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Rob Gronkowski, MNF Recap, And Uncle Chaps Reading Guys On Chicks

Wednesday, September 11, 201920 takes

Joe Flacco stinks and the Oakland black hole is the last place for true NFL fans. Deshaun Watson and Bill O'Brien's fuck up. (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the new iPhone causing Trypophobia, and can Bama beat the Dolphins?(-) Retired NFL Tight End Rob Gronkowski joins the show to talk about his retirement, the end of 69 jokes, playing in big games, Tom Brady, and whether or not he ever made Bill Belichick laugh.(-) Segments include Just Chill Out Man for Mike Greenberg,(-) Sabermetrics Kevin Durant's new number,(-) Sports Biz Minute,(-) and Guys on Chicks with Uncle Chaps. (-)

Rob Gronkowski on Retirement, Belichick, and a Week 14 Return

Monday Night Football gave us two games, but mostly it just gave us more proof that Joe Flacco is a shell of his former self. Big Cat didn't hold back on the Broncos' new signal-caller, questioning why John Elway is still obsessed with tall guys who throw pretty balls that lead to absolutely zero points. The guys also broke down the Raiders' emotional win over the Broncos in what felt like a funeral for the Oakland Coliseum.

Win
Sep 11, 2019
#10033
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Flacco shouldn't be a starting quarterback in the NFL anymore

Joe Flacco stinks. He's bad. He shouldn't be a starting quarterback in the NFL anymore. John Elway likes him because he's tall and he throws... He still throws a nice looking ball, but it's just nothing else is good.

Flacco was benched mid-season in 2019 for Drew Lock and eventually moved into a career backup role, proving he was no longer a viable franchise starter.

PFT Commenter noted that the Raiders were playing with an insane level of motivation following the Antonio Brown saga, while Big Cat mourned the loss of the Black Hole, an environment that simply cannot be replicated in a brand-new desert dome.

Void
Sep 11, 2019
#10034
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL moving the Raiders out of Oakland is absolute bullshit

What the NFL is doing to the Raiders is absolute bullshit. I'm going to miss Oakland fans so, so much. Watching the black hole... the Raiders fans... just every single shot, every single camera shot to the crowd is art. It really is.

This is a subjective opinion on the value of a fan base versus stadium revenue.

They also touched on the Texans' heartbreaking loss to the Saints, specifically focusing on Bill O'Brien’s clock management and the absolute disrespect DeAndre Hopkins showed a defender with a mid-game suplex. Big Cat thinks the NFL should lean into the violence just a little bit more.

Void
Sep 11, 2019
#10037
Big CatBig Cat

Each NFL team should be allowed one legal body slam per game

DeAndre Hopkins doesn't get enough credit for one of the coolest nicknames... Nuke. So when he body slammed the defender, which I believe that each team should get one body slam a game, just like you get one body slam, we get one body slam.

This is a satirical suggestion for a rules change.

The Summer of Gronk

Future Hall of Famer Rob Gronkowski finally made his way into the studio for a long-overdue interview. He’s noticeably leaner than his playing days, weighing in at 245 pounds, but he claims he’s actually stronger now that he’s not carrying around "bullshit weight." While the world is waiting for him to announce a comeback, Gronk was happy to fuel the fire by pinpointing a specific timeline for when he might get the itch to play again.

Loss
Sep 11, 2019
#10042
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

I will return to the NFL around week 14

I'm actually going to come back this exact... yeah probably like week 14 or something. Al Preza said week 14, week 13... so you know I'm just going to agree with you. You're the Prez so week 14 or something. Week 14 works.

Gronkowski stayed retired for the entire 2019 season, eventually returning for the 2020 season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Beyond the comeback rumors, Gronk gave some incredible insight into the Patriot Way. He talked about his relationship with Bill Belichick, revealing that even as the most dominant tight end in league history, he never once received a direct "you're the best" from the hoodied genius. He also discussed Tom Brady’s "special power" on the field, which Gronk believes is essentially a form of precognition.

Void
Sep 11, 2019
#10045
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

Tom Brady has a 'special power' that tells him who will be open on every play

I feel like Tom has like this special power and he like he like knows who's going to be open that play... just from all the practice, just from reading the guys being around them... that's what makes him so special and that's why he can get anyone open because he knows exactly where they're going to be.

Subjective opinion on quarterbacking ability from a teammate.

The conversation inevitably turned to 69 jokes, a staple of both PMT and the Gronk brand. Surprisingly, Gronk thinks the bit might be losing its fastball, though he did admit he’d put the pads back on for a very specific financial and numerical incentive.

Void
Sep 11, 2019
#10043
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

I would return to the NFL for $10 million if I could wear number 69 and be tackle eligible every play

Let's say $10 million... You get to wear number 69, and you report as tackle eligible every single play... [Gronk]: You know, that's a pretty good deal... Three games before the playoffs, $10 million, wearing number 69... Yeah, I would take that deal.

This was a comedic hypothetical.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank led off Hot Seat with people suffering from Trypophobia, who are apparently having a meltdown over the three-camera layout on the new iPhone 11. PFT followed up with a take on the state of rock music, declaring that Green Day’s return to the spotlight officially pushes 90s rock into a new category.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Green Day is officially an 'oldies' band now

I was thinking that Green Day would you consider them to be classic rock at this point... yeah I guess... when does the 90s become classic rock... I think it's now. Fuck. I think Green Day is an oldies band.

Generational labels are subjective, but musically, Green Day's prime material is now 30+ years old, fitting the traditional 'classic' or 'oldies' window.

The "Bama vs. the Dolphins" debate also reared its ugly head again. With Miami looking like a team actively trying to lose every game, the guys debated just how much help the Crimson Tide would need to actually pull off the upset.

Void
HankHank

Alabama could beat the Dolphins if they had Tom Brady and Bill Belichick

Hank, could Alabama beat the Dolphins if they had Tom Brady as a quarterback? Tom Brady as a quarterback, Belichick as the other coach... [Hank]: Yes. With that type of strategy, like give him two weeks to prepare... Yeah.

The outcome is impossible to verify, but historically the talent gap between pros and college remains too high regardless of the QB.

Guys on Chicks with Uncle Chaps

To wrap things up, Uncle Chaps joined the show while sporting a truly gnarly eye infection that he claims was caused by a DIY banana face mask. Despite the visual distraction, Chaps delivered on Guys on Chicks, providing advice on everything from boyfriend depression after a Jets loss to the proper timeline for certain intimate maneuvers.

Void
Uncle ChapsUncle Chaps

69 is a seventh-date move

69 is a seven date move also... Seventh date. Let's do a 69. But it's going to be 69 with a caveat that she's on top because she's not ready for my butthole by eight.

OpinionLifeHotSubjectiveSarcastic
Inherently subjective dating 'rules'.

Chaps also gave his honest assessment of the Jaguars' quarterback situation following the Nick Foles injury. While he admitted his initial excitement for Foles was mostly for show, he’s legitimately all-in on the Gardner Minshew era in Jacksonville.

Win
Uncle ChapsUncle Chaps

Gardner Minshew is going to be a good quarterback

He wasn't elevating anybody else. He was just getting the ball out on time and things like that. I thought maybe he could do that in Jacksonville, rely on the defense... so I think Gardner's going to be okay. I like Gardner. I like his accuracy.

Minshew finished 2019 with 21 TDs and 6 INTs, becoming a fan favorite and proving he could play at the NFL level.

Keep an eye on the waiver wire for Minshew and an eye on the calendar for Gronk’s potential Week 14 return.

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Push
Sep 11, 2019
#25905
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Raiders were on a mission and would have beaten any team on Monday night after the Antonio Brown drama

The Raiders weren't going to lose last night. It could have been anybody. It could have been the 85 Bears out there... The Raiders were going to be on a mission from the get-go. They spent the entire week hearing about Antonio Brown, hearing about how they were going to suck, how they had no hope... Anytime that happens, especially before a Monday night game, the team's going to be motivated to play a little bit extra hard. That was a team that was going to beat anybody.

The Raiders did beat the Broncos 24-16 in that game, but finished the season 7-9 and didn't sustain that 'beat anyone' energy.
Void
Sep 11, 2019
#25906
Big CatBig Cat

Vic Fangio's decision to kick a field goal down 21-6 with 10 minutes left was a loser's move

When [Vic Fangio] kicked that field goal down 21-6 with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, you need two touchdowns no matter what. He kicked a field goal to then need two touchdowns no matter what... why are you so afraid of not getting a fourth down when kicking a field goal is essentially admitting defeat there?

Subjective football strategy, though most modern analytics would agree with Big Cat that kicking there significantly lowers win probability.
Push
Sep 11, 2019
#10035
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Las Vegas Raiders stadium will be filled with bachelor parties instead of real fans

I don't think the fans aren't going to travel from Oakland to Las Vegas. I don't think they will. I think the stadium's going to be filled with a bunch of bachelor parties and bachelorette parties all dressed up in costumes.

Vegas games have notoriously high numbers of opposing fans and tourists, though bachelor parties aren't the primary demographic.
Win
Sep 11, 2019
#10036
Big CatBig Cat

Bill O'Brien is the most mediocre coach in the NFL

Bill O'Brien sucks. That guy, he's got to be the most mediocre coach who's been around forever.

O'Brien was fired in 2020 after an 0-4 start and disastrous personnel decisions (like trading Hopkins), cementing his reputation as a mediocre-to-poor leadership figure.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vaping is about to see a spike in use because it has become 'rebellious' again

My cool throw is vaping because there's been a real spike... in vaping deaths. So now vaping has kind of turned the corner. It's like it's a bad boy thing... well now vaping has entered that realm because it's killing people... I think it's going to see a spike in use.

PredictionLifeFireSarcastic
Vaping use among teens actually saw a significant drop following the 2019 EVALI outbreak and the 'T21' federal law raising the tobacco age to 21.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alabama could beat the Miami Dolphins

The Dolphins are trash. The Dolphins are trash and Alabama can beat them. What's a better, what's a better debate? That is Yukon women's basketball bad for women's basketball... Or which school is the real DBU?

No, Alabama would not beat an NFL team. The gap between college and pros is too vast, regardless of how bad the Dolphins were.
Void
Sep 11, 2019
#25907
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

I am stronger now at 245 pounds than I was when I played at 265

I lost 15, 20 pounds. And the weight I lost, I call it bullshit weight... bloated weight. I'm actually stronger now. I'm 245 right now... I'm ripped. It feels good. I feel lighter. I feel quicker. I feel faster. I feel more energy.

Hard to verify 'strength' outside of specific lift numbers, but he claims he's better physically.
Void
Sep 11, 2019
#10044
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

The '69' joke is starting to fade away

I was actually just talking about that on the ride here... me and Goon were driving up, and we were like, yo, 69? Isn't that – it's kind of like in the past... 69 jokes kind of faded away, which they kind of have. I totally 100% agree.

Subjective cultural observation, though the 69 joke remains tied to Gronk's legacy.
Win
Sep 11, 2019
#25908
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

Bill Belichick never actually told me I was the best tight end he ever coached

[Big Cat]: Did he ever sit down with you and have a moment where he's like, 'hey, Gronk, you're the best tight end I've ever coached?' [Gronk]: No, not really. Never fully let you know? Never not like that. No, no. I mean, he's not a guy like that. I would say he keeps everyone humbled in there.

This is a personal recollection of his interactions with his coach.
Win
Uncle ChapsUncle Chaps

I always thought Nick Foles was going to be a huge bust in Jacksonville

To be completely honest, my excitement about the Nick Foles era was completely fake. It was fake. I thought that he was going to be a bust. I thought that he was going to be a huge bust in Jacksonville where everything was perfect for him in the Eagle system.

Foles' tenure in Jacksonville was a disaster; he played in only 4 games, threw 3 TDs vs 2 INTs, and was traded away for a 4th-round pick after one season.

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