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Wednesday, June 14, 201718 takes

NBA Finals wrap up, torch passing, and Lebron hot Take fatigue. Hot Seat/Cool Throne and an introduction of Pardon My Take intern Billy Football. FS1's Nick Wright joins the show to defend Lebron, talk NBA Finals and Super Team Destiny. Nick Bonino and Brian Dumoulin from the Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins join the show to talk about winning back to back cups, whether or not it's the Caps year, and Dumo meeting Vanny Woodhead. Segments include Mayweather/Pacquiao Update, Good Visual for Eddie Lacy, Stick to Sports for the Warriors, connect the dots on Gordon Hayward and Guy's on Chicks

Nick Wright on LeBron vs. MJ and Penguins Nick Bonino and Brian Dumoulin

The NBA Finals are officially over, and while Kevin Durant finally got his ring, the guys aren't ready to crown the Warriors as the greatest of all time just because they added a superstar. Big Cat and PFT Commenter spent the morning dissecting the fallout of Game 5, from the 'gentleman's sweep' to the absolute absurdity of the Tristan Thompson and David West kiss.

Big Cat made sure to get his stance on the record early regarding the hierarchy of the league despite the Warriors' dominance.

Void
Jun 14, 2017
#2663
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is still the best player in the NBA

I just want it on the record that I do still think LeBron is the best player in the NBA, but what Kevin Durant did in the finals was fantastic.

Subjective ranking of players at their peak.

While KD walked away with the Finals MVP, he might have lost something even more valuable during the locker room celebration. PFT spotted a glaring weakness in Durant's championship form that had nothing to do with basketball.

Void
Jun 14, 2017
#2664
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant lost his man card for spitting out a beer while celebrating

All the money in the world, all the championships in the world, they can't buy you back your man card. So he was in the locker room afterwards celebrating, took a sip of beer, and just spit it out all over himself.

Whether one 'loses a man card' over a beer spit-take is entirely subjective and a comedy bit.

Nick Wright Defends the King

FS1's Nick Wright joined the show for what was less of an interview and more of a therapeutic shouting match. Big Cat and Nick went toe-to-toe on whether the Warriors are actually 'light years ahead' or just beneficiaries of massive luck. Nick stood by his controversial pre-series take that the Warriors over-corrected by signing Durant, even if the results made him look a little crazy.

Loss
Jun 14, 2017
#2668
Nick WrightNick Wright

The Warriors would have been a better team if they never added Kevin Durant

The concern I had with the Warriors... they kept their top three players, but other than that, they made major moves. They got rid of rim protection... for a guy that I thought was redundant... throughout the regular season, it was looking correct. Now, in the playoffs, it looks idiotic, and I got to own that.

The Warriors won the 2017 championship with a 16-1 playoff record, making the claim that they were 'better off without him' factually dubious.

Nick didn't stop there, digging into why he finds the Warriors' style of play visually offensive compared to the raw power of LeBron James. He also offered a scouting report on Draymond Green that probably won't end up on Draymond's LinkedIn profile anytime soon.

Void
Jun 14, 2017
#2669
Nick WrightNick Wright

Draymond Green is a poor man's LeBron James

Draymond is like a poor man's LeBron. Because Draymond is... a guy that can guard all five spots. A guy that can bring the ball up the court.

A stylistic comparison that is subjective but common in sports analysis.

Naturally, the conversation devolved into the never-ending MJ vs. LeBron debate. Nick remains the world's foremost LeBron scholar, insisting that the King has already surpassed His Airness.

Void
Jun 14, 2017
#2667
Nick WrightNick Wright

LeBron James is the greatest basketball player of all time

I think LeBron's the greatest player ever. You disagree with that, and we can have that discussion as well if you'd like.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.

Back-to-Back Champs

As is tradition, Nick Bonino and Brian Dumoulin of the Pittsburgh Penguins hopped on the show to rub their second straight Stanley Cup in PFT’s face. The guys discussed the 'Caps Year' curse, Nick Bonino's legendary toughness playing through a broken tibia, and Phil Kessel’s affinity for shrimp cocktail over hot dogs at the championship cookout.

Void
Jun 14, 2017
#2670
Brian DumoulinBrian Dumoulin

Wayne Gretzky is the best player ever, but Sidney Crosby is the best I've ever seen

Wayne is the best player ever. But, I mean, I think – I mean, obviously, Sid, in my eyes, just because I'm – I mean, I've seen him play, and I see him every day. I think, honestly, he's the best player that I've ever seen and been able to play with.

Subjective comparison of eras and personal experience.

Intern Billy Football and Hot Seat/Cool Throne

The episode also marked the official introduction of Intern Billy Football. Fresh out of high school, Billy is tasked with whipping Big Cat and PFT into shape through the power of ketosis. While he's starting at the D-III level, the guys have much bigger plans for his future.

Loss
Jun 14, 2017
#27020
Big CatBig Cat

Billy Football will transfer to a Division I school and eventually make it to the NFL

Billy Football is actually playing college football next year for a Division III school. But we've already made it clear that we're going to be transferring to a Division I school after this next year and then the road to the NFL.

Billy Football played his college career at Williams College (D3) and did not transfer to D1 or make it to the NFL.

On Hot Seat/Cool Throne, PFT put John Fox on notice for his questionable logic regarding rookie QB Mitch Trubisky, while Big Cat warned the 'perfect booties' of Instagram that a certain NBA superstar is officially back online and active.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

No 'perfect booties' on Instagram are safe now that LeBron James has ended his social media blackout

LeBron James is now back on Instagram and Twitter if ZeroDark30-23 is over, and that means no perfect booties are safe because he likes his perfect booties. He likes to like them.

Refers to a recurring observation of LeBron's social media behavior; not a verifiable outcome.

To wrap up the show, the guys answered some hard-hitting questions on Guys on Chicks, including a deep dive into the 'double piss' theory of pregnancy tests and a stern warning from Big Cat about the dangers of dating runners.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Steer clear of dating hardcore runners to avoid being forced into a miserable Saturday morning routine

You don't want to get in a relationship with a hardcore runner, because then you're going to be getting up at 6 a.m. on Saturdays. You always see those couples, and they're running, and they have matching outfits, and one of them looks absolutely miserable. One of them's like, I want to kill myself. That's the one that you're going to end up being, so just steer clear of runners.

Subjective relationship advice.

If you find yourself at a B-Dubs this weekend, just remember that according to PFT, winning an eating contest is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

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Void
Jun 14, 2017
#27018
Big CatBig Cat

The 2017 Golden State Warriors are not the greatest team of all time

Are the Warriors one of the best teams in NBA history? Are they GOAT? Are they the GOAT? No, they're not. I think three-year stretch, they're up there. Only winning two out of three probably hurts them.

Legacy rankings are inherently subjective.
Win
Jun 14, 2017
#27019
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant will take a pay cut to stay with the Warriors

Is KD going to take less money? Yes.

Kevin Durant signed a two-year deal with the Warriors in July 2017 for approximately $10 million less than his maximum possible salary to allow the team to retain Andre Iguodala and Shaun Livingston.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mitch Trubisky should start early because the Tim Tebow model worked for John Fox

John Fox... just said he wants to start getting Mitch Trubisky as much experience as possible, as early as possible... because it worked really well when he got Tebow. All that experience right away.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Trubisky did eventually start in Week 5 of his rookie year, but the 'Tebow model' comparison is purely satirical.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dennis Rodman is the greatest American diplomat in history

Dennis Rodman... has proven that he is the greatest American diplomat in history... He just went to North Korea. But he freed that hostage that was over there.

Subjective and clearly intended for comedic effect, though Rodman did visit North Korea during hostage releases.
Void
Jun 14, 2017
#27022
Nick WrightNick Wright

Shooting three-pointers is the least visually pleasing skill in basketball

When the Warriors' success up to this season was predicated on two guys who have mastered the one skill in basketball that, to me, is least pleasing, just from a visual perspective... Shooting threes.

Aesthetics in sports are entirely a matter of personal preference.
Void
Jun 14, 2017
#27023
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Replacing Deron Williams with Matthew Dellavedova would have won the Cavaliers the 2017 NBA Finals

If you replace Deron Williams with [Dellavedova] this postseason, do the Cavs win? Because I actually think that they might.

A hypothetical scenario that cannot be tested.
Loss
Jun 14, 2017
#2671
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A Labor Day fight between Mayweather and McGregor would heavily favor McGregor

I heard somewhere that it was going to be maybe Labor Day weekend. In which case... it would heavily favor McGregor. Because Irish people hate working and love getting into fights and you get into a lot of fights when you're not working.

The fight happened in August, not Labor Day, and McGregor lost to Mayweather.
Loss
Jun 14, 2017
#2672
Big CatBig Cat

Eddie Lacy is purposely sucking while in shape to prove he was better when he was fat

What's to say Eddie Lacy meets all his goals, gets in shape, and then purposely sucks? So everyone's like, wait, he was better when he was fat.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Lacy was ineffective for Seattle in 2017 regardless of weight, effectively ending his career after that season.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If a woman has sex with a man once, he will be willing to have sex with her again at any point for the rest of his life

Basically, if you're a girl and you have sex with a guy, at any point for the rest of your life, if you're in the same room as him, you can be like, you want to fuck and he will want to fuck you.

Broad generalization about human behavior that cannot be definitively proven.

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