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Mike Pereira and Death 12/14/16

Wednesday, December 14, 201619 takes

Twitter wars, PFT is in a twitter war with Jay Mariotti and Jeff Fisher has been fired ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Mike Pereira joins the show to talk about players jumping over the center during Field Goals and what would happen if a dildo were to cause a fumble in live action ( - ). The guys went back to Death to talk about Jeff Fisher's deceased coaching career, Tommy Lasorda, and closure on who killed Larry 1 ( - ) . Segments include Protect the Shield MLB edition, Thoughts and Prayers to Breast Cancer, Lebron Meme Killer, Spinzone for Lane Kiffin, Things I Thought Were Funny When I Was Drunk, and the newest segment Train Thoughts.

Mike Pereira on NFL Rules, Jay Mariotti Feuds, and Finding Closure with Death

The show kicks off with PFT Commenter in the middle of a bizarre Twitter war with Jay Mariotti, who apparently has emerged from the clouds to demand a resume and a legal name. It is classic troll behavior, but PFT is leaning into it, especially with the news that Mariotti is starting a national podcast on New Year's Day.

Void
Dec 14, 2016
#2685
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jay Mariotti is just a troll looking for attention

It's called a troll that's looking for attention. And I absolutely played right into what he wanted.

Speaking of careers in transition, the guys process the devastating news of Jeff Fisher being fired by the Rams. He was just one loss away from the all-time record, and Big Cat is genuinely shook by the absence of that constant failure in his life. PFT points out that Fisher managed to lose in the most poetic way possible.

Void
Dec 14, 2016
#2686
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jeff Fisher couldn't even succeed at losing, which is the most losing thing of all

In my opinion, if you're going to do something, be the best at it. He couldn't even succeed at losing, which is really the most losing thing of all.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank starts things off by putting Rex Ryan on the Hot Seat, mostly because we all deserve at least one game where Rob Ryan is the head coach. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is on the Cool Throne after meeting with Kanye West and effectively disarming a 2020 election threat.

Loss
HankHank

Donald Trump has nothing to worry about and will serve two full terms as President

So [Trump] met with Kanye today... And Kanye tweeted after he was originally going to run in 2020. He's not going to run until 2024... So Trump is good. Trump has nothing to worry about. Two terms. Eight years. The only thing holding him back from not being president is now over.

Trump served one term (2017-2021) and lost the 2020 election, though he eventually won a second term in 2024. The prediction of 'eight years' consecutively or 'nothing to worry about' for 2020 was incorrect.

Big Cat brings up the incredible story of the Wake Forest radio announcer who was selling plays to opponents for three years. It raises the question of why anyone actually needs a spy to beat Wake Forest, but it also provides a great excuse for the head coach.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

A college football coach shouldn't be fired if there's a 'rat' in the building selling plays

So if you missed the story, literally the radio guy for Wake Forest has been selling playbooks and insider information to all of Wake Forest's opponents for the last three years. I didn't know anyone needed help to beat Wake Forest... You can't fire a coach if there's been a rat in the building, right?

This is a subjective opinion on coaching job security during a scandal.

As we wrap up the year, Big Cat is officially done with the people complaining about how 'terrible' this trip around the sun has been.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

People who complain about how much 2016 sucked are officially on the hot seat

My hot seat was, I think I talked about this a month ago, but I want to officially throw it on the hot seat because we're getting close to the end of the year. People who complain about how much 2016 sucked. You only have two weeks left to be a whiny little bitch on Twitter talking about how 2016, worst year ever.

Finally, the 'Yates of Hell' are back as TJ Yates signs with the Dolphins. It’s a legendary nickname that unfortunately is attached to a player who rarely lives up to the billing.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

The 'Yates of Hell' nickname is the greatest for someone who can't back it up

Maybe the greatest nickname for someone who can't back it up because this is what happens with TJ Yates. You sell yourself on Yates of Hell, and you even bet on Yates of Hell, and then you remember that it's actually just TJ Yates and he sucks.

Mike Pereira

Former VP of Officiating Mike Pereira returns to the show to help make sense of the chaos on the field. The conversation immediately goes to Shea McClellan jumping over the center to block a kick on Monday Night Football. While it looked like a glitch in the matrix, Mike explains that it’s actually perfectly legal under the current rules.

Win
Dec 14, 2016
#2689
Mike PereiraMike Pereira

Hurdling over a center during a field goal is legal as long as there is no contact

So now you're getting these guys that are getting the running start and going over the top, and if they don't touch anybody, then it's legal. It's legal to hurdle. I just don't know what they could necessarily do other than to say that you can't jump over an opponent, and I just don't see them doing that.

At the time, hurdling was legal if no contact was made. The NFL eventually banned leaping over the line of scrimmage entirely in 2017.

This leads to a deep dive into the 'goaltending' rules of the NFL, which apparently exist because players used to stand under the crossbar like they were playing center for the Knicks.

Win
Dec 14, 2016
#27684
Mike PereiraMike Pereira

The NFL has a 'goaltending' rule to prevent players from batting field goals away from under the goalpost

But, you know, there's such a foul in the NFL, which people don't really know about... goaltending. They used to put R.C. Owens, I think it was, underneath the goalposts at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco. And he would try to jump up and bat the ball to keep it from going over the upright. And the league said, that doesn't seem fair. And so they actually said that you couldn't.

The 'RC Owens Rule' or goaltending in the NFL is a real rule added in the 1960s (Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1).

Big Cat also asks about a personal grievance: the yellow gloves and cleats that make every fan think there is a penalty flag on the play. Mike is surprisingly on board with banning the look to protect the 'shit for brains' demographic of fans.

Void
Dec 14, 2016
#2691
Mike PereiraMike Pereira

Yellow colored gloves and cleats should be illegal in the NFL

Should be illegal. I'm going illegal with that. Because we don't want to offend dumb people like yourself.

On a more serious note, Mike weighs in on the Harry Douglas hit that had the Broncos seeing red. While players might hate it, the rulebook says otherwise.

Win
Dec 14, 2016
#2693
Mike PereiraMike Pereira

Harry Douglas's low hit on Chris Harris Jr. was not illegal or dirty

I say dirty from my standpoint is based upon whether it was illegal or not. And it's not illegal. I mean, he's in front. He's blocking low. It's a run up the middle. I don't think it's illegal at all, and I don't think the league does either.

The NFL did not fine Harry Douglas for the hit, confirming it was legal within the rules at the time.

Before letting him go, Big Cat floats a theory that the NFL is going to move away from ties entirely just so Roger Goodell can take a victory lap.

Loss
Dec 14, 2016
#2697
Big CatBig Cat

Roger Goodell will change the overtime rules this offseason to eliminate all ties

Roger Goodell's going to change the overtime rules this offseason, so eliminating all ties, and then he's going to say that he saved the NFL yet again.

The NFL did not eliminate ties in the 2017 offseason. They actually shortened overtime from 15 minutes to 10 minutes, which many argued would lead to *more* ties.

Talking to Death

The guys visit Psychic Laura to get some closure on the week's biggest passings. First up is the coaching career of Jeff Fisher. According to Laura, Fisher would have absolutely secured that losing record if the Rams hadn't intervened.

Void
Dec 14, 2016
#2698
Big CatBig Cat

Jeff Fisher would have broken the all-time NFL loss record if he hadn't been fired

Coach Fisher was one loss shy of the record... speaking with his career, was he going to ever get that record even though it was cut short? [Psychic Laura: 'Absolutely'] He was. It's good to know that if given the time, he would have been successful failing with the losses.

Subjective/Hypothetical. Fisher was tied for the most losses (165) with Dan Reeves at the time of his firing.

In a shocking twist, the spirit world also seemingly confirmed that another veteran quarterback is reaching the end of the line.

Win
Dec 14, 2016
#27685
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Carson Palmer's NFL career is dead

[Psychic Laura says 'Palmer'] Carson Palmer's career is dead. That actually makes a lot of sense. I barely even know.

Carson Palmer played one more season in 2017 before retiring in January 2018.

PFT also finally gets some closure on Larry 1, the goldfish. It turns out Larry might have been overfed, and Laura points the finger directly at PFT. We also learned that the PMT office is haunted by a ghost that wants to inhabit the body of a 'strong and good-looking' man, so Big Cat is officially done working out for the foreseeable future.

Segments

In Protect the Shield, the guys discuss the MLB's new ban on rookie hazing that involves dressing up as women. PFT sees this as a direct hit to the country's foundational values.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The ban on rookie hazing is killing masculinity in this country

Well, I see where Major League Baseball is coming from, but the fact that they're not letting guys dress up like girls is killing masculinity in this country. It's just sick.

LeBron James is back in the spotlight for killing yet another meme, this time a Home Alone mortgage joke. Big Cat is tired of the King turning everything into a sanitized corporate product.

Void
Dec 14, 2016·LeBron Blames
#2702
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is the 'Disney' of the NBA and corny as fuck

He's the Disney of the world. He's the Disney of the NBA. He's the Disney of memes. He makes everything corny as fuck.

Spin Zone heads to Boca Raton, where Lane Kiffin has taken the FAU job. Big Cat thinks the location is a brilliant move for a man who needs to stay out of trouble with other people's wives.

Void
Dec 14, 2016·Spin Zone
#2703
Big CatBig Cat

Lane Kiffin took the FAU job in Boca Raton as 'self-limiting behavior' because the women there are too old to hit on

Here's my spin zone for Lane Kiffin taking this job in Boca Raton. If he wants to go fuck any guy's wife, it's probably like a 100-year-old woman, so he's not going to do it. It's kind of like self-limiting behavior... Lane Kiffin's not going to go to a place where he just wants to cuck every dude he sees. It's like if you're an alcoholic, go take a job in Utah.

This is a satirical characterization of Lane Kiffin's personal life and motivations.

To wrap up the show, the guys share some drunken ideas and train thoughts. PFT has a plan for ultimate respect for your children, while Hank wants to become a New York City street performer known as 'Hanksy.'

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Name your kid 'Coach' so they are respected by peers and have job security

Name your kid coach. Why not just give your son, our daughter, the name coach? That way they're respected by all their peers. If they're playing sports growing up, you're taught to respect your coach, and you also are immune to being fired unless you really, really, really suck at your job.

Void
HankHank

I could make a lot of money as a 'Hanksy' street performer playing bad music as performance art

I just want to set up one of those musical sets but play really bad music and just make people think it's an art piece and see how much money I can make. You're doing a live Banksy. You're doing a Hanksy... Just stand there and just do [a didgeridoo] over and over again. I think people move so fast in New York, they would be like, oh, this guy's pretty genius.

Subjective claim about the gullibility of New Yorkers toward performance art.

Big Cat ends with his vision for the future of the MTA, which involves an incentive program for people who just can't hold it in.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

The subway should have a 'fart car' with a discounted monthly pass

There should be a discounted train pass for a fart car. But would you not pay like 50% less a month on your train pass if – but you can only ride in the fart car?

Just remember that if you have ever had chicken pox, you already have shingles inside you and you're basically a walking biological clock.

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