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Hockey Guys Paul Bissonnette And Ryan Whitney

Wednesday, May 16, 201824 takes

Should Lebron just quit on the Cavs? The Celtics and Warrior flex their MANalytics and Cleveland and Houston are in big trouble ( - ). NBA Draft Lottery was weird and we're not worried about the Caps, repeat we're not worried about the Caps ( - ) . Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the legalization of gambling and Kyrie Irving ( - ). Former NHL Players Ryan Whitney and Paul Bissonnette join the show to talk about the NHL playoffs, their favorite stories from playing in the league, bashing basketball, and Biz tries to read an ad ( - ). Segments include PR 101 for Robinson Cano, Well that makes sense Qatar paid for the DC metro to stay open late, Embrace Debate Laurel/Yanny and Guys on Chicks.

Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney on NHL Playoffs and NBA Bashing

The NBA Playoffs are in full swing, but the real story isn't the box score; it's the Manalytics. Big Cat and PFT are fully leaning into the eye test, specifically how the Celtics are out-manning the Cavs at every turn. While the analytics might say one thing, the Manalytics tell us that Terry Rozier is a certified dog and the Cavs' supporting cast has a rating of zero.

Void
May 16, 2018
#8175
Big CatBig Cat

I am a full-blown Manalytics guy now

I have to say, boys, I hate to do it, but I'm going to give a little hat tip to Colin Cowherd. Because I am a full-blown Manalytics guy now. It's all Manalytics in the playoffs.

This is a subjective framing of how he views sports through the lens of 'manhood' and 'labor metrics'.

Even with the Celtics looking like the much better unit, there's the looming shadow of LeBron James. Big Cat compares him to Aaron Rodgers—no matter how dead the team looks, you expect a Hail Mary. However, after a Game 2 where LeBron looked legitimately dazed, PFT is convinced there's more to the story than just a bad loss.

Void
May 16, 2018
#8177
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James got a concussion in Game 2

I'm going to LeBron stand for real for a second because I think he did get a concussion. I think he did get knocked out. He got clipped on the jaw pretty good. He was definitely dinged up. He looked off when he first came back.

LeBron was never in the concussion protocol, though he looked dazed. It remains a fan theory.

Beyond the concussion theories, the guys are looking at the mental state of the King. Between J.R. Smith’s dirty plays and a roster that can't hit a barn door, LeBron might be looking for the nearest exit sign.

Loss
May 16, 2018
#8178
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James might just quit on the Cavs

LeBron definitely is not close, but he's definitely got in his mind, like, I might just quit on these bums. Like, these guys stink. And, like, what do you even tell LeBron when you go, J.R. Smith went 0 for 7.

LeBron did not quit in the literal sense; he dragged them to the Finals before leaving for the Lakers in the offseason.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

The legalization of gambling dominated the headlines, but Big Cat found a bittersweet angle to the news. While everyone is celebrating, he's mourning the eventual loss of the degenerate's most important relationship: the one with their bookie.

Open
Big CatBig Cat

Legalized gambling will eventually end the relationship with personal bookies

My first hot seat is your bookie... gambling is legal. I don't think anyone's going to lose their bookie overnight. I think it's going to be probably like a decade, but at some point the bookie relationship will be something of the past. And that's very sad.

This is currently trending as predicted; while some niche bookies exist, major apps have taken over the bulk of market share.

Meanwhile, PFT took Adam Silver to task. Despite Silver's reputation as the "cool" commissioner, his recent decision to involve the authorities over some mean emails has PFT questioning his street cred.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Adam Silver is a narc for reporting email threats to the police

Adam Silver, he turns out he's a narc... Everyone thought that Adam Silver was the cool commissioner. But if he's so cool, how come he called the police on the guy that threatened to murder him? And had him arrested.

Silver did report a man who sent threatening emails. The 'narc' label is humorous opinion.

In a lighter segment of Hot Seat, the state of Wisconsin officially cemented its legacy. According to recent data, the Dairy State is home to seven of the top ten drunkest cities in the country, a feat that earned them PFT’s highest honor.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Wisconsin cities are the Mount Rushmore of drunks

USA Today ranked the top 10 drunkest cities in America... seven [were from Wisconsin]. Green Bay is number one, Eau Claire, Appleton, Madison. They have all four of the top four. They are the Mount Rushmore of drunks.

The 2018 rankings by 24/7 Wall St (published in USA Today) did indeed show Wisconsin cities dominating the top 10.

Hockey Guys in Studio

Paul Bissonnette and Ryan Whitney from Spittin' Chicklets joined the show to provide some much-needed hockey expertise, though it mostly devolved into them bashing the NBA and sharing incredible locker room stories. Ryan Whitney didn't hold back on the modern NBA, calling out the theatrical nature of the league compared to the NHL.

Void
May 16, 2018
#26861
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The NBA is a show where players stay down after contact so people can take pictures of them

LeBron, he caught a pinky to the side of the head today. So he stayed down for 45 minutes, make sure everyone could take a picture of him. And then he went in the locker room five minutes later. It's a show. Probably liked a couple pictures on Instagram and then was like, all right, everyone knows I'm out.

A subjective and cynical interpretation of player behavior.

Biz Nasty brought some legendary "rumors" to the table, specifically regarding how high-end Russian players like Ovechkin and Malkin operate when they head back home. Apparently, the perks of being a Russian superstar involve more than just fame.

Void
May 16, 2018
#8189
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Vladimir Putin hands out unlimited credit cards to high-end Russian hockey players

I've just heard some rumblings, and it's been confirmed by a few guys that, like, Putin basically hands out credit cards to all these high-end Russian hockey players like Malkin and Ovechkin. Where basically they could just go, like if you say they want to pop bottles one night, they just go, they just put it on the Russian credit card.

While documented that Russian oligarchs heavily fund hockey, the specific 'unlimited credit card' for individuals is an unverified but widely discussed urban legend in hockey.

Despite the NHL's growth, Whitney admitted that the current success of the Vegas Golden Knights might be making some veteran GMs look incompetent. He pointed out that while it's great for the fans, it's a nightmare for front offices who have spent decades failing to build what Vegas did in a summer.

Void
May 16, 2018
#26859
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

An expansion team like the Golden Knights winning the Cup in their first year is a bad look for the NHL

The one thing you make sense is it's not a great look for the NHL in a sense that— Right... every GM around the league is like, all right, this team's lighting it up. Like, my owner's going to be like, why the fuck isn't your team good?

The Golden Knights reached the Finals but lost to the Capitals. The 'look' of the situation remains a matter of opinion.

Before the interview wrapped, Biz attempted the impossible: reading an actual ad without stumbling. It was a Herculean effort that involved Big Cat standing over his shoulder like a tutor, but Biz managed to navigate the "minimalism" of MVMT watches without a total breakdown.

PR 101 and Guys on Chicks

Robinson Cano's 80-game suspension for a "masking agent" led to a masterclass in PR spin. Big Cat noted the incredible timing of Cano's injury and his subsequent positive test, suggesting the hustle to the pharmacy was his most athletic move of the season.

Void
May 16, 2018·PR 101
#8190
Big CatBig Cat

Robinson Cano took steroids specifically to heal his broken wrist faster

He broke his wrist like a week ago, and now he has... That was pretty quick of him to do steroids for the recovery. Got to admire the hustle. That's Andy Pettitte-like hustle to the pharmacy.

Cano was suspended for Lasix, a masking agent, but the timing with his injury led many to conclude he was using substances for recovery.

To wrap things up, the guys helped a listener struggling with a boyfriend who hits the gym but keeps the weight on. Big Cat provided some veteran insight into the "workout reward" cycle that keeps many a man in "Thick Cat" territory.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Diet is more important than working out for weight loss

It's no secret when people say it's actually not about working out, it's about the diet, because what happens is... because I went to the gym, I was like, I can eat anything I want. And then I ate way worse than I normally would have.

Scientifically, weight loss is primarily driven by caloric deficit (diet) rather than exercise alone.

If you find yourself hearing Laurel instead of Yanni, just remember that the internet is a dark place designed to destroy your productivity.

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Push
May 16, 2018
#8176
Big CatBig Cat

The Celtics are just a better team than the Cavs

The Celtics are just a better team than the Cavs. I still think this is going to be a series because it's LeBron. LeBron has kind of got that Aaron Rodgers thing where when the Packers are eliminated from the playoffs, you're like, but he'll probably throw a Hail Mary and they'll end up in the playoffs.

The Celtics eventually lost this series in 7 games, but at the time, they were dominating the Cavs roster-wise.
Void
May 16, 2018
#26855
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ty Lue knows about as much about coaching basketball teams as I do

Lou knows about as much about coaching basketball teams as I do, I think. So he's just going to be like, NBA teams are going small. We're going to go small. But he doesn't have any small players, but he's just going to put his smallest players out there and be like, okay. We'll see if this works.

Subjective opinion on coaching quality, delivered with heavy sarcasm.
Loss
May 16, 2018
#8179
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Warriors will sweep the Rockets

I'm going to be an overreaction guy, and I'm going to say I think it's going to be a sweep. I think that that third quarter stomped them so hard, and their manalytics are so subpar.

The series went 7 games, with the Rockets leading 3-2 at one point. Definitely not a sweep.
Void
May 16, 2018
#8180
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden needs to get in shape

James Harden, he played his heart out in the first half... when is that guy going to get in shape? Because he was running – he was doing what I do... When I get really gassed and I just pass the ball and then stand as far away from the hoop as possible.

Harden's conditioning was a frequent topic of debate throughout his career, making this a subjective performance critique.
Void
May 16, 2018
#26856
Big CatBig Cat

Chris Paul is a sneaky, very dirty player

I think people forget often that Chris Paul is sneaky, very dirty. Like, they're like, oh, shit, Chris Paul, what are you doing there? Oh, no, that's actually... Chris Paul's like, yeah, he'll elbow you right in the butthole.

This is a widely held opinion in NBA circles but remains subjective.
Loss
May 16, 2018
#26857
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Warriors will sweep the Celtics in the NBA Finals

I think it's going to be a sweep out west, and I think it's going to go six, and I think the Celtics are going to play against the Warriors in the finals, and they're going to get swept.

Incorrect. The Celtics lost to the Cavs in the ECF. The Warriors swept the Cavs in the Finals.
Loss
May 16, 2018
#8181
HankHank

The Celtics will win the NBA Finals in 7 games

It's going to go six or seven in the finals. Celtics might win in seven. He's got to steal one. He's got to steal one at the Warriors.

The Celtics did not make the Finals; they lost in the ECF to the Cavs.
Loss
May 16, 2018
#8182
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell will eventually implement an NFL Draft Lottery

You know that Roger Goodell is sitting at home and he's trying to figure out a way to get a lottery involved in the NFL so that he can sell a two-night pay-per-view of the NFL draft lottery.

As of 2024, the NFL has not implemented a draft lottery, maintaining its record-based order.
Win
May 16, 2018
#8183
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am NOT worried about the Capitals

We're not worried about the Caps, repeat we're not worried about the Caps... I'm actually not worried. I'm not worried. Nope. We got another one at home. Marlon's Man's going to game four.

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The Capitals won the Stanley Cup in 2018. PFT was right (and eventually was vindicated after years of 'not worrying').
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You should only pay cash at Chili's to keep your meal untraceable

Chili's is a cash establishment. You don't bring plastic into this equation. Cold, hard cash is the name of the game. You want to have your meal at Chili's be untraceable. That's on you if you paid with a card.

A satirical lifestyle recommendation that cannot be factually proven.
Push
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving won't be happy that the Celtics are 'Brad Stevens' Team'

Kyrie's not going to be happy that this is Brad Stevens' team. Kyrie left Cleveland because it wasn't his team. And now he's gone somewhere else, still not his team. You think LeBron sends Kyrie a U-up text tonight?

Kyrie's tenure in Boston famously ended with chemistry issues and his departure, suggesting he wasn't satisfied as the 'system' guy.
Win
May 16, 2018
#8188
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Mark Scheifele is an NHL superstar now

I want to get respect out to Mark Scheifele. I don't if you've been watching the Western Conference. He's a, I'd say superstar now, Scheifele. He's incredible.

Scheifele had a massive 2018 playoff and established himself as a perennial All-Star and top center in the league.
Void
May 16, 2018
#26860
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Modern hockey is much better than the 'old school' era

No, because the game is so much better now. And when you say old and grumpy, there's a generation above us that the best players didn't make much money... But for me, like, I love seeing guys get paid... I love seeing guys get [money].

A subjective comparison of different sports eras.

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