Jim Sorgi and Vince Wilfork on Peyton Manning, Backup Life, and the U
NFL Week 5 was a weird one, and Big Cat and PFT Commenter wasted no time jumping into the strangest story of the weekend: the Miami Dolphins offensive line coach allegedly caught on video doing lines of white powder before a meeting. While the rest of the media was clutching pearls, the guys were looking at the silver lining of high-energy coaching.
Offensive line coaches should be recreational cocaine users to stay amped for the job
I don't have a problem with an offensive line coach just doing a little recreational blow as long as it's on the job. If you use it just to get amped up before a meeting, what's the difference between that and just banging a monster?
Big Cat was even more emphatic about the benefits of a coach who is constantly amped up, suggesting it shouldn't just be limited to the guys coaching the big fellas upfront.
I want all offensive line coaches to be slightly high on cocaine at all times
I want my offensive line coaches to be slightly high on cocaine at all times. Them and my strength and conditioning guys, they should just have a room. That's just like the coke room.
On the field, the Giants fell to 0-5, and PFT declared a definitive winner in the most famous trade in Giants history. Between the losing record and Odell Beckham Jr. suffering a season-ending injury, the vibes in New York are officially at rock bottom.
The Chargers won the Eli Manning trade once and for all because the Giants are 0-5
Odell Beckham, more like 0-5, Odell Beckham. The Giants remain winless, and the Chargers win the Eli Manning-Philip Rivers trade once and for all.
Speaking of season-ending injuries, J.J. Watt’s tibial plateau fracture had the guys playing amateur doctor. PFT’s Google research led to some grim conclusions about the future of the Texans' star, noting that this might be the end of the road for the high-motor legend.
JJ Watt might legitimately be forced into retirement by this injury
It's a tibial plateau fracture and as somebody with Google I can now report with confidence that he's fucked... This might be like legit retirement for J.J. Watt. Not Players' Tribune fakery.
Jim Sorgi on the Sheriff and the Backup Mentality
Former Colts and Wisconsin quarterback Jim Sorgi joined the show to discuss Peyton Manning’s number retirement and what it’s actually like to spend years in the shadow of the Sheriff. Sorgi detailed his game-day duties, which mostly consisted of being a "yes man" to Peyton and reaffirming things the future Hall of Famer already knew. Big Cat made sure to give Sorgi his flowers as a Badger legend, even if he had to get creative with the rankings.
Jim Sorgi is the greatest Wisconsin quarterback of all time
You are probably the best Wisconsin quarterback of all time, and I'm just going to do—I'm going to say Russ [Wilson] is NC State for this debate.
Sorgi was humble about his place in Wisconsin history, acknowledging that the ceiling for Badgers quarterbacks changed the moment Russell Wilson stepped onto campus in Madison.
Wisconsin will never have another quarterback reach the level of Russell Wilson
Ever since Russell Wilson came and spent that one year there and everything he's done, you're never going to have a quarterback again that's going to kind of get to that level I don't think.
One of the most revealing moments of the interview came when Sorgi discussed the culinary habits of Colts quarterbacks at St. Elmo’s Steakhouse. While Peyton was a man of culture, his successor apparently missed the memo on how to behave at a world-class steakhouse.
Andrew Luck is not a Super Bowl winning quarterback because he orders chicken at steakhouses
I asked what Andrew Luck's order was [at St. Elmo's], and they said he usually gets chicken. So that's been my big red flag. My one red flag is he orders chicken at a steakhouse. That's not a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.
Big Vince is Back
Recurring guest and future Hall of Famer Vince Wilfork stopped by for a quick ten minutes to talk retirement and his love for the Miami Hurricanes. Despite the Patriots' defensive struggles, Wilfork made it clear that no amount of money could get him back into a pair of cleats.
I will never come out of retirement, no matter the offer
No amount of money will make me move from retirement... Physically nothing is wrong with me. I've been playing football for 20 years. I think it was time for me to give it a break and give it a rest.
Wilfork did confirm one of the greatest football hypotheticals of all time, agreeing that the early 2000s Hurricanes teams were essentially an NFL roster playing against college kids.
The early 2000s Miami Hurricanes defense could have beaten NFL teams
I agree. I mean, it was some, we could have beat some NFL teams, absolutely. [Could you have taken the Browns?] Absolutely.
Before letting him go, the guys had to check in on the most important athletic metric in New England: the foot race between Wilfork and Tom Brady. Despite being away from the game for a few months, Big Vince isn't conceding an inch to TB12.
I am still faster than Tom Brady in a foot race
[You once said that you were faster than Tom Brady. Is that still true?] Oh, yeah, of course. [Foot race, no question?] Yes, no question. [Is he that slow, or are you that fast?] No, I'm that fast.
To wrap up the show, the guys looked at the disaster in East Rutherford. Ben McAdoo has officially reached the "taking away the music" stage of a failing coaching tenure. Big Cat noted that once the fun is gone, the pink slip usually follows shortly after.
Ben McAdoo is about to be fired after taking away the team's practice music
That is the last thing you do before you get fired. Take away the team's music. No more fun on this team. The ping-pong table, they take that out of the player's room, and they're like, it's over.
If the Giants need any inspiration, they should look at LSU, where Big Cat remains the only person on earth who thinks Ed Orgeron is doing a perfect job.
Coach Ed Orgeron was never on the hot seat at LSU
I'm staying resolute in my support of Coach O. I don't think he was ever on the hot seat. Don't think he's ever going to be on the hot seat.
Good luck to the Szechuan sauce nerds waiting in line at McDonald's, we hope your nuggets were worth the fifteen-hour wait.

