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Rachel Nichols and Ryan Whitney

Wednesday, June 7, 201716 takes

NBA Finals talk is making everyone in the sports world a giant idiot. Stanley Cup Final talk ( - ). Bachelor for guys that don't watch the Bachelor ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Rachel Nichols joins the show to answer 6 questions about the NBA Finals and a couple MJ/Lebron hypotheticals ( - ). Ryan Whitney joins the show to talk SCF, the city of Nashville and how the NBA takes forever to play the Finals ( - ). Segments include Lebron Blames, Hmmmm for David Ortiz coming back, Football Guy, Humans vs the Sun and Guy's on Chicks

Rachel Nichols and Ryan Whitney on Finals Mania and Hockey Karma

The sports world has officially lost its collective mind thanks to the seventeen-day gap between Games 2 and 3 of the NBA Finals. Big Cat and PFT are filling the void with hair analysis and the most unhinged hypotheticals imaginable. While the Warriors and Cavs prepare for a restart, the guys took a hard look at the aesthetic matchups on the floor.

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Jun 7, 2017·Null
#9234
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Cavaliers have the worst hair of any team in NBA history

It just occurred to me, the Cavaliers are probably the NBA team with the worst hair of all time, and they're matched up against the team [Warriors] with the worst facial hair of all time.

Subjective opinion on hair quality.

PFT also found time to respect Booger McFarland’s confidence. Apparently, Booger believes he’s only two weeks of practice away from taking down the best in the golf world, a sentiment PFT backed with zero hesitation.

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Jun 7, 2017·Null
#28096
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Booger McFarland could beat any professional golfer if given a couple weeks of practice

If you guys didn't know, Booger thinks that he can beat a professional golfer. If you give Booger a couple weeks practice, he can beat anybody in golf. I actually agree with that.

Booger McFarland, while an athlete, is not a professional golfer; beating 'anybody' in pro golf after two weeks is effectively impossible.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

J.J. Watt is on the Cool Throne for his masterclass in humble-bragging. After being named to the NFL Top 100 list, Watt took to Twitter to call the list a joke because he only played three games, ensuring every single person on the internet knew he made the list while appearing above it.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

J.J. Watt rejected the Top 100 players list only to show everyone how humble he is

J.J. responded to it and said, I only played three games last year. What a joke this list is. So J.J. gets it. He's going to make sure that everybody knows how humble he is. And he's rejecting the title of a top 100 player. While also letting everyone know that he made the top 100 list.

The interpretation of Watt's intent is subjective, though his tweet did literally occur.

Big Cat put every basketball coach in America on the Hot Seat after Ohio State’s coaching wish list leaked. The list included every heavy hitter from Brad Stevens to Jay Wright, a move Big Cat recognized as a classic negotiation tactic.

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Big CatBig Cat

Ohio State's unrealistic coaching wish list is a strategic 'anchoring' move

This is a great move by OSU, though, because if you just throw out the wish list that's just insane, everyone's like, okay, well, that's crazy. And then you get one of those second-tier guys that you probably were a third-tier. Yes, it's called anchoring. Anybody who's negotiated knows this. You ask for way, way more than you should get, then you'll get a little bit more than you deserve.

OSU eventually hired Chris Holtmann from Butler, who was a rising star but not in the 'Coach K' tier, supporting the theory.

Rounding out the segment, the Ryan Brothers landed on the Cool Throne for their recent extracurricular activities in Nashville. Big Cat argued that the context of their bar scuffle matters more than the fight itself.

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Big CatBig Cat

If LeBron James gets in a fight when he is horny, it is not his fault

Cool throne, the Ryan Brothers... everyone knows if you get in a fight because you were horny, it doesn't really count. It's not a fight... if you get in a fight when you're horny, it's not your fault.

This is a satirical moral claim about fighting excuses.

Rachel Nichols

Rachel Nichols joined the show from a themed tavern in Cleveland to survive a grueling "six-pack" of questions. Between the smells of the visitor's locker room and the reality of the Warriors' dominance, the conversation naturally turned to the MJ vs. LeBron debates that are currently rotting everyone's brains. Rachel offered a nuanced take on how the 2017 Warriors would fare against the 90s Bulls.

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Jun 7, 2017
#9238
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The 1990s Bulls would beat the 2017 Warriors if played under 90s rules

The Warriors are built for an era where there's no handshaking, where the defensive rules are different. If they played during the Bulls 90s era, I think the Bulls team was built for those rules. So they would win.

An unprovable hypothetical about different eras.

She also broke down the specific ways Kevin Durant has broken the spirit of the Cavaliers compared to last year's series. Despite the Cavs' struggles, Rachel is keeping an eye on the role players who might benefit from the defensive attention paid to the stars.

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Jun 7, 2017
#28098
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

JaVale McGee will have a surprising high-scoring game in the 2017 NBA Finals

I actually think JaVale, no joke, I think there will be a game where JaVale has a surprising number of points. Because when you talk about how they're going to defend... what that will leave is a lot of backdoor cuts for JaVale to the basket.

McGee never scored more than 4 points in any game of the 2017 Finals. His production was very limited throughout the sweep.

As the LeBron free agency rumors begin to swirl years in advance, Rachel explained the strategy behind the King’s business model. It turns out the short-term deals aren't just about the money; they are about keeping the front office on their toes.

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Jun 7, 2017
#9239
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

LeBron James signs short contracts to force team management to stay aggressive

I don't think it's an accident he keeps signing these shorter contracts. He's not... LeBron James free agency not signing a five-year contract for a reason. I think he likes keeping his options open... The problem is [with long contracts] your team has no motivation to do anything for you. Plus all the money is locked up. They don't go bring anyone else in.

LeBron's history of signing short deals and then leaving Cleveland for the Lakers in 2018 confirms this leverage-seeking strategy.

Ryan Whitney

Ryan Whitney called in to discuss a Stanley Cup Final that actually feels like a series. While the Predators have clawed back, Whitney is looking at the bigger picture in the NHL, specifically the future of the Great Eight in Washington. He thinks there's a non-zero chance the Caps finally pull the trigger on a massive move.

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Jun 7, 2017
#9240
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

There is a 30% chance Alex Ovechkin gets traded this offseason

Do you think that that's [Ovechkin being traded] really going to happen? I would say it's like 30% chance of happening. But that's 29% more than last year... I wouldn't be shocked, put it that way.

Ovechkin was not traded and went on to win the Stanley Cup with the Capitals the following season (2018).

Whitney, who knows the Nashville scene well, credited the city’s atmosphere but refused to let PFT’s catfish obsession slide. He also confirmed a long-standing theory about the cosmic justice found on the ice.

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Jun 7, 2017
#9242
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Hockey is the only sport that truly has karma

Hockey is the only sport that I think truly has karma. That's a fact. Yeah, I can go with that one.

Karma is a metaphysical concept and cannot be factually verified as unique to hockey.

Segments

Football Guy of the Week featured Mississippi State baseball coach Andy Cannizzaro, who brought boxing gloves into the clubhouse to spark a turnaround. Big Cat noted that college baseball coaches and football strength coaches are basically the same breed of human.

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Big CatBig Cat

College and high school baseball coaches belong to the same 'phylum' as football strength coaches

College baseball coaches and high school baseball coaches are under the same phylum as football strength coaches. They're very similar. They're very similar species... They share 98% of the genetics, but the 2% that they don't share makes them a little bit different.

Subjective comparison of personality archetypes in sports.

Finally, the show wrapped with Guys on Chicks, where Big Cat and PFT explained the biological necessity of the 45-minute bathroom break. It’s not about the digestion; it’s about the peace and quiet.

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Big CatBig Cat

Men stay in the bathroom for 45 minutes just to avoid being nagged by their partners

The real answer, to answer your question, female listener, is we spend that much time in the bathroom because that's the only place you can't nag us. We're avoiding you.

A subjective behavioral claim about why men take long bathroom breaks.

Be careful out there on those first dates, because if he's being too nice, he's probably just a fuckboy in disguise.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Persistence and annoyance are the keys to winning over a woman who has rejected you

Here's one thing I know about women. If they tell you, no, I don't want to date you, the more persistent you are and the more annoying you are to them, then eventually they'll let you in. Yeah. Just comment on all of her Instagram pictures. That will work.

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In real life, this behavior is generally considered harassment rather than a successful dating strategy.
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Jun 7, 2017
#28097
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The 2017 Warriors feel more overwhelming than the 2016 version because of how Kevin Durant changed their chemistry

The two games of last year's finals, the Warriors actually won by more. But for some reason, this just feels so much more overwhelming with the way Kevin Durant has changed the chemistry of that team.

Subjective feeling on team dominance and chemistry.
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Jun 7, 2017
#9241
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The 2017 Stanley Cup Final will go to seven games

Where do you see the last three games going? I think it goes seven. I mean, you say that it looked like it wouldn't have been a long series... I think home team's going to win game five, Nashville's going to win game six, and then kind of a coin toss in game seven.

The Pittsburgh Penguins won the series in six games, winning Game 5 and Game 6.
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Big CatBig Cat

A guy who is 'over the top nice' early in a relationship is hiding something

If he's over the top nice, if he's buying you stuff constantly and flowers and writing you cards, he's probably hiding something. Because no guy after three or four dates is going to keep putting in that amount of effort. Or he's too clingy... If he keeps pouring it on, he's probably hiding something. That's a fuckboy.

Subjective dating advice.

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