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Matt Damon And Casey Affleck, Mt Rushmore Of Dumb Things We Used To Think + Football Is Back

Friday, August 2, 202426 takes

Football is back and it’s time to learn the new kickoff rules. We talk Olympics and Embiid playing zero minutes in Game 2 for Team USA(-). Mt Rushmore of dumb things we used to think(-). Matt Damon and Casey Affleck join the show to talk about their new movie The Instigators, making it in the movie business, their Mt Rushmore of Boston athletes, and tons more(-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(-)

Matt Damon and Casey Affleck on The Instigators and Boston Sports

Football is officially back with the Hall of Fame game, even if we’re only watching guys who will be selling insurance in three weeks. Big Cat and PFT are ready for the grind, though PFT is already setting a dangerous precedent for the gambling year ahead by refusing to acknowledge the reality of preseason scoring.

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Aug 2, 2024
#11072
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is unpatriotic to take the under on the NFL Hall of Fame game

So great to hear the music. So great to bet the over, which I'm probably gonna lose, but I'm gonna take it anyways because it's unpatriotic to take the under on the Hall of Fame game.

The 2024 Hall of Fame game (Bears vs. Texans) was called off early due to rain with the score at 21-17. Depending on the line (usually mid-30s), the over likely hit or was a push, but the sentiment remains subjective.

Beyond the Hall of Fame game, the guys caught up on the quarterback market. Big Cat gave his stamp of approval to the Packers' massive investment in Jordan Love, noting that when you find the guy, you pay him.

Open
Aug 2, 2024
#11075
Big CatBig Cat

Jordan Love deserves every dollar of the massive contract extension he received from the Packers

Jordan Love got paid and he made a lot of money and Tua got paid. He made a lot of money... [Jordan Love] deserves every dollar that he got.

Love's performance throughout the life of the contract will determine its value, but at the time of signing, he became one of the highest-paid players ever.

They also touched on the Olympics, specifically the baffling rotation decisions by Steve Kerr that left Joel Embiid on the bench for a full game. Max sent in a heated video from Paris defending his Sixers big man, insisting that the DNP-CD was purely a tactical masterpiece rather than a reflection of Embiid's conditioning.

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Aug 2, 2024
#11079
MaxMax

Joel Embiid is still a top three player on Team USA

He's still the top three player on this team. Steve Kerr has said that himself. Sometimes there's matchup things and guys who don't know Ball are going to try and criticize Joelle Embiid... he's gonna drop 30 against Puerto Rico.

Embiid did not drop 30 against Puerto Rico (he had 15 points), and most analysts would place LeBron, Steph, and KD above him in performance during the games.

Mt. Rushmore of Dumb Things We Used To Think

This was an all-timer. The guys got deep into the childhood logic that shaped their worldviews, covering everything from the mechanics of reruns to the actual biology of reproduction. PFT admitted he spent way too long believing that if he just kept digging in his backyard, he’d eventually pop up in the middle of a street in Beijing.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I used to think that if you dug a deep enough hole in the ground, you would eventually reach China

If you dug deep enough you could reach China. I honestly thought that I could... every kid and I I was probably is is that wrong? ... I looked this up a couple months ago. It's actually embarrassing how shallow the deepest hole ever dug is.

Physically impossible due to the Earth's core and the fact that digging straight down from the US would lead to the Indian Ocean, not China.

Hank contributed some absolute gems, including a revelation about how he viewed physical intimacy based on 90s movie editing.

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HankHank

I used to think that kissing was the same thing as having sex

Kissing equals sex... that I thought for a long time. That's a really good one. That's how you thought babies were made... whether you say sex or go, they're kissing. I was like, oh, they're naked kissing... because you would watch a movie and they would [kiss] and then whatever.

This is a factually incorrect childhood understanding of biology and human behavior.

Big Cat rounded things out with a terrifyingly specific theory about the relationship between childhood snacks and his own anatomy. He convinced himself as a kid that the warnings against eating Play-Doh weren't about safety, but about localized growth spurts.

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Big CatBig Cat

I used to think my testicles were made of Play-Doh and that eating actual Play-Doh would make them grow bigger

I thought my balls, my testicles were Play-Doh. So when my parents told me don't eat Play-Doh, I thought they were trying to be like, Hey don't eat Play-Doh because your balls will just get bigger because it will just go right to your balls... You just don't know what they are when you're a little kid and you start touching 'em, you're like, this is weird. I'm like, oh, it must be Play-Doh.

Testicles are not made of Play-Doh, and eating modeling clay does not increase their volume.

Matt Damon and Casey Affleck

Boston royalty Matt Damon and Casey Affleck joined the show to promote their new Apple TV+ film, *The Instigators*. The chemistry was immediate, mostly because they’ve known each other since they were kids. They talked about the efficiency of working with lifelong friends because you can skip the "diplomacy" and just tell each other when a take sucks.

Naturally, the conversation turned to the Patriots and the controversial *Dynasty* documentary. Big Cat and Matt Damon went back and forth on the Robert Kraft era, with Matt offering some perspective for the younger fans like Hank who have never known the struggle of the pre-Kraft years.

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Aug 2, 2024
#26689
Matt DamonMatt Damon

Being a Patriots fan before Robert Kraft bought the team was a certain kind of hell

Being a Patriots fan was a certain kind of hell... and maybe this is why we have a different perspective on the Robert Kraft thing. Until Robert Kraft bought the team, it was brutal going out to Foxboro to watch them play. It was brutal watching 'em play on TV. It was heartbreaking constantly.

The Patriots were historically mediocre to poor before the 1990s, including a 1-15 season in 1990, making this an accurate historical assessment.

The guys also pressed Matt on his infamous decision to turn down the lead in *Avatar*, which came with a 10% stake in the back end. While Matt is Zen about it now, the math is still staggering when you look at the box office numbers.

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Aug 2, 2024
#11092
Matt DamonMatt Damon

I would have made more money than any actor in history if I had accepted the lead in 'Avatar'

I had a chance to be in Avatar... I probably would've made more money than any actor in history had I taken the part... It was 10% of the total earnings from the film... All I know is it made over 3 billion.

James Cameron has confirmed he offered Damon 10% of the profits. With Avatar earning $2.9B+, it is arguably the largest single-role payday ever rejected.

Before letting them go, PFT had to settle a long-standing debate about the final shot of *The Departed*. Matt gave a masterclass in film analysis, explaining that the rat wasn't just a literal pest, but a symbol of the social climbing and the past that the characters couldn't escape.

Void
Aug 2, 2024
#26692
Matt DamonMatt Damon

The rat at the end of 'The Departed' symbolizes the main character's past and the social ladder he was trying to climb

The writer had in the script... the idea of me, of me kind of climbing the social ladder. And now I find myself in this old brownstone, but there's still a rat that you, that rat comes across and it's, it's his past. It's the thing... it's meant to symbolize all that stuff.

Damon is explaining the artistic intent of the filmmakers, which makes this a subjective but authoritative interpretation of the symbol.

Fyre Fest of the Week

Hank returned from vacation just in time to sit in two hours of traffic and complain about losing a Mount Rushmore to Max. However, the real star of Fyre Fest was Huey, who revealed that his laundry situation has become so dire due to a spider-infested hallway that he has simply stopped washing his clothes entirely.

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Aug 2, 2024·Fyre Fest
#11097
HewyHewy

I would rather buy new clothes than walk through a spider-infested hallway to do laundry

I have to share that laundry room with three other units... there's spiders all the way up and down the wall... I'm afraid to go down there... So I bought new clothes, bought just essential stuff.

Huey confirms this is his actual current lifestyle choice.

Grit Week starts Sunday, so prepare your livers and your lock buttons.

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More Takes

Void
Aug 2, 2024
#26682
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell's push for guardian caps is a calculated move to blame players for safety issues later when the league pushes for a 19-game season

I think Roger Goodell was like, tell you what, in the effort of player safety, I will allow you to wear a giant helmet that makes you look like a clown. And no one's gonna do it. And then Roger Goodell could be like, oh, I gave them the option of wearing the big red clown nose on their face. But they chose not to do it. I guess they don't care about player safety. Let's do 19 games.

The league has continued to push for an expanded schedule while emphasizing player choice in safety gear, making this a plausible though cynical interpretation of corporate strategy.
Win
Aug 2, 2024
#11077
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Harbaugh is going to win with the Chargers because winning is all he does

Jim Harbaugh, he's gonna win. That's all he does. He wins everywhere he goes. He's gonna figure out a way to win.

Jim Harbaugh led the Chargers to an 11-6 record and a playoff berth in his first season, after they had a losing record the previous year. Big Cat was right that Harbaugh would win.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#26683
Big CatBig Cat

Simone Biles is such a great athlete that she could probably dunk on a regulation 10-foot rim

Our gymnastics team dominated again. Simone Biles is the GOAT... I think KD even said that she thinks, he thinks that Simone Biles could take an Alley-OOP, like she could dunk on a 10 foot rim.

Biomechanical analysis of her height versus a 10-foot rim makes this essentially impossible, but it remains a subjective celebration of her athleticism.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#11080
HankHank

Imane Khelif should be allowed to compete in women's boxing despite the testosterone controversy

From my limited reading, she was born a female and identify as a female. Just because she has some extra testosterone doesn't mean she shouldn't be fighting other females.

This is a subjective matter of policy and ethics regarding athletic eligibility.
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Big CatBig Cat

I used to think that jumping at the last second in a falling elevator would save your life

If you're an elevator and it falls and you jump at the end, you survive... I just looked it up. It's not true. It's not true. You would die.

The physics of a free-falling elevator mean jumping would not significantly reduce the force of impact. Big Cat correctly identifies that his past belief was wrong.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

TV reruns are actually actors performing the exact same script live for a second time

I used to think that when you'd watch a rerun of a show on TV, that it was an all new taping of the exact same script... I thought that like, I'd be watching Saved by the Bell... They're doing the same song, but they're just taping it again for us.

Reruns are clearly recorded broadcasts of the original performance.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I used to believe that all adults were smart and understood exactly what was going on

I honestly used to think that every adult was smart. I thought if you were grown up, you knew what was going on. And then you grow up and you're like, we're all dumb. No, we're all really fucking dumb. I was probably smarter when I was a kid than I am now.

The claim that adults are universally 'smart' is demonstrably false and a matter of maturing perception.
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HewyHewy

Chocolate milk comes from brown cows

I thought chocolate milk came from brown cows... I was up north driving past a brown cow and I pointed to my cousin, I said, you know, chocolate milk comes from those things.

Chocolate milk is white milk with cocoa/sugar added; the cow's color is irrelevant.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#11094
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Paul Walter Hauser should play Andy Reid in a movie about the coach's life

One [project] would be him [Paul Walter Hauser] playing Andy Reid in the Andy Reid story. I think he'd crush that.

This is a subjective casting opinion.
Win
Aug 2, 2024
#11093
Matt DamonMatt Damon

The Celtics will win the 2024 NBA Championship because they are the deepest team

My prediction is... I think we're the best team left. I think we're the deepest team and if we can stay injury free... I feel like we really should win this thing.

The Celtics defeated the Dallas Mavericks in June 2024 to win the NBA title.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#11089
Big CatBig Cat

The 'Dynasty' documentary was a slanted propaganda piece designed to get Robert Kraft more credit

It was basically Robert Kraft being like, I need more credit for everything that's happened... they slanted it so hard against Belichick that everyone who has watched the Patriots the last 20 years was like, this is not how it happened. I think it actually hurt him.

The documentary's bias is a matter of critical interpretation, though many former players agreed with Big Cat's assessment.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#11091
Casey AffleckCasey Affleck

The 'Dynasty' documentary was an accurate, high-quality sports film that did not manipulate viewers

I haven't talked to a lot of people that are like, I don't know, like, I think we got manipulated a little bit... it was so well done. It's like a hundred percent rotten tomatoes watching it... I think it leaves people with the impression that that is how it was.

This is a subjective evaluation of a film's quality and intent.
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Aug 2, 2024
#11095
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers will get injured again and then run for Vice President

He's probably gonna get injured again... He's gonna get injured and then he is gonna run for vice president and he's gonna become vice president of the United States.

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While Rodgers was discussed as a potential candidate in March 2024, he did not run for Vice President, and the Jets season hadn't started yet to confirm any injury.
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Aug 2, 2024
#26688
Big CatBig Cat

Caleb Williams is going to be incredible for the Bears despite his eccentric personality

He's gonna be incredible. He's eccentric. He's cool. Paints his fingernails. That's not a problem. Right? I don't see why that would be a problem. No, I'm just wondering... if you get Peyton Manning or do you get Mitch Trubisky.

Caleb Williams had a respectable rookie season (20 TDs, 87.8 passer rating, franchise rookie records), but the Bears went 5-12 including a 10-game losing streak. He was far from 'incredible' as predicted.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#26690
Matt DamonMatt Damon

The Mount Rushmore of Boston athletes is Bill Russell, Tom Brady, David Ortiz, and Bobby Orr

So I would probably go Tom, Poppy, Bobby Orr, Bill Russell. That's a strong four. ... I think a lot of people would say Ted Williams. ... [But] how do you not put Bill Russell on that Mount Rushmore? You never see that again.

This is a subjective Mount Rushmore, though these four are widely considered the gold standard for Boston sports success.
Void
Aug 2, 2024
#26691
Matt DamonMatt Damon

The Academy Awards should be voted on 20 years after the movies come out to accurately gauge which ones truly lasted

The real best way to do it is to do the awards like 20 years after the movies come out. ... There's no spin, there's no, it's like I still watch that movie. I still love that movie. That was the best movie of 2004. It would be a more accurate gauge of whether a movie really works.

While this is a subjective proposal for how to run an awards show, it's a logically sound critique of modern film awards culture.

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