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Raiders QB Brian Hoyer, CFB, MNF Doubleheader, 1 Question With Sam Howell And Jimbo’s

Wednesday, September 20, 202326 takes

Monday Night Football doubleheader and it’s gotten bad in Cleveland for Deshaun plus the horrible injury to Nick Chubb. Steelers offense stinks and the Panthers/Saints played a boring ass game (-). College Football talk and is Bama cooked (-)? Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the new Rays stadium and Lauren Boebert follow up (-). Brian Hoyer joins the show to talk about his career, what makes a great backup, his chances at starting, winning a SB, Ernie Adams, and tons more (-). 1 question with a QB Sam Howell (-) and then we finish with Jimbo’s (-).

Brian Hoyer on Career Backups and Sam Howell's Steak Pact

The Monday Night Football doubleheader was a tale of two very different disasters. While the Saints and Panthers played a game that could only be described as a cure for insomnia, the Browns and Steelers gave us pure chaos. Between the devastating injury to Nick Chubb and the absolute regression of Deshaun Watson, things are looking bleak in Cleveland. Big Cat isn't even sure if the Browns have the best quarterback in their own division that's currently on an IR list.

Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#2316
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers is having a better year than Deshaun Watson

There's a chance that Aaron Rodgers is having a better year than Deshaun Watson... Sean Watson is very bad.

Rodgers played four snaps and was out for the season, while Watson finished the season with 7 TDs and 4 INTs in 6 games with a 5-1 record, despite poor efficiency metrics.

PFT pointed out that the irony of the situation is massive considering how the organization handled their previous quarterback. They went all-in on a massive guaranteed contract for someone who currently looks like he forgot how to play the position while the guy they kicked to the curb is thriving elsewhere.

Win
Sep 20, 2023
#22920
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Browns didn't know how good they had it with Baker Mayfield and should have been happy with a serviceable quarterback

They ran [Baker Mayfield] outta town in Cleveland. I've been saying ever since Baker got that raw deal that they, they didn't know what they had when they had Baker. When you're the Browns, you gotta be happy sometimes with having a serviceable quarterback. And they thought that they could go ahead and break the structure of the NFL salary cap and give a sex predator $240 million guaranteed.

Mayfield went on to lead the Buccaneers to a playoff win in 2023 while Watson's tenure remained plagued by injury and poor performance.

To make matters worse, the internet detectives think they've already found Deshaun's burner account defending his performance in the mentions. It’s a classic move for a guy under fire, but the stats don't lie. Even Najee Harris is struggling to look like his old explosive self, which made for a painful viewing experience for anyone with a pair of eyes.

Void
Sep 20, 2023
#22922
Big CatBig Cat

Najee Harris has gotten painfully slow in the NFL

I don't know why [Najee Harris] got so slow. It's painful to watch how slow he is... He looks slower somehow. And he's getting caught. He's not able to break it to the, if he bounces to the outside, he's getting tackled.

While subjective, Najee Harris's efficiency metrics in 2023 remained below his rookie highs, though he still surpassed 1,000 yards.

The Lighthouse Investigations Continue

Because Hank refuses to let the dream die, the lighthouse at Gillette Stadium remains a primary talking point. PFT took the initiative to reach out to the actual United States Coast Guard to settle the height dispute once and for all. He even got a response from a Commander, though Hank remains skeptical of the chain of command when it doesn't favor his Patriots.

Win
Sep 20, 2023
#2319
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the official tallest lighthouse in the US, not the Gillette Stadium one

Per the United States Coast Guard. The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the official tallest lighthouse in the United States. Not your fucked up Fugazi piece of bullshit [at Gillette Stadium].

Cape Hatteras is 198 feet; the Gillette Stadium 'lighthouse' is 218 feet but is not a functional aid to navigation according to maritime authorities.

Alabama is Cooked

College football is in a weird spot where the traditional powerhouses look vulnerable. Alabama's struggle against USF was a wake-up call for anyone still holding onto the Saban dynasty. The guys discussed whether we are witnessing the end of an era or if this is just another year where no one is actually dominant.

Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#2320
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alabama is washed and Nick Saban is a bad football coach

Alabama's washed. Alabama is so washed. Done. Nick Saban is so bad at coaching football Big Cat. He is one of the worst football coaches in college.

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Alabama won the SEC and made the CFP in 2023, and Nick Saban retired as arguably the greatest coach ever, making this 'frozen' in the best way possible.

While Bama slides, Colorado continues to be the most electric story in the sport. Despite the lacerated liver injury to Travis Hunter, the hype train isn't slowing down. PFT had a very specific medical diagnosis for Hunter’s recovery timeline that should make the Buffaloes' training staff feel a lot better.

Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#22924
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Travis Hunter's lacerated liver is a "hurt" injury, not an "injured" injury, and is basically equivalent to being hungover

I'm gonna say it's hurt. I basically played from 26 until I was 35 with the equivalent of a lacerated liver. I showed up to work every day. Did this podcast. It's not that big of the, the liver reheals itself. It's amazing. Basically Travis Hunter's hungover.

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Hunter missed several games with what was a medically significant internal injury, making the 'hungover' claim hilariously incorrect.

Brian Hoyer on the Art of the Backup

Raiders quarterback Brian Hoyer joined the show to discuss his 15-year career and what it’s like being the guy behind legends like Tom Brady. He gave some incredible insight into the New England culture, including how Ernie Adams would draw up "Transcontinental" special plays just to mess with the defense on Fridays. Big Cat made sure to remind Hoyer that his brief stint in Chicago actually holds a legendary place in the record books.

Void
Sep 20, 2023
#22928
Big CatBig Cat

Brian Hoyer is one of the best Chicago Bears quarterbacks of all time based on 300-yard passing games

Do you know that you are tied for most 300 yard passing games in a Bears season? You're tied for the most all time with four. You are one of the best Bears quarterbacks of all time just based on that stat.

The stat is factually true but the conclusion is ironic based on the Bears' historically bad quarterback play.

Hoyer was also very candid about the atmospheres in the Big 10. For a guy who played in some of the most historic venues in the country, he has a very clear ranking of where it's actually difficult to get a road win, and it’s a tough look for the fans in Ann Arbor.

Void
Sep 20, 2023
#2326
Brian HoyerBrian Hoyer

Michigan Stadium is not a hostile environment

The Big House is a historic place, but it's not a very hostile environment. Those fans kind just sit on their hands... it doesn't get very loud compared to a Ohio State or Penn State.

Subjective, but a very common criticism of Michigan Stadium's bowl shape and 'wine and cheese' crowd.

One Question with Sam Howell

Washington Commanders QB Sam Howell stopped by for a quick round of questions. The most important takeaway? Howell has famously never eaten a burger or a steak in his life. However, he's willing to break that lifelong streak under one very specific condition that would involve the guys taking him on a world-class culinary tour.

Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#2327
Sam HowellSam Howell

If the Commanders win the Super Bowl, I will eat a steak

If we win the Super Bowl, I'll have a steak... Y'all have to take me to the best steak in the world.

The Commanders did not win the Super Bowl in 2023.

We wrapped up with Jimbos, where the guys discussed the perils of all-inclusive seating at baseball games. It sounds like a luxury, but according to Big Cat, it's really just a fast track to physical ruin and alienating everyone sitting in your immediate radius.

Void
Sep 20, 2023·Jimbos
#22932
Big CatBig Cat

Sitting in all-inclusive seats at a baseball game is not a flex because it just turns you into a "toxic wasteland" of gas

If you go to all-inclusive for the baseball game, it's fart city. That's all you're gonna do for the rest of the day. You just eat so many things... By the third inning I'm a toxic wasteland. It rules though.

Personal anecdotal claim about digestive health.

At least the farts are free.

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Void
Sep 20, 2023
#2317
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Deshaun Watson probably has a burner account on Twitter

He also might have created a burner account after the game... allegedly from Deshaun, I think it was called the Twitter account, was like Gainesville raised or something like that. All the tweets that he had were about Deshaun Watson replying to people... saying not his fault.

While widely suspected by fans, it was never definitively proven that Watson was the user 'GainesvilleRaised'.
Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#2318
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Steelers will be a perfect Mike Tomlin team that goes .500 but misses the playoffs

It does feel like the Steelers are gonna just be a perfect Mike Tomlin team that they won't go under 500, but probably also won't make the playoffs.

The Steelers went 10-7 (better than .500) and actually made the playoffs as a Wild Card team.
Void
Sep 20, 2023
#22921
Big CatBig Cat

PMT fans are better at knowing when to throw the challenge flag than actual NFL head coaches

NFL coaches aren't great at watching football. They don't watch enough... We're better at knowing when you should throw the challenge flag than NFL coaches are. If there's somebody out there that just spends all day Sunday, all night Monday, all night Thursday, all day Saturday watching football... You are better at knowing when to challenge a call is than an actual NFL head coach.

This is inherently subjective, though Mike Tomlin's specific struggles with challenges are often used as supporting evidence.
Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#22923
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alabama will not be able to climb back into contention in the SEC with their current roster

It, it doesn't look good though. Like, I don't, I don't see a way that they [Alabama] climb out into contention in the SEC with the current roster that they have with this current program that they have in place right now.

Alabama won the SEC Championship in 2023 and made the College Football Playoff.
Push
Big CatBig Cat

There are no superpower teams in college football this year

It feels like this college football season... No one's really that good... There's a lot of really good teams, but no superpower team, which I love.

Michigan went undefeated and won the title, though many games were close, confirming there wasn't a 2019 LSU-level juggernaut until the very end.
Win
Sep 20, 2023
#22925
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Shedeur Sanders is legitimately one of the best quarterbacks in Division I football

His son [Shedeur Sanders] is what legitimately one of the best quarterbacks in division one football... He's legitimately awesome. He's fun to watch.

Sanders finished 2023 with nearly 4,000 yards and a 27:3 TD:INT ratio, establishing himself as a top-tier NFL prospect.
Win
Sep 20, 2023
#22926
MaxMax

Penn State is going to smoke Iowa this weekend

I think we're [Penn State] gonna smoke Iowa.

Penn State defeated Iowa 31-0 on September 23, 2023.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Colorado will lose to Oregon by a lot

I think Oregon's gonna win by a lot.

Oregon defeated Colorado 42-6 on September 23, 2023.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Washington might be a worthy future bet in college football

Washington might be, I might have to put a future on Washington. They're so electric.

Washington went 14-1, winning the Pac-12 and playing in the National Championship game.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you're not horny with the Lauren Boebert thing, you're telling on yourself for being super horny

I'm not being horny. I'm being normal. If you're not horny with the Lauren Boebert thing, you're telling on yourself for being super horny. So horny that you're afraid to admit it.

This is an absurdist pop culture claim based on show logic.
Void
Sep 20, 2023
#2324
Brian HoyerBrian Hoyer

Starting as a quarterback is easier than being a backup

I always found it easier as a starter. 'Cause at least you have the week going in, you know when the offense takes the field, you're going out there and and you're prepared to play 60 Minutes.

This is a subjective professional opinion from a 15-year veteran.
Void
Sep 20, 2023
#22929
Brian HoyerBrian Hoyer

Jacoby Brissett is one of the funniest and most well-respected guys in the NFL

Jacoby Brissett... this guy's hilarious. You talk about a dog, people who love him. I mean, you see the respect, like the Brown showed him... this guy is one of the best guys that I've ever been around... People gravitate towards him.

Subjective character assessment from a veteran teammate.
Void
Sep 20, 2023
#2325
Brian HoyerBrian Hoyer

Penn State is the toughest place to play in the Big 10

I'm gonna go with Penn State... that place... you're kind of like out in this middle of nowhere... and I think two out of the three times I played there was like a whiteout... that's a tough hostile environment to play.

Commonly debated, but Beaver Stadium whiteouts are widely regarded by players and coaches as the most difficult atmosphere.
Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#22930
Big CatBig Cat

If you touch the ball, you can catch it

We always say on this podcast, if you touch, if you touch it, you can catch it. It's a fact.

Physically incorrect, but a fundamental show belief.
Loss
Sep 20, 2023
#22931
Sam HowellSam Howell

Justin Fields is a good player and the Bears will figure it out

Justin's a good player, man. They'll figure it out... [The Bears] have an opinion, but... I think they'll figure it out.

The 2023 Bears finished 7-10 and eventually traded Justin Fields in the following offseason.
Void
Sep 20, 2023·Jimbos
#2328
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Uncrustables are the perfect meal

It's really the perfect meal, an Uncrustables.

Purely subjective food opinion.

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