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Tom Crabtree 11/30/16

Wednesday, November 30, 201619 takes

Tiger Woods is officially back and so is the debate around pro athletes taking paternal leave (Al Horford). Hank is back from his vacation and ready to receive compliments for #GivingTuesday. Power Rankings of people you wouldn't want to get in a fight with if they were wearing this specific NFL jersey. Hot seat Cool throne (-). Former Green Bay Packer Tom Crabtree joins the show to talk Aaron Rodgers, MACtion, and dog diarrhea(-). Segments include PR 101 for Johnny Manziel (-) and RGIII, Respect The Shield (-), Stay Woke, Kings Stay Kings, Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules, and Hank's hot in the streets.

Tom Crabtree on Aaron Rodgers, MACtion, and Dog Diarrhea

Tiger Woods is officially back, or at least he says he's not dead. While the fanboys are celebrating Phase 2 of Tiger's career, Big Cat is busy reminding everyone that Phase 1 ended with Navy SEAL workouts, fire hydrants, and a very expensive back injury.

Win
Nov 30, 2016
#3523
Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods fanboys are delusional if they think the old Tiger is coming back

I just can't stand the Tiger fanboys that think old Tiger's coming back. He said it's phase two, which is nice. He leaves out the point that Phase 1 stopped after he became addicted to working out with Navy SEALs, cheated on his wife, crashed into a fire hydrant and hurt his back a million times.

Tiger didn't win another major until 2019 and never returned to his early 2000s level of dominance, though he did have a late-career resurgence.

Speaking of people taking time off, Al Horford skipped a Celtics game for the birth of his child. Big Cat and PFT are having none of it. In a world where basketball is forever and kids are, well, statistically safer than they were in the 1700s, the guys think Al's priorities are a bit skewed.

Void
Nov 30, 2016
#3524
Big CatBig Cat

Al Horford should not have missed a game for the birth of his child because basketball is forever

Al Horford skipped a game to be with his wife who is having a kid. But come on, man. They could have lost. It's a kid. Kids come and go. Basketball is forever.

This is a subjective value judgment delivered as satire.

Intimidating Jerseys and Giving Tuesday

Hank is finally back from his cruise, and to celebrate #GivingTuesday, Big Cat and PFT showered him with compliments about his hair and his ability to not lose a cell phone for three consecutive days. The good vibes didn't last long, though, as they pivoted into a Power Ranking of NFL jerseys you'd least want to see across from you in a stadium fight.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cowboys do not have an intimidating fan base.

I've been to a few Cowboys games. That's not a very intimidating fan base.

This is a subjective assessment of a fan base's reputation.

While Hank went with Aaron Hernandez (the ultimate throwback) and Suggs, PFT pointed out that anyone still rocking a Deshaun Jackson Eagles jersey is actively looking for a confrontation. On the flip side, if you want to look as non-threatening as possible, Big Cat has a specific recommendation.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

A J.J. Watt jersey is the least intimidating jersey an NFL fan can wear.

The least intimidating jersey has to be a J.J. Watt jersey.

Subjective assessment of jersey optics.

Tom Crabtree on the Packers Narrative

Former Packers tight end Tom Crabtree joined the show to discuss the state of Green Bay and, more importantly, his dog's current struggle with diarrhea. Crabtree isn't buying the narrative that Aaron Rodgers has lost his touch or become a weird loner in the locker room. According to Tom, Rodgers is still the guy who sends random Nickelback memes and asks about your kids.

Win
Nov 30, 2016
#3526
Tom CrabtreeTom Crabtree

Aaron Rodgers isn't washed; the Packers' defensive injuries are the real problem

I don't think [Rodgers] was ever gone. I mean, their defense kind of sucks. So that's not really helping his cause when he's throwing for 300 yards and three touchdowns and they still lost. I don't really get that whole narrative. They've got a lot of injuries, especially on defense.

Rodgers led the Packers to six straight wins to finish the season and reach the NFC Championship Game shortly after this take.

Crabtree also cleared up some Wikipedia misinformation, confirming he is actually a lifelong Michigan fan despite being raised in Columbus. He didn't hold back on the Wolverines' recent loss to Ohio State, placing the blame squarely on the players rather than the refs.

Void
Nov 30, 2016
#26988
Tom CrabtreeTom Crabtree

Wilton Speight choked against Ohio State and is more to blame for the loss than the officiating.

Speight kind of blew it... He was choking about every series. He's tripping on his own feet, he's fumbling, he's throwing picks... I'm not on board with the whole officiating thing. I think that's ridiculous.

Speight had three turnovers in the game; the assessment is subjective but supported by statistics.

Before letting him go, the guys asked if there was any price that could get the retired tight end back on the field. Turns out, everyone has a number, especially when the Packers' depth chart is looking thin.

Void
Nov 30, 2016
#3527
Tom CrabtreeTom Crabtree

I would un-retire and return to the Packers if they offered $1 million per game

If the Green Bay Packers called you up tomorrow and said, we'll give you a million dollars a game. Come back for the rest of the season. You doing it? Yeah, yeah, I'm doing that. I am un-retiring, yeah. If they're doing that, I'm back.

The Packers never offered him $1 million per game, and he remained retired.

Hot Seat, Cool Throne and PR 101

Hot Seat belongs to the "C-word" (Christmas) and anyone complaining about Thursday Night Football. Big Cat is a firm believer that more football is always better, regardless of the quality of the Color Rush matchup.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

More football is always better, so everyone complaining about Thursday Night Football should shut up

I would need people on Twitter, all the nerds out there who keep complaining about Thursday night: Shut up. More football is always better. Don't do this. You're ruining it. I hate people who are like, Thursday night football sucks. Guess what? It's better than no football.

Subjective opinion on entertainment quality.

In a classic PR 101 segment, the guys checked in on their old friend Johnny Manziel, who is being sued for allegedly breaking a bartender's nose. For Big Cat, this is just a vital sign that Johnny is still out there doing Johnny things.

Void
Nov 30, 2016·PR 101
#3529
Big CatBig Cat

Johnny Manziel needs to get sued or arrested every few months just to let us know he's alive

Johnny Manziel is being sued because apparently he broke some bartender's nose. Good to know Johnny Manziel is still alive. We need him to get sued or arrested every few months to let us know that he's alive.

This is a humorous commentary on celebrity news cycles.

PFT also dropped a massive 'Stay Woke' linking NFL team success to the recent election results. It turns out that if your team sucks, you're probably ready to vote for literally anyone else to run the country.

Void
Nov 30, 2016·Stay Woke
#3530
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Voters are more likely to support political change when their local NFL team is losing

When your football team is good, you're more likely to vote for an incumbent. And when your football team's bad, you're more likely to vote for a new guy. The Jaguars and Dolphins sucked up until Election Day. Wisconsin voted Trump. Steelers sucked at the start of the year, Pennsylvania voted Trump. Carolina Panthers suck, North Carolina voted for Trump too.

The states mentioned did indeed flip or vote for Trump, and those teams were struggling at the time of the election. Whether there is a causal link is unprovable.

To wrap up the show, the guys looked at the LA Rams, where Jeff Fisher continues to be the ultimate survivor. Despite a record that would get anyone else fired, the Rams' front office seems convinced that Fisher is doing a "model job" of existing.

Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams will announce an extension for Jeff Fisher immediately following their next win

Right now, after the Rams' next win, they're going to announce the extension. He's getting out in front of the story right now, laying a nice mattress down so that nobody's shocked. Next win of the Rams, they're going to use that as the premise to announce an extension.

The extension was announced on December 4th, 2016, following a loss to the Patriots, not a win. Fisher was then fired on December 12th.

Don't be the guy with the tie around your head at the wedding this weekend.

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More Takes

Void
Nov 30, 2016
#26991
Big CatBig Cat

Al Horford should have just blamed his move to Boston instead of his kid for missing a game.

Don't blame it on the kid. Don't blame it on the pregnancy. Just say, hey, guess what, guys? Moving sucks. And everyone will be like, yeah, you know what? You're right.

Subjective comedic take.
Void
HankHank

Wearing a Colin Kaepernick jersey is an invitation for confrontation.

If you wear a Kaepernick jersey, you're asking for confrontation. So it could ignite conversation.

Subjective observation of the cultural climate in 2016.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Raiders fans fighting doesn't stick out as much now because the team is actually winning.

Raiders fans fighting because the Raiders are good. So it doesn't stick out as much. It used to be like, damn, the Raiders suck. All that we ever see is Raiders fans fighting. Now it's like, oh, Derek Carr's pretty fun.

Subjective opinion on media perception.
Win
Nov 30, 2016
#26989
Tom CrabtreeTom Crabtree

Jay Cutler will always leave fans wanting more with flashes of greatness before he inevitably self-implodes.

That's the cool thing about Cutler as a Packers fan and player. It was like he's going to leave you like – he's going to leave those Bears fans wanting more and like, oh, look at this. Look at this flash of greatness. And then he'll totally just self-implode.

This summarizes the prevailing narrative and statistics of Cutler's career in Chicago.
Void
Nov 30, 2016
#3528
Tom CrabtreeTom Crabtree

Greg Schiano failed as an NFL head coach because he focused too much on minor details

I think his biggest downfall as a head coach was he focused on way too many details. You kind of lost sight of the big picture. I was focused on, okay, if we recover a fumble, this is how my hands have to be and I need to tuck it into my body at a 90 degree angle. It was so many little details and you were on pins and needles.

This is a professional assessment based on firsthand experience.
Void
Nov 30, 2016·PR 101
#26990
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

RGIII is the most gullible person in sports and is the sucker in every room.

RGIII, I mean, he's basically just the sucker in every room. If you're in a room with RGIII, you're good. You're not the sucker... He would play three-card monte until the sun went down. He'd be Instagramming and laughing every time he lost.

Subjective characterization.
Loss
Nov 30, 2016
#3531
Big CatBig Cat

Jeff Fisher has done a model job providing leadership and consistency for the Rams despite his losing record.

LA Rams COO Kevin Demoff said it's unfair to judge head coach Jeff Fisher on record. Kings stay Kings. Everybody will want to judge Jeff through the prism of just the record, but that's totally unfair... To provide leadership and consistency, he's done a model job.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Sarcastic take mocking the Rams' lack of success. Fisher was fired in December 2016 shortly after this episode aired.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL should award one point for a kickoff that goes through the uprights

John Harbaugh wants to make the kickoff worth one point if his kicker can kick it through the uprights. I like this rule though. We need more kickers. I've been saying for years that if you hit the upright, it should be worth extra.

The NFL has not adopted this rule change.

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