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Bill Burr, Rugby Legend Tendai Mtawarira, NFL Week 7 Picks And Fyre Fest Of The Week With A Hypothetical Podcast Fight

Friday, October 22, 202118 takes

We're live from Colorado so we pretaped our Thursday Night Football predictions. Talk some Ben Simmons update, playoff baseball and Coach O(-). Week 7 preview and picks plus the worst segment weve ever done "Island Boys”(-). Bill Burr joins the show to talk about his upcoming tour, sports stories in the news and tons more(-). Rugby Legend Tendai Mtwarira joins the show live in studio to talk about his career, playing Rugby at the highest level and being "The Beast”(-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and a hypothetical fight against another podcast(-).

Bill Burr and Tendai Mtawarira on NFL Rules, Rugby, and Podcast Fights

Big Cat and PFT are coming to you live from Colorado, and the altitude is already starting to play tricks on their minds. Between the thin air and the impending Broncos-Browns matchup, the vibe is pure chaos. The show kicks off with a look at the ongoing Ben Simmons saga in Philadelphia. Big Cat is tired of the excuses and thinks the Sixers have been patient enough.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19978
Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons is the reason the Philadelphia 76ers have been held back

I keep saying it and I feel like there's some people who still don't understand it. Like Ben Simmons is the reason why the Sixers have been held back. It's not that he, like if Joel Embiid was holding out, it'd be a completely different scenario here because Joel Embiid is their best player by far in away.

The Sixers traded Simmons for James Harden and eventually moved on, but failed to make a conference finals even after his departure, suggesting systemic issues beyond just Simmons.

PFT is trying to be supportive of Ben's new strategy, but he admits the timing of claiming mental health issues just as the fines started rolling in is certainly a choice.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19979
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If Ben Simmons is faking mental health issues to avoid playing, he is setting mental health awareness back significantly

I applaud Ben Simmons for being so brave. Yes, exactly. I would like to agree. Yeah. I would say it's okay to not be okay... If he is faking it, he's actually setting mental health way back way.

The take is a conditional moral judgment, so it is inherently subjective.

With Daryl Morey basically saying he's willing to wait out the entire length of the contract to get a fair trade, the guys are settling in for what could be a multi-year war of attrition in Philly.

Win
Oct 22, 2021
#28678
Big CatBig Cat

Daryl Morey is making the right move by being willing to wait four years to trade Ben Simmons

Daryl Morey, I think he is probably read 'Art of the Deal' because he said they are willing to have this last four years... he just anchored the negotiation. He said, we're not going to trade him unless we get a true piece back. And if this has to go on for four years, it will go on for four years. Here's to four years. I hope it does, because that would be hilarious. But Daryl Morey. Good, good countermove to Ben Simmons saying he's dealing with mental health.

Morey successfully 'anchored' the negotiation and waited until the trade deadline to get James Harden, proving the patience strategy correct in spirit even if it didn't take four years.

NFL Week 7 Picks and the Last Straw

The Week 7 slate looks like a bit of a graveyard with six teams on bye, including most of the league's fun offenses. That didn't stop the guys from finding some questionable hills to die on. Hank is officially all-in on the most depressing team in football, calling a straight-up win for the winless Detroit Lions over the Rams.

Loss
Oct 22, 2021·Picks
#28674
HankHank

The Detroit Lions will beat the Los Angeles Rams outright

I think they're going to win this one outright. The Detroit Lions... [I am] sprinkling the shit out of the Moneyline. Heavy sprinkle. Heavy pour on the moneyline and Salt Bae on the moneyline.

The Rams defeated the Lions 28-19.

PFT used the segment to make a somber announcement regarding his relationship with the Washington Football Team. After the botched Sean Taylor jersey retirement, he has reached a breaking point with the organization's constant mismanagement.

Void
Oct 22, 2021·Picks
#19981
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am officially on my 'last straw' with the Washington Football Team's organization

My announcement is I am officially on my last straw. Washington football team last straw. In fact, I went out, I bought a straw... If it gets anything bad, happens to the point where I, I lose faith in this organization again. Well, what, what Hank you, what else could they do that during my soul to you? They're only good players dead. And they fucked up his retirement ceremony.

PFT remained a fan through various name changes and the sale of the team, showing the 'last straw' is a recurring theme for him rather than a final break.

Meanwhile, Big Cat is looking at the Bengals as a legitimate threat. He believes their upcoming game against the Ravens is the ultimate litmus test for whether Cincinnati has finally arrived as a contender.

Win
Oct 22, 2021·Picks
#19988
Big CatBig Cat

The Cincinnati Bengals will be officially elevated to a good playoff team if they keep it close or beat the Baltimore Ravens

If the Bengals can keep this close or possibly win this game, they are officially elevated to a good team playoff team. Like, and I think they're right there. I think their defensive played very well.

The Bengals went on to win this game 41-17 and eventually made the Super Bowl, proving this take entirely correct.

Bill Burr on the Internet and NFL Rules

Friend of the program Bill Burr joins the show to talk about his new tour and give his trademark filtered-through-anger takes on the state of the world. Bill is particularly fed up with the way the internet has enabled every person with a keyboard to find a community of like-minded idiots, specifically targeting the "incel" and "flat earth" crowds.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19982
Bill BurrBill Burr

The internet should be shut down or strictly monitored

It's really a, it's a low point, you know, point in, I think the internet should be shut down and, or at least monitored. You gotta somehow, like I've been doing this bit about in cells that, you know, a bunch of people who aren't don't know how to talk to women, talk to a bunch of other people don't know how to talk to women. And in the end, they're all blaming women.

This is a subjective policy opinion.

As a massive sports fan, Bill also weighed in on why the NFL has become so protective of quarterbacks. He doesn't think it's about safety; it's about the bottom line and keeping the stars on the field for the casual viewers who only care about the long ball.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19983
Bill BurrBill Burr

NFL ratings and money are the only reason quarterbacks are over-protected by rules

I think their ratings went down when quarterbacks got hurt and people didn't want to watch the games. So they just started protecting them more so than they ever did... I always choose this money. It's always been about the money. If they actually cared about the players, they wouldn't address this issue decades ago.

It's an opinion on the motive of a corporation, which is subjective but widely debated.

He also took a swipe at the heavy reliance on analytics in the modern game, pointing back to the Seahawks' infamous goal-line interception against his Patriots as the ultimate example of why coaches shouldn't ignore the human element.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#28676
Bill BurrBill Burr

The Seahawks lost Super Bowl XLIX because they followed analytics over the human element of coaching

Analytics and numbers is also why the Seahawks lost to the Patriots because that play the whole year, the worst it was was an incomplete. And that's some of the high percentage. It was a touchdown except on that play that lost in the Super Bowl and it was an interception... What wasn't in the analytics was Bill Belichick knowing about that play and having everybody practice it.

This is a subjective analysis of a past event, though the factual basis of the Seahawks' play-call history is accurate.

Meeting The Beast

One of the greatest rugby players to ever live, Tendai Mtawarira—better known as "The Beast"—stopped by the studio. He explained the origin of his nickname (he was a massive baby even at birth) and discussed his transition from the pitch to the business world. Despite his dominance in rugby, The Beast admitted he often looked at the NFL and wondered what he could have done on the gridiron.

Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19985
Tendai MtawariraTendai Mtawarira

I could have been a great NFL linebacker at my peak

I believe I could have been a great linebacker. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think I would have, you know, I love Aaron Donald and he's probably my favorite player. So I watch a little bit because of this guy... I believe I could have been a great, you know, linebacker.

This is a hypothetical 'what if' that can never be proven.

He's also a massive NBA fan, though he's a self-admitted LeBron James "jersey hopper." While some call it lack of loyalty, Tendai sees it as following the ultimate example of a complete athlete and human being.

Loss
Oct 22, 2021
#19986
Tendai MtawariraTendai Mtawarira

LeBron James is the 'ultimate package' as a human being and will win more NBA championships

I think LeBron is the ultimate package, you know, he is a great athlete, he's a great human being... He's won four rings, he's going to win more.

LeBron James has not won another NBA championship since this take was made.

Fyre Fest and Fighting Ryen Russillo

To wrap things up, the guys addressed a hypothetical fight scenario proposed on Ryen Russillo's podcast. Russillo and his crew apparently think they could take Big Cat, PFT, and Billy in a brawl. Big Cat isn't so sure about their chances, mostly because he thinks Russillo is fueled by a very specific kind of internal rage.

Void
Oct 22, 2021·Fyre Fest
#19987
Big CatBig Cat

Ryen Russillo would beat the Pardon My Take crew in a fight because he holds so much internal anger

I actually have a different take on it. I think Russillo holds so much anger in his shoulders and neck from various people online saying, oh, did you vote for Trump because of the taxes that he would probably kick all of our assets... he would cave my Skullet.

This is a hypothetical fight between podcasters.

However, if things got truly desperate, Big Cat has a secret weapon that he thinks would dismantle the entire Ringer squad through the power of pure, unadulterated niceness.

Void
Oct 22, 2021·Fyre Fest
#28680
Big CatBig Cat

Jake Marsh would beat Ryan Russillo, Nephew Kyle, and Sir Rudy in a fight by himself through pure sportsmanship

What if we... let's do the fight. We just sent Jake Marsh. Boom. He kick all their asses. One verse three. Fun with that. Come on. Sportsmanship to death.

This is a comedic hypothetical that can never be resolved.

Hopefully, the Broncos don't play as bad as the altitude makes them feel.

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More Takes

Loss
Oct 22, 2021
#19980
Big CatBig Cat

The Braves are going to kill the Dodgers tonight in Game 5 of the NLCS

And then we're taking me before the Braves Dodgers game. This will be all time Atlanta curse slash big cat mush. But I think the Braves are gonna kill the Dodgers tonight.

The Dodgers won Game 5 11-2, so the Braves did not 'kill' them; in fact, the opposite happened.
Win
Oct 22, 2021·Picks
#28679
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am going to keep betting on the Raiders as long as Rich Bisaccia is the head coach

I'm going to stay betting on the Raiders until proven otherwise. I loved what [Rich Bisaccia] showed me last week. The guys came out, they played hard. So yeah, I'm not going to jump off that yet.

The Raiders went 7-5 under Bisaccia and made the playoffs, proving PFT's confidence in the interim bounce correct.
Loss
Oct 22, 2021·Picks
#28675
Big CatBig Cat

Justin Fields will have a 'coming out party' against the Buccaneers because their secondary is bad

I have told myself the Bucs secondary sucks. This will be Justin Fields' coming out party. Now, can they stop the Bucs? I do not know, but the over 47... I'm going to stay with the Bears.

The Buccaneers blew out the Bears 38-3; Fields threw 3 interceptions and 0 touchdowns.
Void
Oct 22, 2021
#19984
Bill BurrBill Burr

John Gruden's $100 million contract was fair because his presence makes teams money

Overrated 10 million a year for John Gruden is a fair fucking price... when the Raiders, when he coaches the Raiders, the Raider fans show up, they make money and they become a competitive team. That's a hundred million dollar contract. You over 10 years. That's 10 million a year. That's chicken, shit money.

This is a subjective assessment of market value and coaching impact.
Loss
Oct 22, 2021
#28677
Tendai MtawariraTendai Mtawarira

The USA Rugby team will challenge New Zealand and the match will end in a draw

I think USA rugby is going to challenge, man. It's going to be a draw. They're going to rise up to the occasion.

The All Blacks won 104-14, one of the most lopsided scores in international rugby history.

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