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Vince Carter + Mt Rushmore Of Stadium Foods

Monday, June 25, 201817 takes

We've caught World Cup Fever and Messi fired his Coach. Don't count out the Germans and surprise surprise the Russians may be doping. (-) Mt Rushmore of food/beverage at a stadium. (-) Who's back of the week including cleaniness because Big Cat finally cleaned his pile, sort of. (-) Vince Carter joins the show to talk about his career in the NBA, dunking his balls on French guys, Vinsanity, and who is his GOAT (-). Segments include Talking Tennis (-), Spinzone for Blake Bortles (-), Protect the Shield (-), and an update on Mike Greenberg's dumb rules, someone actually tried PFT's crazy no catcher idea in a game. (-)

Vince Carter on NBA Longevity, GOAT Debates, and Dunking on France

Big Cat and PFT are fully possessed by World Cup fever, even if they’re still figuring out the finer points of the beautiful game. Between Argentina mutinying against their own coach and the English media falling in love with Harry Kane, the guys are finding plenty to pick apart. Big Cat isn't buying the hype on England's star striker just yet.

Push
Jun 25, 2018
#13777
Big CatBig Cat

Harry Kane is a 'fraud' because he only scores tap-ins and penalties

Harry Kane, still a bust in my mind [because] he just only scores from like two feet out. He basically didn't even have to [try for the hat trick]. He just showed up, and I could have gotten that hat trick. I just need to hit two penalty shots.

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Kane went on to win the Golden Boot in this World Cup (6 goals), though three were penalties and one was a deflection off his heel, partially supporting the 'fraudulent' nature of the stats but proving he was elite at being in position.

Beyond the pitch, PFT has some broader theories on why the sport is even popular, mostly involving his belief that it isn't quite as grueling as the world makes it out to be.

Void
Jun 25, 2018
#13775
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Soccer players are frauds and the sport isn't that difficult to play

Soccer players are frauds. I don't think that it's that difficult to play soccer.

The difficulty of professional soccer is subjective, but as a take, it's a high-level provocation.

Mount Rushmore of Stadium Foods

With baseball season in full swing, it was time to draft the ultimate Mount Rushmore of stadium food and beverages. PFT went heavy on the classics with domestic beer and nachos, while Big Cat went for the higher ceiling of a stadium Mai Tai. However, the real debate sparked when Bubba tried to white-knight for Cracker Jacks, leading to a total teardown of the snack's reputation.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Cracker Jacks are the coleslaw of candy

Cracker Jacks are the coleslaw of candy. They're good for like a handful. Yeah, and nobody really likes it. It's more about the visual of walking around with a thing of Cracker Jacks.

This is a subjective opinion on the quality of a snack.

Big Cat made it clear that while some people go for the fancy new items, the classics are classics for a reason, provided you handle the toppings like a professional.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

A hot dog or sausage at a stadium is incomplete without grilled onions

You can't get a hot dog or a sausage in a stadium without doing the grilled onions. I'll walk to the ends of earth. There'll be one stand that has grilled onions. You've got to get to that stand. If you don't do that, you're just a rookie.

Purely a matter of personal taste in stadium food.

Vince Carter Joins the Show

Vinsanity himself, Vince Carter, joined the show to discuss how he’s managed to stay relevant and productive through twenty seasons in the NBA. As one of only seven players to reach that milestone, Carter has seen the league evolve from the physical, half-court grind of the 90s to the current pace-and-space era. When the conversation turned to the GOAT debate, Carter gave a veteran’s perspective on MJ, Kobe, and LeBron.

Void
Jun 25, 2018
#13785
Vince CarterVince Carter

Michael Jordan is the GOAT, followed closely by Kobe Bryant

I still have to give it to MJ. With a close Kobe second. It's hard for me playing the game right now to give a guy [LeBron James] that crown because I'm still in the game. And he's still in the game, too. I cannot do that.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.

Carter also touched on the rise of super teams, noting that while the talent is undeniable, the chemistry required to make it work is rare. He believes the league is at risk of losing its competitive balance if the trend continues unchecked.

Void
Jun 25, 2018
#13787
Vince CarterVince Carter

Super teams threaten to water down the NBA

The only thing I just hope that doesn't happen is the league becomes watered down because so many teams are trying to create a super team to where you have 10 teams of the 30 having all the best players. And then what does that do with the rest of the league? Everyone else is tanking. That just hurts the NBA at the end of the day.

This is an ongoing debate about the NBA's competitive balance.

Before letting him go, the guys asked about his retirement plans and his wardrobe, specifically if he still has any of that iconic early-2000s gear sitting in his closet.

Loss
Jun 25, 2018
#13789
Vince CarterVince Carter

I will play in the NBA for only one more season

[Question: How many more years you got?] One. That's it? Yes.

Incorrect. Carter actually played two more seasons after this interview (2018-19 with Atlanta and 2019-20 with Atlanta) before retiring in 2020.

Who’s Back and the Pile

Who’s Back featured a heavy dose of Carmelo Anthony talk after he opted into his contract with the Thunder. While Bubba has a theory that Melo’s name alone has bought him five extra years of career longevity, Big Cat is worried about how the legend’s final years are staining his legacy.

Win
Jun 25, 2018·Who's Back
#13783
Big CatBig Cat

History will remember Carmelo Anthony as someone who sucked, forgetting how good he actually was

Here's what's going to happen to Melo, which kind of sucks. Because Melo, I mean, all-time scorer... He's definitely going to play for a couple more years, and everyone's going to look back and be like, Melo sucked. They will not remember that Melo was very, very good.

This prediction is largely coming true as Melo's later years with the Thunder and Rockets often dominate modern discourse over his Nuggets/Knicks peak.

Big Cat also celebrated the "cleanliness" of his office pile, which mostly involved an intern stuffing two years' worth of mystery boxes and old snacks into plastic bins. They didn't find the legendary fortune cookies, but they did find some Gushers that had likely seen three different NBA administrations.

To wrap up the show, PFT received some vindication for his "no catcher" baseball rule when a listener submitted a story about a youth league actually attempting the strategy with hilariously violent results for the umpires.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Baseball should remove the catcher position for the first two strikes with no one on base

My idea was to just remove the catcher and put the catcher in the infield or the outfield against a batter when there's nobody on base for the first two strikes. Yeah, the umpire gets hit a few times with some fastballs or whatever, but you don't need a catcher. Like who cares if the game's delayed a little bit?

This is a radical rule change proposal that has never been seriously considered in professional baseball.

If you see a catcher standing in the outfield this summer, just know PFT saw it coming first.

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More Takes

Push
Jun 25, 2018
#13778
Big CatBig Cat

Russia is definitely doping and FIFA is choosing to ignore it

Russia's doping and FIFA doesn't care. There's a report that came out that basically the entire team doped in 2014, the entire team's doping now, and FIFA has actually gotten the documents and been like, eh, we'll just let this one slide.

Extensive reports (including the McLaren Report) detailed Russian doping, but official FIFA investigations into the 2018 squad specifically did not result in sanctions during the tournament.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The best stadium food is anything you can throw the shell or remains of on the floor

The best is just any food that you can eat and then throw away. Throw away the shell of it and you don't give a shit.

Subjective preference for the experience of eating at a ballpark.
Void
Jun 25, 2018·Who's Back
#13781
Liam (Bubba)Liam (Bubba)

Carmelo Anthony has staying power because he has the coolest basketball name ever

Have you guys heard the theory why he [Carmelo Anthony] has so much staying power? It's just because he has the coolest basketball name of all time. Like if his name was like John Brown, he would have been benched years ago.

Subjective theory on NBA stardom and career longevity.
Void
Jun 25, 2018·Who's Back
#24719
Big CatBig Cat

Women prefer 'soccer bodies' over any other male physique

I know you remember the dad bod thing that women pretended, like, oh yeah, we love guys who are kind of fat and don't care. That was so nice of them. But really, when it comes down to it, if you ask a woman, I guarantee you they go soccer bod over any other bod.

Subjective claim about general attraction, though rooted in observations of viral World Cup players.
Win
Jun 25, 2018
#13788
Vince CarterVince Carter

Baggy clothes will eventually come back into fashion

Everything is going to come full circle. The baggy clothes... I still have my Coogee sweaters. And they're starting to slowly come back. It's going to all come back, bro.

Fashion is cyclical, and oversized/baggy styles indeed returned to prominence in the early 2020s.
Void
Jun 25, 2018
#24720
Vince CarterVince Carter

Super teams only work if stars are willing to be unselfish for the bigger picture

Everybody tries to create the Golden State Warriors basketball team. But the problem is you have to have the guys that are willing to still be the stars that they are, but unselfish. Those guys are unselfish... You put your ego aside for winning. If you can't get guys to buy in, it's not happening.

Subjective veteran insight into team dynamics.
Void
Jun 25, 2018
#24721
Vince CarterVince Carter

Allen Iverson was the toughest player I ever had to guard

[Question: Toughest guy to guard?] Allen Iverson.

Personal professional opinion based on his playing career.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL is right to refuse Laurent Duvernay-Tardif's request to put 'MD' on his jersey

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif finishes medical school... and asked the NFL he could put MD on the back of his uniform and they said no. I agree with them. Too many doctors, and we might start figuring out what concussions are like. This isn't the National Medical League, okay? This is football.

Big Cat is being satirical about the NFL's stance on concussions and player branding.

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