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Mike Florio and Stingray Steve 09/09/16

Friday, September 9, 201624 takes

NFL Season is finally back and the guys recap the Broncos Thursday night opening win( - ). Week 1 Las Vegas Super Contest picks for PFT, Big Cat, Hank, and Larry the Goldfish are revealed ( - ). Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk joins the show to preview the NFL season and his dark horse team of the year. Stingray Steve's Friday spot debuts with a preview of CFB Week 2 and his call of his favorite play from CFB week 1 ( - ). Segments include "Protect The Shield", "Respect The Biz", the debut of "Hot Seat, Cold Throne", "Spoilers", and weekly "Jimbos"

Mike Florio and Stingray Steve on NFL Week 1 and the Return of the Ravens

Football is officially back, and the energy is high despite the tragic, untimely passing of Larry the Goldfish. Larry 1.0 might be swimming in the big porcelain bowl in the sky, but he went out a winner after the Broncos took down the Panthers on Thursday night. Big Cat and PFT are already at each other's throats regarding the goldfish's maintenance, but there's no time to mourn when there are Super Contest picks to be made.

Before getting into the gambling, the guys broke down the Thursday night opener. PFT noticed a recurring theme with the league's musical choices for the kickoff festivities.

Void
Sep 9, 2016
#6711
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL books terrible pregame bands like OneRepublic on purpose to show power over the audience

I think the NFL does that on purpose. They always have the world's shittiest band opening up for the season... They do it on purpose just to say, like, fuck you, you're going to watch. We could wheel out Ozzy Osbourne while he's in a coma, and you would still tune in and watch.

This is a subjective observation about NFL branding and fan behavior.

On the field, the story was Cam Newton getting his head hunted and some questionable decision-making from the Carolina sidelines.

Void
Sep 9, 2016
#6712
Big CatBig Cat

Cam Newton and Ron Rivera had the worst clock management of the 2016 season so far

Cam Newton and analytical Ron, probably the worst clock management that we've seen in the 2016 NFL season so far. They burned every single timeout within the first five minutes of the first half.

Subjective performance review, though many analysts agreed the clock management was poor in that specific game.

While Cam was struggling to keep his clock straight, Trevor Siemian was busy being the most mediocre winner in NFL history. Big Cat, a Northwestern guy himself, recognized the brand of football immediately.

Void
Sep 9, 2016
#6713
Big CatBig Cat

Trevor Siemian is the perfect Northwestern quarterback because he is bad but okay

Trevor Siemian, not that bad, but also not that good. Kind of like perfect Northwestern quarterback. He reminded you that he's Trevor Siemian, but then he made a couple of throws that were okay... He was bad, but he was also good.

Subjective player evaluation.

The Quest for a Million Dollars

With the NFL season starting, the quest for the Las Vegas Super Contest began. Big Cat, PFT, Hank, and the ghost of Larry the Goldfish are all in, thanks to OddsShark. The stakes are high, and Big Cat is already planning his retirement if he hits the jackpot.

Win
Sep 9, 2016·Picks
#28522
Big CatBig Cat

I will keep doing the show even if I win a million dollars in the Super Contest

If I win a million dollars, I absolutely am going to keep doing the show. But I'm going to build a studio in my house and make you guys come over and film the show from my studio so I never have to leave.

The show is still running years later, and while they haven't won a million dollars in the contest, the show has reached that level of success.

For the Week 1 picks, there was a shocking amount of consensus on a certain Florida team that likes to disappoint. PFT is leading the charge on the Jags train.

Win
Sep 9, 2016·Picks
#6714
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

My Week 1 NFL Lock is the Jaguars +5.5 at home against the Packers

This is my stone cold lock of the week. I've got the Jaguars at home, jagging off big time, plus five and a half against the Packers.

The Packers won 27-23, meaning the Jaguars covered the +5.5 spread. The take was correct.

Big Cat, ever the optimist for his hometown squad, is calling for a big upset in Houston.

Loss
Sep 9, 2016·Picks
#6715
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears will win outright against the Texans in Week 1

Bears are going to win outright. Just a heads up, everyone.

The Texans beat the Bears 23-14.

Mike Florio and the Return of the Ravens

Mike Florio joined the show from Denver to preview the season. Florio, a noted Vikings fan, weighed in on the Sam Bradford trade and whether he can actually replace the injured Teddy Bridgewater.

Win
Sep 9, 2016
#6717
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Sam Bradford better simulates what Teddy Bridgewater would have done for the Vikings than Shaun Hill

Sam Bradford, the thinking is, I believe better simulates what Teddy would have done if he would have been able to play. I don't know that Bradford can get there... it's going to be an uphill climb, but when things settle down, they're going to be better off with Bradford than they would be with Hill.

Bradford had a statistically strong year in 2016, setting a then-NFL record for completion percentage, though the Vikings missed the playoffs.

Florio also isn't buying the hype on the top of the draft class. He pointed out the absurdity of the Rams' situation with their first overall pick being buried on the bench behind Case Keenum.

Push
Sep 9, 2016
#28523
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Rams being number three on the depth chart with the first overall pick Jared Goff is a bad sign for everyone

Number three on the depth chart is the first overall pick. That's not good for anybody. And I would say jokingly, back when the Rams picked [Jared] Goff, remember, these are the same people who thought Nick Foles was the answer a year ago. And what was once a joke, I think, is gradually becoming dead serious that maybe they've gotten it wrong two years in a row.

While Goff struggled initially and was eventually replaced by Stafford to win a Super Bowl, he did have several very good years with the Rams, making 'gotten it wrong' only partially accurate.

As for the Super Bowl, Florio went off the board with an AFC pick that would make PFT's year in terms of content potential.

Loss
Sep 9, 2016
#6718
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Packers will beat the Ravens in the 2016 Super Bowl

I got Packers over Panthers in the NFC... Ravens over Patriots in AFC. It is the return of the Ravens in 2016. I got Ravens Packers in the Super Bowl with the Packers winning.

The Super Bowl was Patriots vs. Falcons. The Ravens didn't make the playoffs.
Loss
Sep 9, 2016
#20158
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco is going to get himself back into the elite conversation by making it to the Super Bowl

Joe Flacco is going to get himself back into the elite conversation by making it to the Super Bowl. But when he doesn't win, that would actually — I would demand a raise here at Barstool if Joe Flacco made it. That would give me so much content.

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The Ravens went 8-8 in 2016 and missed the playoffs entirely, let alone the Super Bowl.

Stingray Steve and the SEC's Funeral

Stingray Steve made his Friday debut to preview college football. He's still recovering from Mississippi State's brutal loss to South Alabama, but he’s already moving on to Cincinnati (or South Carolina, close enough). Steve isn't high on the rest of his conference right now, declaring it a one-team race.

Win
Sep 9, 2016
#6722
Stingray SteveStingray Steve

The SEC is dead in 2016 except for Alabama

Do you think the stories about the SEC being dead are correct? I do, except for Alabama. because Alabama looked good last weekend against USC.

Subjective, but Alabama was the only SEC team to make the Playoff that year.

To wrap up the segment, we had Stingray recreate the legendary Swoopes touchdown call from the Texas win over Notre Dame. It was pure electricity.

Loss
Sep 9, 2016
#6720
Stingray SteveStingray Steve

Texas is back after upsetting Notre Dame

Swoops for the win. Texas is back, folks. They upset Number 10 Notre Dame. And what an amazing win for the Texas Longhorns.

Texas finished the 2016 season 5-7. They were, in fact, not back.

Hot Seat, Cool Throne and Jimbos

The show debuted a new staple: Hot Seat, Cool Throne (or the Ice Throne). While some coaches are looking over their shoulders, others have built-in excuses that will keep them employed until the heat death of the universe.

Push
Big CatBig Cat

Chuck Pagano and Sean Payton are on the hot seat to start the 2016 season

I got Chuck Pagano... both the Saints and the Colts, they're in win-now mode. And not only that, but Chuck Pagano, he's been healthy for a while. I think you can fire him now, and it's not like, ooh, we just fired the guy who had cancer.

Both stayed through 2016, though Pagano was eventually fired in 2017.
Push
Big CatBig Cat

Marvin Lewis and Jason Garrett are on the 'Ice Throne' and will never be fired

Number one, he's actually – we have to come up with a term. Is it just the cold seat? ... The king of the ice throne, Marvin Lewis. He will never be fired. Here's another one, though. Jason Garrett is so lucky to have Tony Romo because every single year he's like, 'could have been good, Tony got hurt. Dang.'

Both coaches lasted significantly longer than their results suggested they should, eventually being fired in 2018 and 2019 respectively.

To close it out, the guys hit some weekly Jimbos. PFT has a theory that Tim Tebow’s career path is less about divine inspiration and more about a decade-long pharmaceutical bender.

Loss
Sep 9, 2016·Jimbos
#28527
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tim Tebow has been on a fatal dose of Adderall for the last 10 years

I think Tim Tebow has just been on almost a fatal dose of Adderall for the last 10 years. He is so obsessed with these really strange goals that he has and keeps changing jobs and doing weird stuff. This is the action of a man that is just tweaking out of his mind nonstop. 'You know what? I'm going to be a baseball player.'

This is a satirical character assassination bit, not a literal medical claim.

Big Cat also had to defend himself against the spoiler police regarding the death of a certain Colombian drug lord, reminding everyone that you can’t spoil something that happened in 1993.

Void
Sep 9, 2016·Spoilers
#6727
Big CatBig Cat

Mentioning that Pablo Escobar dies in Narcos is not a spoiler because it is history

Pablo Escobar dies. And people are mad at me about it... Can you spoil history? ... I say that, yes, you can spoil history if it's a part of history that not enough people know. ... No one forgets that Pablo Escobar got shot and killed.

Subjective debate on spoiler etiquette.

Don't forget to stay away from the cloud, because it's only a matter of time before it ruins your life.

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More Takes

Loss
Sep 9, 2016·Picks
#6716
Big CatBig Cat

The next Larry the Goldfish will survive for at least two or three days

I think this next Larry is going to survive for a while... I think there's a lot of things we can do differently with this Larry that will make him live for at least two or three days.

The show famously went through dozens of goldfish during the 'Larry's Picks' era, often dying within days or a week.
Win
Sep 9, 2016
#28524
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Rams and 49ers fan bases will have the most fights per game now that the Rams are in LA

I think anybody who plays at the Coliseum, that's where the fights are going to be. And so that's one fan base right there... The more people you have, the greater the chance you're going to have a bunch of fights. And I don't know what it is about 49ers fans. They like to scrap. It's going to get ugly when they play in LA.

The Rams-49ers rivalry did indeed see numerous high-profile stadium altercations and 'takeovers' by Niners fans in subsequent years.
Loss
Sep 9, 2016
#6719
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Saints are my 2016 dark horse team because their defense can't get any worse

How about the Saints? ... Their defense can't be any worse than it's been. And, you know, Dennis Allen is now in charge of it. They got rid of Rob Ryan... I think the Saints would be a team that could surprise some people this year.

The Saints went 7-9 in 2016, missing the playoffs.
Win
Sep 9, 2016
#28525
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Bears will struggle in 2016 without Adam Gase to manage Jay Cutler

I worry about how the offense is going to be without Adam Gase there to keep Jay Cutler from being Jay Cutler. And Matt Forte's gone. I think they're going to have a hard time.

The 2016 Bears were a disaster, finishing 3-13. Florio was spot on.
Loss
Sep 9, 2016
#6721
Stingray SteveStingray Steve

Virginia Tech will upset Tennessee at Bristol Motor Speedway

I got Virginia Tech because Appalachian State pushed Tennessee to the brink... Appalachian State should not even be on the same playing level as Tennessee. I got Virginia Tech in the upset.

Tennessee won the Battle at Bristol 45-24.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell should suspend himself for two games following the Mike Pereira door-pushing revelation

Roger Goodell was protecting the shield before protecting the shield was cool. Here's what Roger Goodell should do. So it doesn't look good, right? ... Roger Goodell should suspend himself... for two games... And then he'll hear the appeal... reduce it to one game and boom, I think the problem solved.

This was a satirical suggestion; Goodell did not suspend himself.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chip Kelly is on the Ice Throne because he intentionally stocks his roster with bad players to buy more time

I think Chip Kelly's on the ice throne, too... Because he's got blame gap. One thing that Chip Kelly is really great at is stockpiling his rosters with the shittiest quarterbacks... He's stocking his roster up with bad, bad players. And then he can be like, well, I didn't have the personnel this year. I'm still implementing my system.

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Chip Kelly was fired after just one season (2-14) with the 49ers, so the Ice Throne did not protect him.
Void
Sep 9, 2016·Jimbos
#28526
Big CatBig Cat

The cloud can do nothing but bad things for you; it is your enemy

Just stay away from the cloud. The cloud can do nothing but bad things for you, okay? The cloud is not your friend. The cloud is your enemy. Repeat that over and over, and you should be okay in your life.

Subjective life advice, though many would agree with the privacy concerns.

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