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Scott Van Pelt and Stanford Steve

Wednesday, February 8, 201720 takes

The guys are inside the mothership in Bristol to appear on Sportscenter with Scott Van Pelt. Hank is back from Houston and we wrap up story lines from Super Bowl 51. ( - ). Hot Seat, Cool Throne. ( - ) Scott Van Pelt and Stanford Steve join the show to talk about behind the scenes of their show, how we did on Sportscenter, and our team review of the ESPN cafeteria. ( - ) Segments include the debut of "Lebron Blames", PR 101, Trouble in Paradise, Hmmmm, Stay Woke, and a not to brag but phone call with Jim Rome after his new contract with CBS after coming on our show.

Scott Van Pelt and Stanford Steve on SportsCenter and Super Bowl Chokes

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are transmitting from deep inside the mothership in Bristol, Connecticut. After a surreal appearance on the midnight edition of SportsCenter, the guys are joined by the host himself, Scott Van Pelt, and his right-hand man, Stanford Steve. The energy is high, partly from the adrenaline of being on live cable and partly because the guys spent a good chunk of their visit exploring the ESPN cafeteria and peeing in famous toilets.

Before the guests sit down, Hank is back from Houston with a gravelly voice and a championship hangover. The crew tries to make sense of Super Bowl 51, specifically how the Falcons managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Hank isn't holding back on his own team's opponent.

Win
Feb 8, 2017
#19536
HankHank

The Falcons choked the Super Bowl away to the Patriots

I think the Falcons choked it away pretty hard. I didn't realize how bad the choke was until I saw the Patriots should have lost in four different wins.

The Falcons leading 28-3 in the third quarter and losing is statistically the greatest collapse in NFL history.

Big Cat pointed the finger directly at the Falcons' offensive coordinator, suggesting that overthinking the game plan was the ultimate downfall in Atlanta.

Win
Feb 8, 2017
#27491
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons lost the Super Bowl because Kyle Shanahan got 'too smart' and stopped running the ball

I don't know why they stopped running. Kyle Shanahan... Got a little too smart. You know what would have been funny is if they had just pulled his offer [to coach the 49ers]. Actually, you know what? The 49ers would probably kill half their homeless population just to get to a Super Bowl.

The Falcons famously led 28-3 and stopped running late in the game, leading to the Patriots' historic comeback.

Naturally, the conversation shifted to how many more rings Tom Brady can actually fit on his hands. While the world thinks he's immortal, PFT is looking for signs of "creeping death" in every underthrown pass. Big Cat is slightly more optimistic about the longevity of the TB12 method.

Push
Feb 8, 2017
#19537
Big CatBig Cat

Tom Brady will win one more Super Bowl to finish with six

I think that Brady's going to win one more Super Bowl. I think we'll get two. I think he'll win six.

Brady finished with 7 rings, winning two more after this podcast aired.

Hot Seat, Cool Throne

Hot Seat belongs to Nick Saban, mostly because he can't seem to keep a coordinator for more than ten minutes. PFT thinks the addition of Chip Kelly to the Alabama staff is a recipe for a Shakespearean betrayal.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chip Kelly will try to steal someone's job as a behind-the-scenes villain at Alabama

If there's somebody who's able to undermine and sneak around and steal somebody's job, it's definitely Chip. Chip is a behind-the-scenes Shakespearean villain. He's going to be doing everything that he can to make sure he gets that job.

Chip Kelly never actually joined the Alabama staff; he remained in media before taking the UCLA head coach job in late 2017.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alabama could win 10 games with my dick as offensive coordinator

At the very least, Chip's going to win 10 games at Alabama because Alabama could win 10 games with my dick at offensive coordinator.

Hot TakeCFBScorchingSarcastic
While anatomically impossible, Alabama did continue to win 10+ games annually, proving the point about their program's floor.

Cool Throne goes to Phil Jackson, who continues to be the ultimate finesse artist in New York. Big Cat finds it hard not to respect the hustle of a man who found the perfect mark in James Dolan.

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Big CatBig Cat

Phil Jackson is only at the Knicks because James Dolan is a sucker

I respect [Phil Jackson] for spotting the sucker in the room and basically saying, oh, James Dolan wants me to come and work for him, and I don't have to move, and I don't have to do anything, and he's going to pay me millions of dollars. What's the worst going to happen?

Jackson's tenure as Knicks President was widely considered a failure; he was fired in June 2017, just months after this episode.

SVP and Stanford Steve

The interview with Scott Van Pelt and Stanford Steve gets into the weeds of how SportsCenter with SVP is built every night. It’s basically just a high-budget version of guys hanging out in a sportsbook, watching every game simultaneously. SVP admits that while he keeps it professional, watching his Maryland Terrapins lose makes him a nightmare to be around.

The conversation also turned to the Capitals and their perennial status as the team that should have won it all by now. SVP is still holding out hope for the President's Cup winners.

Win
Feb 8, 2017
#19543
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

The Washington Capitals are too good to never win a Stanley Cup

They're too good to never win one. But, I mean, they were the Presidents' Cup trophy winners last year... They have the most points in the league.

The Capitals won the Stanley Cup in 2018, just one year after this take.

They also discussed the integration of gambling talk into the mainstream broadcast. SVP and Steve have been pioneers in making "Bad Beats" a staple, and they agree that the landscape of sports media would look a lot different without the betting element.

Win
Feb 8, 2017
#27492
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sports TV ratings would be considerably lower if there was no sports gambling

The ratings in general for places like ESPN and all the networks that are airing sports would be considerably lower if there was no sports gambling at all.

While hard to isolate, the massive viewership for late-game spreads and the subsequent lean-in from major leagues and networks supports this.
Win
Feb 8, 2017
#19544
Scott Van PeltScott Van Pelt

Sports gambling will be legal everywhere in the next 10 years

When do you think it's going to be legalized? ... I don't know, 10 years? I mean, how many states right now can you buy weed legally? ... It's going to be legal in some period of time. I don't know what the time frame is.

The Supreme Court overturned the federal ban in 2018; sports betting is now legal in the majority of US states.

LeBron Blames and PR 101

A new segment makes its debut: LeBron Blames. LeBron is currently blaming everyone from the media to Charles Barkley for his problems, but the guys think it's time to check the hierarchy in Cleveland.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cavaliers are now Kyrie Irving's team, not LeBron James'

Kyrie hit the big shot. You know why? So now here's the question. This is Kyrie's team.

Hot TakeBasketballHotSarcastic
While Kyrie was a superstar, it was widely acknowledged as LeBron's team until he left in 2018. Kyrie himself requested a trade later that year precisely because he wanted to lead his own team.

In PR 101, the Boston Bruins get a massive shoutout for the most cynical and effective coaching fire in sports history. They managed to dump Claude Julien right as the city was distracted by millions of people celebrating the Patriots.

Win
Feb 8, 2017·PR 101
#19546
Big CatBig Cat

The Bruins firing Claude Julien during the Patriots parade is the greatest PR 101 move ever

The Boston Bruins who fired Claude Julien... The morning of the New England Patriots parade and held a press conference during the parade. That is the greatest PR 101 story of all time.

Firing a beloved, championship-winning coach during the height of a Super Bowl parade is a textbook way to minimize negative coverage.

The guys also roasted Mark Wahlberg for his questionable exit from the Super Bowl. While Mark claims he left because of a sick kid, the PMT crew smells a convenient excuse for a fan who didn't want to watch his team get blown out.

Void
Feb 8, 2017·PR 101
#19547
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mark Wahlberg used his sick kid as an excuse to leave the Super Bowl early

That is an unbelievable story, the fact that he got exposed for leaving early and then threw his kid out there. ... The blame aspect is really strong in that.

While never proven to be a lie, the timing was incredibly suspicious and is a lasting piece of Wahlberg/Patriots fan lore.
Void
Feb 8, 2017·PR 101
#27494
Big CatBig Cat

One of the only benefits of having children is being able to use them as an excuse to avoid events

That is like one of the only pluses to having children... is to basically be able to blame. I can't go to this because my kid is sick or I can't go to this. I got to put the kid down. It's like getting a dog. ... I got to walk my dog. I can't be over here.

Inherently subjective and personal lifestyle opinion.

To wrap things up, the show introduced a new recurring question for future guests: What was the first boob you ever saw? Hank and PFT both pointed toward a 1980s comedy classic that definitely over-delivered on its rating.

Void
Feb 8, 2017·First Boob
#27496
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The movie 'Airplane!' is likely the source of most people's 'first boob' because of its PG rating

I think that Airplane! has got to be up there because it's comedy. It's a PG, and you get people like our age that liked it when we were kids. They let their kids see it, and they forget that there's a boob in it. But there's two boobs, the same woman.

This is a recurring anecdotal 'fact' among people born in the 80s/90s, though unprovable.

If you see a guy in a Hawaiian shirt doing butt-scoots on the ESPN lobby rug, mind your business.

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More Takes

Win
Feb 8, 2017
#19538
HankHank

Tom Brady will win two more Super Bowls to finish with seven

I think he'll get two [more]. I think he'll win six—actually, I think he'll win seven.

Brady won SB 53 with the Patriots and SB 55 with the Buccaneers, finishing his career with 7 rings.
Loss
Feb 8, 2017
#19539
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears are going to be good next year because John Fox has been preparing since Week 3

John Fox has actually been able to prepare since week three. Yeah. So the Bears are going to be looking good.

The 2017 Bears went 5-11 and finished last in their division.
Win
Feb 8, 2017·PR 101
#27493
Big CatBig Cat

If a coach with personal issues wants to rehab their career, they should go work for Nick Saban

This is PR 101 in general for any coaches out there who might have a drinking problem... Lane Kiffin looking at you. If you want to be rehabbed, go to Nick Saban. Let Nick Saban scream in your face in front of the nation on Saturday afternoons on CBS... and you'll be back on track.

Steve Sarkisian, Lane Kiffin, and many others successfully used Alabama as a platform to secure new high-profile head coaching roles.
Win
Feb 8, 2017·Hmm
#19548
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Brady lied about his health all season despite being on the injury report

I just couldn't help but notice that Tom Brady appeared on the injury report a lot this year. And he just said, I never hurt. My arm never hurt. My body never hurt. But he was on the injury report every week.

The Patriots were notorious for listing Brady on the injury report for minor things (like a right shoulder) for years to obfuscate his actual status.
Loss
HankHank

The Celtics will win the title because Tom Brady texted Isaiah Thomas

He [Brady] went out of his way to text Isaiah Thomas... and say, it's your turn. ... I think when someone like Tom Brady can reach it out to you, that can really [lead to a title].

The Celtics did not win the title; they lost to the Cavaliers in the 2017 Eastern Conference Finals.
Void
Feb 8, 2017
#27495
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Isaiah Thomas is in the 'Jimmy Butler zone' of being good, but not great

I think that Isaiah Thomas is firmly in my Jimmy Butler zone. ... Good, not great.

Isaiah Thomas had an All-NBA season in 2017 but his career declined shortly after due to injury; Butler eventually surpassed this tier.

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