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Mike Florio + NFL Week 6 Recap

Monday, October 15, 201823 takes

NFL Week 6 Fastest 2 minutes ( - ). Week 6 recap, Brock Osweiler owns the Bears, Nathan Peterman is hilarious, Big Ben owns Ohio, and the Broncos are on the watch for the Done Chain ( - ). Chaos in College Football but LSU is back to playing Neck ( - ). Football Guy of the Week including Gregg Williams eating opossums and possibly rats ( - ). Who's back of the week ( - ). Mike Florio joins the show from Pro Football Talk to talk Week 6, what the Giants should do with Eli Manning, what the Raiders should do with Jon Gruden, and a spin on LeVeon Bell no one is talking about ( - ). Segments include Talking Baseball, just stop talking Jon Gruden, Perspective from Bruce Irvin and Nathan Peterman, Bad Visual Conor McGregor, and Trouble in Paradise Pete Davidosn/Ariana Grande

Mike Florio on NFL Week 6, the Raiders' Ferrari, and Eli's Future

Week 6 was a bloodbath for the favorites, and unfortunately, that included Big Cat’s beloved Bears. In a twist of fate that only the NFL could produce, Brock Osweiler stepped in for the Dolphins and continued his reign of terror as the Bear-slayer. Big Cat is taking it well, which is to say he's already planning the funeral for his other favorite team’s season.

Push
Oct 15, 2018
#14299
Big CatBig Cat

The Wisconsin Badgers season is officially over

The Badger season's over. They're a fucking dumpster fire. I'm done... don't ever think about getting sucked back into this Wisconsin season. They're chicken shit cowards and don't deserve your time or money.

The Badgers finished the season 8-5 and won the Pinstripe Bowl, so the season wasn't technically 'over', but they failed to meet high preseason expectations.

PFT isn't letting the Bears off the hook that easily. After watching Osweiler dismantle the Chicago secondary, he’s convinced the only way to stop the curse is to bring the enemy inside the building.

Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#14300
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Bears are destined to sign Brock Osweiler

The Bears are destined to sign Brock Osweiler... because he is the perfect... he's more Mike Glennon than Mike Glennon is. And the fact that he's impressed you guys so many times by beating you in your face.

The Bears never signed Brock Osweiler; he retired after the 2018 season.

While the Bears fell in Miami, Big Cat is at least grateful that the loss stopped the media from crowning them too early. He’s keeping expectations firmly in the basement for now.

Win
Oct 15, 2018
#26380
Big CatBig Cat

The 2018 Chicago Bears are not a Super Bowl team

I also, if the Bears had won that game and gone 4-1 and then played the Patriots next week and had been like, someone would have written the, could this be a Super Bowl preview, which is stupid because the Bears are not a Super Bowl team, whatever.

The Bears finished 12-4 but lost in the Wild Card round (the Double Doink game), confirming they were not a Super Bowl team.

Gruden’s Ferrari and the Raiders’ Disaster

Across the pond, the Raiders got absolutely dismantled by the Seahawks. Jon Gruden looks like a man who realized he accidentally told his boss he was an expert in Excel during the interview and is now staring at a spreadsheet he doesn't understand. PFT thinks the 1998 nostalgia is wearing off quickly.

Void
Oct 15, 2018
#26381
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jon Gruden is starting to realize he is in over his head as the Raiders head coach

Right now, Jon Gruden's entering the phase of this job where he is starting to realize, hey, I might be in a little bit over my head. This isn't actually the year 1998.

Gruden's tenure with the Raiders was generally underwhelming, finishing with more losses than wins before his eventual resignation in 2021.

Mike Florio joined the show to break down the wreckage in Oakland. He compared Gruden’s offense to a Ferrari that Derek Carr keeps scratching, and the repair bill might be too high for the Raiders to keep the keys in Carr's hands.

Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#14305
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Raiders could move on from Derek Carr next year

I think the real question is, what do they do with Derek Carr next year? Because even though he's got that big contract, they can unload him at a manageable cap hit if they decide that John Gruden needs a different quarterback... In fact, it's easier than you'd think to get out from under Carr's contract.

The Raiders did not move on from Carr the following year; he remained their starter until 2022.

The Eli Manning Retirement Home

The Giants are in a similarly dark place with Eli Manning. After another dismal performance, the guys discussed whether it's time to finally let the legend go. PFT compared the situation to a household pet that’s seen better days.

Void
Oct 15, 2018·Who's Back
#26386
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Giants should 'put Eli Manning down' like an old house cat

Eli Manning, he's more like an old house cat that just coughs up hairballs and shits himself all the time. Put it down. Put it down.

Eli Manning was benched for Daniel Jones the following season (2019) and retired shortly after, confirming he was at the end of the road.

Florio agreed that the Giants are stuck in a cycle of their own making after the Ben McAdoo benching disaster last year. If the season continues on this trajectory, the decision might be made for them by the draft board.

Win
Oct 15, 2018
#14306
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Giants must move on from Eli Manning if they get the number one pick

After the year, look, if they finish with the worst record in football and they get the first overall pick in the draft, then you have to move on... At some point you just have to write it off and move on, right?

The Giants drafted Daniel Jones 6th overall in 2019 and moved on from Eli as the starter during that season.

Quick Hits and the Done Chain

Elsewhere in the league, Nathan Peterman did Nathan Peterman things, entering a game for seven minutes and managing to throw two interceptions. PFT has officially found the successor to a certain Houston Texans legend.

Void
Oct 15, 2018
#14301
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nathan Peterman is the Matt Schaub of our generation

Yeah, he's the Matt Schaub of our generation. It's great. I mean, every game is just so much more exciting when Nathan Peterman gets involved because you know what's going to happen. It's just a matter of time.

Subjective comparison between two quarterbacks famous for throwing interceptions at critical moments.

Big Cat is also officially over the Denver Broncos. After watching them get gashed by Todd Gurley and the Rams, the 'Done Chain' has been firmly placed around the neck of the Mile High franchise.

Win
Oct 15, 2018
#26383
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially 'Done Chaining' the Denver Broncos

I might Dunchain the Broncos. That defense gets gashed... I feel confident dun-chaining the Broncos.

The Broncos finished 6-10 and missed the playoffs, making the declaration correct.

Finally, the show wrapped up with a look at the MLB playoffs, where David Price finally managed to not lose a game, though Big Cat remains unimpressed by the bar being set at "not completely shitting the bed."

Win
Big CatBig Cat

David Price's good postseason game was actually mediocre by normal standards

Strive in life to be like David Price where you set the bar so impossibly low for yourself that pitching four and two-thirds and four earned runs is actually, people are saying, you were dominant.

Statistically, 4.2 innings with 4 runs is an 8+ ERA, confirming the bar was indeed very low for a 'good' Price start.

If the Giants don't trade Eli Manning by Wednesday, we might have to start a GoFundMe for Saquon Barkley's sanity.

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Win
Oct 15, 2018
#26382
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Brady's record in the state of New York is probably more impressive than Ben Roethlisberger's record in Ohio

I just wonder what Tom Brady's record is in the state of New York. Because I bet you it's more impressive than Big Ben's record in the state of Ohio.

Brady finished his career 32-3 against the Bills and 31-8 against the Jets, making his winning percentage in the state of New York incredibly high, rivaling Roethlisberger's 25-4-1 in Ohio.
Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#14302
Big CatBig Cat

The Jets might actually be good

The Jets might be good. 3-3. Todd Bowles, turn that squad around. Turn it around. Top 10. That's what he does. He's getting up there.

The Jets finished the 2018 season 4-12 and Todd Bowles was fired.
Win
Oct 15, 2018
#26384
Big CatBig Cat

The Chiefs defense is so bad they can lose games even when scoring 40 points

The Chiefs' defense, though, if you score 40 points in the NFL and you lose, that's impressive. That's an impressive thing to do. Their defense is so, so bad.

The 2018 Chiefs defense finished near the bottom of the league in several categories, eventually costing them in the AFC Championship game against the Patriots.
Void
Oct 15, 2018
#14303
Big CatBig Cat

Rob Gronkowski is the greatest tight end in the history of the game

Did you guys realize that Rob Gronkowski is actually the greatest tight end in the history of the game? Like, he actually is. It's kind of not even a debate.

While Kelce has since challenged the record books, Gronkowski remains widely considered the most complete/best tight end in history by many fans and analysts.
Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#26385
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am still buying Scott Frost as a good coach for Nebraska

Their quarterback got injured. I don't know. For whatever reason, I'm still buying Scott Frost.

Scott Frost never had a winning season at Nebraska and was fired in 2022 with a 16-31 record.
Void
Oct 15, 2018·Who's Back
#14304
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is the new Steve Jobs

LeBron is the new Steve Jobs. From films and TV shows to educational institutions, A&R-ing via his IG... James is using his magnitude to invade industries and redirect the conversation.

Inherently subjective comparison between a basketball star and a tech visionary.
Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#14309
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Raiders will get rid of Derek Carr and replace him with old veterans

He strikes me as a guy that would absolutely get rid of this high-paid quarterback and bring in like six veterans who are all over the age of like 33.

While Gruden did sign many veterans (Jordy Nelson, etc.), he kept Carr until his resignation in 2021.
Win
Oct 15, 2018
#26387
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Seahawks are not good enough to win in the playoffs this year

I don't think they're good enough to win in the playoffs. I think if they get to the playoffs, that's a huge accomplishment. Too early to declare them back. I just think the Raiders are done.

The Seahawks made the playoffs as a Wild Card but lost in their first game to the Cowboys, failing to win a playoff game.
Void
Oct 15, 2018
#26388
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Giants should be treating Saquon Barkley like the centerpiece of their offense

They should be treating Saquon Barkley like the Cowboys treat Elliott, like the Vikings treated Adrian Peterson. The offense goes through this guy instead of him just being a piece in a bigger puzzle because the rest of the puzzle is crap.

Barkley was indeed a workhorse in 2018, winning Offensive Rookie of the Year, though the Giants still finished 5-11.
Win
Oct 15, 2018
#14307
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Carson Wentz is 'damaged goods' and will get hurt again

I said [to WIP radio], Mahomes, then Goff, then Wentz, because Wentz is damaged goods. And he's got the torn ACL, and he plays with reckless abandon. He's going to get hurt again. That's just the way it is.

Wentz did suffer a back injury later in 2018 and struggled with various injuries for the remainder of his career, largely validating Florio's concerns.
Loss
Oct 15, 2018
#26389
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Steelers could trade Le'Veon Bell to the Eagles as soon as he returns

I still don't rule out the possibility of them trading him as soon as he comes back to a team like the Eagles or another team.

Bell never reported to the Steelers in 2018, was never traded, and sat out the entire season.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

The Red Sox should move David Price to the bullpen

Why don't they just move him to the bullpen? That would make sense.

David Price stayed in the rotation and went on to have a legendary postseason run, winning the deciding games in both the ALCS and World Series.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin are going to break up

Haley Baldwin and... Biebs... Yeah, they're going to break up. Okay. That's the second.

As of 2024, Justin and Hailey Bieber are still married and have a child together.

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