in the kitchen

I'm actually going to go out on a limb and say that Kevin Durant might not really improve the Warriors that much. Yeah, he's a really good player... You got a lot of cooks in the kitchen now. You need some role players.

Durant's addition turned the Warriors into a historic dynasty, winning the next two NBA titles.

The guys also discussed the influx of social media videos featuring parents filming their children crying over KD leaving Oklahoma City. Big Cat pointed out that in the modern era, children are essentially just content farms for their parents.

Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21041
Big CatBig Cat

There is no point in having children in 2016 unless you can get retweets out of them

There's no reason to have kids in 2016 unless you can get some retweets out of them. Kids, when you get down to it, if they're not making content for you, like why did you even have sex? ... If you have a child that's not cute enough to cry on camera for retweets, what's even the point of having the kid?

This is a satirical commentary on social media culture.

The Marlins Man vs. Foul Ball Guy Civil War

The heart of the episode is the brewing feud between two of baseball's most recognizable civilians: Laurence Leavy, better known as Marlins Man, and Zack Hample, the man who has turned catching foul balls into a science. The conflict stems from Hample attending the Fort Bragg game, which was intended for military members only. Marlins Man didn't hold back, calling Hample a "peon" and a liar.

Push
Jul 6, 2016
#5140
Marlins ManMarlins Man

Zack Hample is a 100% liar regarding how he obtained his Fort Bragg ticket

I decided to tell the truth and call out the liar and his friends and his family. ... [Zack Hample] is [a liar] absolutely, positively, 100%. And I've given him an opportunity to come clean, and like say, I'm sorry, you know, I made a mistake... He needs to say it because in about a couple of hours, he's going to be proven to be a 100% liar.

Hample eventually admitted to seeking tickets via money, though the specifics of his ultimate entry remained a point of major contention. Marlins Man's 'proof' was widely debated.

Marlins Man has a very high opinion of his place in the sporting landscape, claiming to be the blueprint for the non-athlete celebrity. He even compared his arrival at Wrigley Field to the British Invasion.

Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21042
Marlins ManMarlins Man

My reception at Cubs games is comparable to when the Beatles showed up at Shea Stadium

I was in Chicago for the Dodgers-Cubs. They swarmed me. They overwhelmed me with kindness and love. They were chanting, 'Marlins Man, Marlins Man' between the innings... I go, are you kidding? Watch what's going to happen. It's going to be like when the Beatles showed up at Shea Stadium. And it happened.

While he was likely popular at the game, comparing it to the Beatles is a subjective exaggeration of his own celebrity.

Not one to be outdone in a war of words, Hample joined the show to defend his honor. He claimed that Marlins Man’s sudden "respect for the troops" was actually a pivot after he failed to secure his own tickets to the game. Hample also pointed out the fundamental flaw in Marlins Man's ball-snagging strategy.

Win
Jul 6, 2016
#5143
Zack HampleZack Hample

You can't catch home runs when you sit in the first row behind home plate like Marlins Man

If he wants to talk it out and have lunch... I would even go to a game with him. But I don't want to sit in the legend seats at Yankee Stadium because you can't catch a home run when you're sitting in the first row behind home plate. Of course not. I would gladly help Marlins man catch a baseball game.

Mathematically and physically, home runs do not land directly behind home plate, so Hample is factually correct about catch probability in those specific seats.

PR 101 and Thoughts and Prayers

In a special PR 101 for Big Cat, PFT suggested that the best way to handle the PETA blood-throwing incident is to lean into it. By becoming a vegan, Big Cat could potentially unlock a whole new revenue stream of advocacy money.

Void
Jul 6, 2016·PR 101
#21045
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Big Cat should become a vegan as a PR move to become the 'Subway Jared' of PETA

I think Big Cat needs to become vegan. You need to say, 'You know that whole throwing blood on me and talking shit to me thing? It worked. I'm a vegan now.' Good job. ... You would be the Subway Jared of PETA. You would be their biggest success story and nothing bad could ever come from that.

The advice is satirical and not meant to be taken literally.

Thoughts and prayers were sent to Johnny Cueto’s horse, Popeye, who was memorialized on Instagram in a way only Johnny Cueto could. PFT also offered some premature support for Ciara as she prepares for her wedding night with the famously celibate Russell Wilson.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Russell Wilson's sex with Ciara on their wedding night will be fast and furious because of his long celibacy

Russell has not had sex in a long time. He's not going to be, how shall we put, he's not going to be gentle with you. He's not going to last long. Silver lining. Spin zone. It's going to be fast. It's going to be furious. It's not going to be fun. Russell is going to be having sex like somebody who can get shot at any time.

Inherently unverifiable personal matter.

Finally, the guys checked in on Rick Reilly, who has apparently spent the last four years workshoping jokes about Kate Upton and her hypothetical anatomy. PFT, ever the man of the people, disagreed with Reilly’s assessment of a certain science-fiction trope.

Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21046
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rick Reilly is wrong to say a third breast is unappealing; I think there's something attractive about it

To say that there's nothing at all attractive about having a third boob, I'm going to disagree with you [Rick Reilly]. I think that there's something attractive. We could debate this maybe, but it seems like Rick is really going out on a limb by saying that. I think that he's wrong.

Attractiveness is entirely a matter of personal opinion.

If we're lucky, the troops will finally get the charity boxing match they deserve between an orange-clad lawyer and a guy with a backpack full of baseballs.

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More Takes

Loss
Jul 6, 2016
#5139
Big CatBig Cat

I hope the Cavaliers beat the Warriors again next year so David West stays stuck losing every year

I hope the Cavs beat the Warriors again next year. Then David West goes to the Cavs. And then the Warriors beat the Cavs. And he's just stuck losing like every single year.

David West won the NBA championship with the Warriors in 2017 and 2018.
Void
Jul 6, 2016
#5141
Marlins ManMarlins Man

I am ground zero for sports stars and the first sports celebrity who wasn't an athlete

I was actually told by a reporter from Sports Illustrated when he interviewed me, he said, you're the first sports star. I mean, what the hell is a sports star? Star for sports. You're the first one. You're the first guy to become a sports celebrity that wasn't an athlete. ... You are ground zero for sports stars.

While he was a major viral sensation, 'superfans' like the Rainbow Wig guy (Rolen Stewart) or various team mascots/icons preceded him, though his individual brand was unique for the social media era.
Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21043
Marlins ManMarlins Man

I cannot stand Justin Verlander's girlfriend, Kate Upton, because she refused to sign an autograph for a girl in a wheelchair

I cannot stand his [Verlander's] girlfriend because of what she did... She was at a game, and she refused to sign autographs for a girl in a wheelchair who was disabled, and it was her birthday because she said, 'I'm not signing.' ... When she got up, I stood up and booed, and the whole section stood up and booed when she left. But Justin Verlander, they got shelled in the next inning.

The anecdote is a personal claim that cannot be verified but expresses a firm negative opinion.
Void
Jul 6, 2016
#21044
Marlins ManMarlins Man

Zack Hample shouldn't cry about my 'war' against him because Hiroshima wouldn't have happened without Pearl Harbor

When you don't like my Hiroshima you, remember you started the war. That's a Harry Truman quote, I think. Hiroshima would have never happened if you didn't do Pearl Harbor. Remember that when you're crying about my war.

This is an absurd metaphorical comparison that cannot be evaluated for literal correctness.
Void
Jul 6, 2016
#5142
Zack HampleZack Hample

Marlins Man was only complaining about not getting into the Fort Bragg game, not skipping it out of respect

I asked him, the first thing I asked him before the game was, hey, are you going to Fort Bragg? He said nothing about respecting the military. All he did was complain about how he couldn't get in and how he does so much to promote Sunday night baseball and Major League Baseball. But MLB and the Marlins are being mean and they won't let him in. ... So for him to now suddenly be bashing me for going is just quite frankly bizarre.

This is a 'he said, he said' situation about a private conversation, making it subjective without outside evidence.

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