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NFL HoFer Jerome Bettis And Raiders WR Cordarrelle Patterson

Wednesday, January 10, 201821 takes

Nick Saban has won another National Title and he's probably already recruiting. We have Tua mania and feel bad for Kirby Smart ( - ). Jon Gruden announced as new Raiders Head Coach ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). NFL Hall of Fame Running Back Jerome Bettis joins the show to talk about Football, how the game has changed, what it was like being thicc and quick, and why he should say sorry for the Steelers Super Bowl win over the Seahawks ( - ). Segments include Embrace Debate how do you pronounce the name Matt Nagy. Sport of the future update for Lacrosse. Hermatology with a Herm Edwards update. Bachelor for guys that don't watch the Bachelor and special guest Cordarrelle Patterson from the Oakland Raiders joins the show to talk about Jon Gruden and Guys on Chicks.

Jerome Bettis and Cordarrelle Patterson on Bama's Title and Gruden's Raiders

College football just gave us one of those games that reminds you why we love this sport, even if Nick Saban is a literal robot who refuses to smile. Alabama’s comeback win over Georgia had everything: a benching, a freshman hero, and Big Cat immediately catching a life-threatening case of Tua Fever.

Win
Jan 10, 2018
#11124
Big CatBig Cat

I am fully on board with Tua Tagovailoa

I've got Tua fever. Yeah. I am fully on board with Tua... I think it's the Hawaiian aspect. Like Hawaiian people are just cooler than everyone else. That's just a straight up fact.

Tua Tagovailoa went on to have a legendary college career at Alabama, including a Heisman-caliber season in 2018 and being a top draft pick.

While Tua was busy becoming a legend, Jalen Hurts was busy becoming the most overqualified backup in the country. PFT noticed that Hurts basically secured himself a decade of paychecks by being the ultimate teammate during the post-game interview.

Loss
Jan 10, 2018
#11125
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jalen Hurts has a backup job for life in the NFL

He has a backup job for life in the NFL. He proved himself to be the best backup quarterback of all time with a post-game interview. We all know that a starting quarterback and a backup quarterback are very different positions. You just basically want the backup guy to have a heartbeat and to just say, hey, I'm here to support the starter. And then you can get like 12 years.

This take aged poorly in terms of Jalen Hurts being 'just a backup,' as he became an All-Pro starter and led the Eagles to a Super Bowl. However, his character and professionalism (which PFT cites) did prove to be elite.

Big Cat thinks Hurts shouldn't give up on starting just yet, he just needs to find a system that fits his specific set of skills, like running directly into the backs of his offensive linemen for four yards a carry.

Void
Jan 10, 2018
#20678
Big CatBig Cat

Jalen Hurts would be the perfect Ohio State quarterback because he could just run up the middle

He would actually be the perfect Ohio State quarterback. Yeah. [Ohio State] does like [quarterbacks like] J.T. Barrett. There'd be no drop-off. Get another fifth-year guy in there who just runs up the middle over and over until you can't tackle him.

Hurts ended up transferring to Oklahoma, not Ohio State, though his style of play did remain run-heavy until he developed further as a passer.

In the midst of the Bama celebrations, Big Cat also took a stand against the current state of trophy aesthetics. Apparently, the weird lightsaber thing they hand out now isn't cutting it for the traditionalists.

Void
Jan 10, 2018
#20679
Big CatBig Cat

The College Football Playoff trophy is terrible and should be replaced by the old glass ball

The glass ball needs to come back. Whatever that fucking lightsaber thing is, is terrible.

This is an aesthetic opinion that many fans agree with.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Gruden Mania

Jon Gruden is officially back with the Raiders, and the pairing with Mark Davis is almost too perfect. They look like they share a single bowl-cut-obsessed brain. While the hype is through the roof, Big Cat is tempering expectations for what Chucky can actually do for Derek Carr.

Loss
Jan 10, 2018
#11126
Big CatBig Cat

Jon Gruden is probably not actually going to make Derek Carr a Hall of Fame quarterback

He's going to make Derek Carr a Hall of Fame quarterback. Probably not.

Carr has had a solid career but is not currently on a Hall of Fame trajectory.

On the Hot Seat/Cool Throne front, the guys discussed the absolute disruption that is LaVar Ball. While the NBA establishment is pearl-clutching, Big Cat respects the hustle of a man just trying to build an empire out of spite.

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Big CatBig Cat

LaVar Ball is disrupting everything as a small business owner

I love every second of it. LaVar Ball pisses off. Because it's like he's disrupting everything. He's created his own shoe company. He's going to create his own league. Like everything he does is just a small business owner just saying fuck you to the big guys. And guess what? People want to watch.

LaVar Ball did successfully keep the spotlight on his family for years and both Lonzo and LaMelo became high NBA draft picks, though the shoe company and league didn't achieve long-term scale.

The conversation took a darker turn into the world of secret societies and conspiracy theories. PFT has been doing the research, and he’s decided that the Illuminati is likely a fraud because their legal department is too quiet.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Illuminati is not real

Here's my take. I don't think the Illuminati is real. I've actually been doing a lot of thinking about this today. If the Illuminati was real, they would be so powerful that they would eventually sue somebody who came after [them]... If they were actually real, they would shut that shit down.

This is a subjective/philosophical argument about the nature of conspiracy theories.

The Bus in Studio

NFL Hall of Famer Jerome Bettis joined the show to talk about his legendary career and the transition from the "thick and quick" era to today’s pass-happy league. The Bus was honest about how his downhill style might not translate to modern offenses that hate the run.

Void
Jan 10, 2018
#11130
Jerome BettisJerome Bettis

I wouldn't have the same impact in today's NFL

I don't think I have the same impact in today's NFL because, like I said, I needed 25 carries. I needed 30 carries... a lot of teams have gone to pass first and run the ball second, and they've kind of diminished the running back position to a degree. So certain teams I think I will still have tremendous success on, but certain teams I think I would be like James Harrison. Trade me. Get rid of me.

The NFL has indeed shifted toward committees and pass-catching backs, though high-volume runners like Derrick Henry prove there is still a niche for power backs.

Bettis also settled the debate on who the best signal-caller was during his tenure in Pittsburgh, and it wasn't particularly close, even if the rookie version of Big Ben forgot to bring the veterans their breakfast on Saturdays.

Win
Jan 10, 2018
#11131
Jerome BettisJerome Bettis

Ben Roethlisberger was the best quarterback I played with

I've got to say Ben Roethlisberger. No question about it... Ben had that 'it' that most players don't have. I mean, you can be a good player, but you just don't have that 'it' thing. He's had that 'it'.

Roethlisberger is a future Hall of Famer and the most successful QB Bettis ever shared a backfield with.

We also got some inside info on the spoils of war for NFL officials. While fans usually want to throw things at the refs, it turns out they actually get a little hardware for working the big game.

Win
Jan 10, 2018
#20682
Jerome BettisJerome Bettis

NFL referees receive Super Bowl rings with the NFL logo on them

The refs actually do get rings. But they don't get a ref Super Bowl ring. It actually has the NFL logo on it.

This is a verifiable fact; officials who work the Super Bowl are indeed awarded rings to commemorate the achievement.

Lacrosse and Guys on Chicks

Hank brought a "Sport of the Future" update that was actually a Bill Belichick conspiracy theory in disguise. He’s convinced the Hoodie is playing the long game to destroy the NFL from the inside.

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HankHank

Bill Belichick will become the commissioner of Lacrosse to take down the NFL

Bill Belichick hates the NFL, hates Roger Goodell... He's going to become the commissioner of lacrosse. He knows. He sees the writing on the wall. The NFL is going to be dead soon. Concussions. Everyone's going to stop playing... then he's going to start recruiting the best football minds to lacrosse... he goes on top as the best coach of all time [by taking down the NFL].

Bill Belichick did not become the commissioner of Lacrosse and the NFL is still the dominant sport in America.

Finally, Raiders wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson hopped on to talk about the excitement of the Gruden era and the impending move to the desert. For the players, the appeal of Las Vegas is pretty simple and comes down to the bank account.

Win
Jan 10, 2018
#20686
Cordarrelle PattersonCordarrelle Patterson

Every NFL player wants to play in Las Vegas because it's cheap and there's no state income tax

Everybody want to play in Las Vegas because it's cheap out there, for one. And the taxes is nothing like California taxes... who wouldn't want to live out there?

Nevada indeed has no state income tax, making it a highly desirable destination for professional athletes financially.

During Guys on Chicks, the conversation devolved into nighttime bathroom habits. Big Cat shared a "pro tip" for avoiding any middle-of-the-night aim issues that left the rest of the room questioning his plumbing choices.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

I pee in the sink in the middle of the night because I know I won't miss

I will pee in the sink in the middle of the night because you know that you aren't going to miss. You know what I mean? You just run the water and just pee in the sink.

This is a personal preference and a recurring theme on the show.

Next time you're at a game, just remember that every Sun Devil fan is accidentally participating in a bit.

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More Takes

Void
Jan 10, 2018
#20680
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I could convince Jerry Jones to hire Adolf Hitler if I had a bottle of scotch and two days to work on him

I bet you I could convince Jerry Jones to hire Adolf Hitler if I had a bottle of scotch and two days to work on him. I could implant that in his brain.

This is a purely satirical claim meant to mock Jerry Jones's character.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Football is like the mafia because once you're in, you're in for life

This just proves our theory that football is like the mafia. Once you're in, you're in for life. And if you just kind of like stick around long enough, your name will pop back up.

The persistent re-hiring of established coaches in the NFL supports this observation.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rodrigo Blankenship will be a third-round pick because he wears glasses

Rodrigo [Blankenship] understands more than most that if you just have a thing as a college athlete you skyrocket your draft appeal. So if he didn't have those glasses, he probably would be maybe a sixth, seventh round pick. He's probably going in the third round because he's the kicker with the glasses.

Rodrigo Blankenship actually went undrafted in the 2020 NFL Draft, despite his 'Rec Specs' fame.
Win
Jan 10, 2018
#11132
Jerome BettisJerome Bettis

Vontaze Burfict is a dirty but good football player

I think he is dirty, but he's a good player. That's the crazy part. He's a good football player, but he does have some antics that come with what he does... I think he's one of those players that he's a good player if he didn't come with all the things he comes with, I think he'd be an even better player and more respected.

Burfict was objectively one of the most penalized and suspended players for safety violations, but he was also a Pro Bowler and productive linebacker.
Win
Jan 10, 2018
#20683
Jerome BettisJerome Bettis

James Harrison is persona non grata in Pittsburgh after joining the Patriots

He went to the enemy... yes, he is. He's a lot of people look at him as persona non grata. I think his former teammates will feel the same way.

The reaction from Pittsburgh fans and several former teammates at the time was intensely negative, though time has softened the stance for some.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Bears fans watch football to avoid being nagged, so we should call Matt Nagy 'Nagy' (with a soft A)

The debate is, how do we pronounce [Matt Nagy's] last name? It's technically Nagy, but we're going to go with Nagy... we watch football so that we don't get nagged. I mean, if you want to get nagged, there's women for that, right? ... Don't give me 'Nag-y'. Give me 'Nay-gy'.

The correct pronunciation is indeed 'Nag-y' (rhymes with baggy), so his preferred 'Nay-gy' is factually incorrect but a deliberate choice.
Void
Jan 10, 2018·Hermatology
#20684
Big CatBig Cat

Herm Edwards definitely doesn't know that the Arizona State 'Sun Devil' hand sign is actually the shocker

Herm Edwards... gave the Sun Devil slogan, which is also the shocker... There's no way that Herm knows that he's giving the shocker. Absolutely. Putting two in the pink, one in the stink.

The similarity is a long-running joke in sports media, though Edwards's actual awareness is unknown.
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Cordarrelle PattersonCordarrelle Patterson

Men cheat because they think there is more out there, but they usually realize they love the person they are with

Sometimes as guys, we always think it's more out there in the world for us. And we always have that one person that we really, really care about. But we really don't believe it. But that's the one for us. And we think it's more out there. And we go out there and try to explore. But then we always find ourselves going back to the one that we really love.

This is a psychological observation on human behavior in relationships.

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