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Horace Grant, Last Dance Episodes 5 & 6, Mt Flushmore + Billy's Deep Dive

Monday, May 4, 202016 takes

We review the Last Dance Episodes 5 and 6. MJ shitting on Isiah again, the Dream Team, Jordan's gambling problems and the Finals vs Charles Barkley. (-) Andy Dalton signs in Dallas and the Bears do not pick up Mitch Trubisky's 5th year option. (-) Who's back of the week. (-) 4X NBA Champion Horace Grant joins the show to talk about the Bulls first 3 peat, his relationship with Michael Jordan, being best friends with Scottie Pippen, playing with Shaq and Penny, and NBA What ifs. (-) Segments include stay woke on Kim Jong Un, (-) Mt Flushmore of sports, (-) and Billy's Deep Dive where he pitches us his new big idea. (-)

Horace Grant on Jordan, Magic What-Ifs, and Billy's Blood Cult

The Last Dance episodes 5 and 6 are officially in the books, and Big Cat has the motivation for this entire documentary figured out. Between shitting on Isiah Thomas and reminding everyone that he's the king, MJ is clearly using ten hours of television to settle some very old scores.

Win
May 4, 2020
#9376
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Jordan released 'The Last Dance' 50% to bash Isiah Thomas and 50% to prove he is better than LeBron James

If you had to break it down Michael Jordan doing this documentary [is] 50% to remind everyone in the world that Michael Jordan's the goat and like he's still better than LeBron and 50% just to shit down Isiah Thomas' throat.

The documentary significantly boosted MJ's standing in the GOAT debate and spent considerable time on the Isiah Thomas feud, supporting the take.

The guys break down the Dream Team era, specifically the Monte Carlo practice that effectively saw Michael snatch the torch from Magic Johnson. PFT and Big Cat also debate the gambling controversy, with Big Cat relating a little too much to MJ’s insistence that he can stop whenever he wants. In the NFL world, Andy Dalton is heading to Dallas to back up Dak Prescott, which PFT views as a low-key power move by Jerry Jones.

Win
May 4, 2020
#26308
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Andy Dalton is one of the best backup quarterbacks in the NFL

I think [Andy Dalton] is probably one of the best backups in the league right now. You have a hard time convincing me [otherwise].

Dalton proved to be a capable backup, starting nine games for the Cowboys in 2020 after Dak Prescott's injury and keeping them in playoff contention.

Speaking of backup quarterbacks, PFT has a theory on why our good friend Blake Bortles is still looking for a home. It has nothing to do with completion percentage and everything to do with the car he drives and a league-wide conspiracy involving big oil.

Loss
May 4, 2020
#9377
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Blake Bortles is being blackballed by the NFL because he drives a Tesla

I think that Blake Bortles is being blackballed by the NFL because he drives a Tesla and because the league sponsors are motor oil companies [like] Castrol, Havoline, other competing rivals against Elon Musk and Tesla.

Bortles' lack of a roster spot was due to performance, not his choice of electric vehicle or oil company conspiracies.

Who’s Back featured the triumphant return of the NFL schedule release and a massive deadlift record from The Mountain. Big Cat is feeling optimistic about the fall, citing reports that the league is full steam ahead on playing with fans in the seats.

Win
May 4, 2020·Who's Back
#26309
Big CatBig Cat

There is almost a zero percent chance that the NFL season does not happen this fall

Florio did have a report where [he's] talking to the right people that it's basically a zero percent chance—not a zero percent chance, but like almost a zero percent chance that there's no football this fall.

The 2020 NFL season successfully took place, starting on schedule in September.

However, the positivity ended when the conversation turned to the "Murder Hornets." Big Cat is officially out on the hype, declaring that the media is simply addicted to fear and that a bug that can be defeated by a rolled-up Sunday edition of the Chicago Tribune shouldn't be a national emergency.

Win
May 4, 2020·Who's Back
#9380
Big CatBig Cat

Murder Hornets are not a real threat because anything you can kill with a newspaper is not a problem

I'm officially done with being swayed by the Murder Hornet... fuck the Murder Hornet. If I can kill something with a newspaper, it's not a problem. It's not a problem. I'd rather be Mike Tyson's trainer or stuck in a room with one single Murder Hornet, I'd drive the Murder Hornet, I'd fuck the Murder Hornet up.

While Murder Hornets (Asian Giant Hornets) are dangerous to bee colonies and can be fatal to humans in rare cases, they did not become a widespread threat to the average American as feared.
Void
May 4, 2020·Who's Back
#26310
Big CatBig Cat

Fear porn has become the number one industry in America

I'm sick of letting everyone—fear porn has become the number one industry in America right now. I'm done letting fear take over my life. I'm done with being scared about random things that get posted in a New York Times article just so that everyone can send it around to each other.

The prevalence of 'fear porn' in media is a subjective sociological observation.

Horace Grant joined the show to give a first-hand account of the Bulls' first three-peat. He didn't hold back on MJ’s claim that he was the primary source for Sam Smith’s infamous book, The Jordan Rules. According to Horace, Michael is flat-out lying to protect his own image in the documentary.

Void
May 4, 2020
#9382
Horace GrantHorace Grant

Michael Jordan's claim that I was the source for 'The Jordan Rules' is a lie

For MJ to say I [was] the source of this book, that's a lie. That's a downright lie and he knows that... Sam Smith spent more time with Bill Cartwright, John Paxson, Tex Winter, Johnny Bach.

While Sam Smith has never officially revealed his sources, Horace Grant's denial is consistent and supported by other journalists' observations of the team dynamic.

Horace also went through a series of "what-ifs" from his time in Orlando and LA. He truly believes that if Shaq and Penny had just stayed together with the Magic, they would have a handful of rings. The most devastating revelation, though, was that Shaq actually called Horace several times before signing with the Lakers in 1996, and Horace simply missed the calls.

Void
May 4, 2020
#26311
Horace GrantHorace Grant

If I had picked up the phone when Shaquille O'Neal called me during 1996 free agency, I could have convinced him to stay with the Magic

[Shaquille O'Neal] called me I think two or three times. If I just had to pick up the phone, maybe things would have been different and I did not pick up the phone. When I heard that he signed with the Lakers, I drove from Florida to my mother's house in Georgia and I stayed there for about two weeks just depressed as shit.

A hypothetical scenario involving Shaq's decision-making process.

When asked how his Bulls would stack up against modern dynasties, Horace was confident. Despite the shooting of the KD-era Warriors, he doesn't think the modern guys could handle the physicality of the 90s, especially with the refs from that era calling the game.

Void
May 4, 2020
#9384
Horace GrantHorace Grant

The 1990s Bulls would have beaten the KD-era Warriors in six games

I would say the Bulls in six. Being with the Bulls, we don't believe in seven games in the finals... when you got a Michael Jordan and a Scottie Pippen in their prime and Horace Grant here, I mean, victory.

This is a purely subjective debate that can never be resolved.

Mount Flushmore focused on the sporting activities you'd least like to try. Hank led things off with water polo, which is essentially just a legal way to try and drown your peers while treading water for an hour.

Void
HankHank

Water polo is the worst sport to participate in because you spend the whole time trying to drown each other

Water polo... why let's play keep away while we try to drown each other? No thanks. Treading water the whole time, you gotta be dealing with the worst cramps in the world. I can't imagine just having people just grab you try to hold you under water.

The enjoyability or safety of a sport is a matter of personal opinion.

Big Cat rounded out the list by attacking cycling, mostly because it involves wearing tight spandex and being a nuisance on public roads for a result that isn't particularly thrilling to watch.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Cycling is just a more boring version of NASCAR

I'd watch basically anything except for cycling. Cycling is it's a more boring version of NASCAR.

Entertainment value of a sport is entirely subjective.

To wrap up the show, Billy Football entered the Shark Tank to pitch his new supplement line, the Berserker Blood Cult. He’s looking for a modest thirty thousand dollars to fund "Crisis Fuel," a 2,000-calorie-per-serving powder designed to help you maintain mass during a pandemic or a wildfire.

Loss
Billy FootballBilly Football

My 'Crisis Fuel' supplement will provide enough energy and mass to survive 40 days in a wildfire or pandemic

I developed a proprietary blend... it's like 2,000 calories a punch. It's protein, carbs, good additive, cornstarch to it... if there's a wildfire approaching your house, screw the food, grab your 10-gallon bucket of Crisis Fuel which is all powder and a bunch of water, throwing your car, you have enough meals for 40 days.

PredictionLifeScorchingSarcastic
The product never launched, and surviving 40 days on a cornstarch-based powder and water is nutritionally questionable and medically dangerous.

If you're not ready to commit to the Blood Cult, at least you can sleep well knowing Kim Jong Un might be back, even if Big Cat thinks it’s a body double. Keep your eyes on the trainers and catchers, the true simps of the sports world.

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More Takes

Void
May 4, 2020
#9386
Horace GrantHorace Grant

Shaquille O'Neal and Penny Hardaway would have won at least two or three championships if they stayed together in Orlando

I would say at least two or three championships. People have forgotten about Penny Hardaway—6'7, 6'8 like a Magic Johnson who can shoot the ball, very athletic. His IQ was off the chart when it came to basketball.

Penny Hardaway's career was derailed by injuries shortly after Shaq left, making it questionable if they could have won multiple titles even if Shaq stayed.
Void
May 4, 2020·Stay Woke
#26313
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kim Jong Un has at least a half-dozen clones of himself being kept on a farm in case he dies

I would imagine that he probably has at least a half-dozen clones of his, like actual clones that have been kept in like some weird farm just in case that he does die.

The existence of clones is an unverified and likely satirical conspiracy theory.
Loss
May 4, 2020·Stay Woke
#26312
Big CatBig Cat

I am firmly on the side that Kim Jong Un is dead

I'm firmly on the side of he's dead. I don't buy that it's him [in the new photos]. I think it's just—he looks kind of chunkier too, so it's just a fake Kim Jong Un.

Kim Jong Un subsequently made numerous public appearances, confirming he was alive.
Void
May 4, 2020·Mt. Rushmore
#9390
HankHank

Soccer is boring because you cannot use your hands

Soccer... simple, just because any sport that you can't use your hands, that's like 50% of your body and the stuff that are much more important and you can't even use it. You're just running around, at most you're scoring one goal. It's boring as fuck.

This is a matter of personal taste and opinion.

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