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Landon Donovan 08/10/16

Wednesday, August 10, 201613 takes

The guys are in the Olympic spirit after Michael Phelps dominating night. USA wins in Rio and why Chad Le Clos is an all time loser. Mt Rushmore of good smells and guys you don't want at your party. Landon Donovan joins the show to talk soccer, Olympics, and joining in a Swansea ownership alliance with Big Cat. Segments include "Tebow Watch", "Sabermetics", "Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules", "Spinzone" for David Ortiz's racist bobbleheads and a Lebron James update

Landon Donovan on US Soccer, the Olympics, and Tim Tebow Watch

America officially decided to let the rest of the world know that daddy’s home this week in Rio. Big Cat and PFT are riding the Olympic high after Michael Phelps and Katie Ledecky spent the night collecting gold like they were hoarding supplies for the apocalypse. Between Phelps breaking the souls of guys like Chad Le Clos and the US women's gymnastics team being so good they could have Dougie’d their way to gold, it was a banner night for the Red, White, and Blue.

Win
Aug 10, 2016
#5441
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Phelps is the greatest Olympian of all time

Michael Phelps, the greatest Olympian of all time.

Phelps holds the record for most Olympic gold medals and total medals by a wide margin.

PFT was particularly moved by the sight of American athletes weeping on the podium, though he has some very specific criteria for when it is socially acceptable for a grown man to let the waterworks flow.

Void
Aug 10, 2016
#5442
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A man should only cry after losing his virginity or winning an Olympic medal

I always love it when our Olympians have a good cry... I would say that and maybe after you lose your virginity is the only acceptable time where a man can cry.

This is a subjective humorous rule for life.

The conversation naturally drifted toward the creepiness factor of women's gymnastics, specifically the "enthusiasts" in the front row. Big Cat pointed out that if you are a grown man with no kids and no connection to the sport, but you're sitting front row in a tucked-in T-shirt with a BlackBerry holster, you’re basically a walking red flag.

Void
Aug 10, 2016
#27783
Big CatBig Cat

Any adult male with no wife or kids who is a 'gymnastics enthusiast' is a 'pre-crime' suspect

I feel like there's just always like a few creepy dudes hanging around the gymnast. If you're a gymnastics enthusiast and that's where the line stops, like you have no personal connection to the sport, you just really like it. Maybe just watch on TV. No wife, no kids. But you do love your women's gymnastics. That's what we call a little pre-crime.

This is a hyperbolic value judgment and a comedic label, making it entirely subjective.

Landon Donovan Joins the Program

US soccer legend Landon Donovan stopped by to talk about the state of the beautiful game and his new campaign with Captain Morgan to lower the presidential age limit. While the US Men’s team didn't make it to Rio, Landon remains remarkably optimistic about the future of the program and the job security of Jurgen Klinsmann.

Open
Aug 10, 2016
#5444
Landon DonovanLandon Donovan

The U.S. will win a World Cup in the next 10 years

First question for you, Landon, will the U.S. win a World Cup in the next 10 years? [Landon]: Yes.

The USMNT failed to qualify for the 2018 World Cup and reached the Round of 16 in 2022. They have not won a World Cup within the window, though 2026 remains.

Big Cat, ever the businessman, revealed that he and Landon are now technically colleagues in the world of European football ownership. After confirming they both own stakes in Swansea City, they formed an official alliance to potentially sign "the fat guy from English Division 4" because it would move the needle on ticket sales. Landon also cleared up the 2004 "pissing on the field" incident in Mexico, noting that it was less of a middle-of-the-pitch statement and more of a desperate "the stadium bathrooms were locked" situation.

Void
Aug 10, 2016
#27785
Landon DonovanLandon Donovan

If I were offered $15 million to play next year, I would come out of retirement

If someone were to offer you $15 million to play next year, would you play? [Landon]: Yes.

While the $15m offer never specifically happened, Donovan did return to professional soccer shortly after this interview.

Of course, no soccer interview is complete without the ultimate hypothetical: How would the King fare on the pitch? Landon has a more grounded view than the hosts, suggesting LeBron’s height might actually be a liability everywhere except between the pipes.

Void
Aug 10, 2016
#5446
Landon DonovanLandon Donovan

LeBron James would be the best soccer goalie of all time, but he is too tall to be an elite field player

If LeBron James decided to play soccer instead of basketball, would he be the best soccer player of all time? [Landon]: I mean, he's still a little tall to be able to move the way – he'd probably be the best goalie of all time.

This is a hypothetical evaluation of a player's potential in a different sport by a professional in that sport.

Tebow Watch and Sabermetrics

Just when you thought the summer was getting quiet, Tim Tebow decided he’s a professional baseball player now. PFT is fully on board with the career pivot, arguing that Tebow’s entire life is basically just a six-year-old’s dream list come to life.

Void
Aug 10, 2016·Tebow Watch
#5447
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tim Tebow is like a six-year-old because he hasn't sucked enough at any job to rule it out as a possibility

[Tebow] is basically like a six-year-old. He's just like, I want to be a professional football player... I want to be a baseball player. And he's going to get the chance to do that. So it's like when you're six years old... you can say like an astronaut because you haven't proved that you're incompetent at anything. The best thing that you can say about Tim Tebow is that he doesn't suck enough at anything where any job is really out of the remote possibility for him.

This is a metaphorical characterization of Tebow's public perception and career path.

They even dug into the advanced stats to prove that Tebow might actually be more clutch than some of the most respected names in the NFL. When you look at the postseason numbers, the resume speaks for itself.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tim Tebow has a better playoff record than many 'great' NFL quarterbacks

People forget Tim Tebow is 1-1 in the playoffs. .500. That's a better record than a lot of great quarterbacks out there... That is the same amount of playoff wins as Tony Romo.

Tebow was 1-1 in the playoffs. At that time, Tony Romo was 1-3. It is a factual claim that was correct in 2016.

To wrap things up, Big Cat shared a mind-blowing "People Forget That" regarding Prince Fielder’s sudden retirement. In a glitch in the simulation, Prince is walking away from the game with 319 career home runs—the exact same number his father, Cecil Fielder, finished with. It’s either a beautiful coincidence or Cecil had something to do with the injury to ensure his son never passed him on the all-time list.

USA is back, soccer is almost the national sport, and Tim Tebow is probably an astronaut by next Tuesday.

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More Takes

Void
Aug 10, 2016
#5443
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James would be the best of all time in any Olympic sport he chose

Could LeBron James dominate this sport? And the answer is always yes. If LeBron decided not to play basketball and instead was a swimmer or a high diver or a handball player or a soccer player, he'd probably be the best of all time.

While LeBron is a generational athlete, claiming he would be the GOAT in vastly different disciplines like swimming or soccer is speculative and likely physically impossible given his size.
Loss
Aug 10, 2016
#5445
Landon DonovanLandon Donovan

Jurgen Klinsmann will still be the U.S. coach in 2018

I do believe [Jurgen Klinsmann] will be the coach in 2018. I think there's been a lot of ups and downs during his tenure, but I think recently the team has looked better.

Klinsmann was fired in November 2016, just months after this interview, following poor results in World Cup qualifying.
Void
Aug 10, 2016
#27784
Landon DonovanLandon Donovan

College is still a great option for many aspiring professional soccer players in the U.S.

Not only staying in Major League Soccer, but for a lot of people, college is still a great option to play college soccer and get a scholarship. I mean, very few people, as you know, go from a high school star to being a professional player. It's a very small percentage.

The effectiveness of the college path versus professional academies is a matter of ongoing debate in the soccer community.
Loss
Aug 10, 2016·Tebow Watch
#27786
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tim Tebow could land any airplane in America

Tim Tebow, are you kidding me? Tim Tebow could land any plane in America. He's got a lot of practice with a joystick, too.

Hot TakeLifeScorchingSarcastic
Tim Tebow is not a licensed pilot and there is no evidence he can land a commercial or private aircraft.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Prince Fielder will finish his career with the exact same number of home runs as his father

If Prince Fielder never plays another Major League Baseball game, he will end his career with 319 home runs. Same amount of home runs as Cecil Fielder.

Both Prince and Cecil Fielder finished their MLB careers with exactly 319 home runs. Prince never played another game after this announcement.

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