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Wednesday, August 15, 201823 takes

We're live from our minivan in California and Big Ben's walking boot is back ( - ). Recapping Rams and Niners Camp and our fight with LA traffic ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Mt Rushmore of fast food items ( - ). Rams D-Lineman Ndamukong Suh joins the show to talk about his career in the NFL, why he chose the Rams, why he hates quarterbacks, and his controversial penalties ( - ). Segments include PR 101 for James Harden, Good for Golf, Embrace Debate whats the best time zone and Guys on Chicks

Ndamukong Suh on Hating Quarterbacks and the Mount Rushmore of Fast Food

We are live from the minivan in California as the training camp tour rolls on. Football is officially back because Big Ben Roethlisberger has found his way into a walking boot after a training camp stumble. Big Cat has a theory that the boot is essentially a magical totem for the Steelers quarterback.

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Aug 15, 2018
#22470
Big CatBig Cat

If Ben Roethlisberger puts his walking boot on, it will actually help his head injury heal

I know this medically makes no sense, but I really do think that if Big Ben hurts his head, if he put on his walking boot, he will be better. [It's a] placebo effect.

Medically speaking, a walking boot does not treat a concussion or head injury.

While the guys have been enjoying the West Coast weather, PFT has noticed that it provides an unfair advantage to the local youth.

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Aug 15, 2018
#22471
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The West Coast weather is basically a performance-enhancing drug for high school athletes

The weather is very, very nice. It's like a PED almost for high school kids... You're going to be better at sports if they cared at sports... you can play basketball like 24 hours a day, probably like 11 months out of the year.

While weather impacts training availability, it is not literally a performance-enhancing drug.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank is riding high on his Duke Blue Devils, especially with the arrival of a certain 285-pound human highlight reel. He's convinced the championship window is wide open.

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HankHank

Duke basketball is entering a major championship window because of Zion Williamson

My cool throne is Duke basketball. So they're back. Zion Williamson, my guy. 6'10", 320 pounds... Dunked from the free throw line. Kyrie, Jason Tatum about to take over for the Celtics. So it's going to be a big, big window for Duke basketball.

Duke reached the Elite Eight with Zion but lost to Michigan State. They did not win a national championship during Zion's one year or the immediate window following.

Over in Denver, the quarterback room is getting interesting. PFT is officially on "Swag Watch" as Chad Kelly starts making moves on the depth chart, while Big Cat is busy making sure nobody forgets the legendary ineptitude of Paxton Lynch.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Case Keenum is officially on 'Swag Watch' because Swag Kelly is nipping at his heels

My hot seat is Case Keenum because we are on Swag Watch 2018. Swag Kelly is now the second-string quarterback for the Denver Broncos, nipping at Case's heels, and he's looking pretty good doing it.

Chad Kelly never surpassed Keenum and was released later that year after an off-field incident.
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Big CatBig Cat

Paxton Lynch is the worst draft pick of all time

Paxton Lynch is going to totally get off the hook here. People will just forget he existed, but I will not let him off the hook because... Paxton Lynch stinks, and he's going to probably end up making whatever it was, $15 million for being a first-round pick. That guy needs to be like – someone needs to write a book. Paxton Lynch stinks.

Lynch is officially one of the biggest QB busts in Broncos history, failing to start over even mediocre competition before being released.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Swag Kelly is the most talented quarterback on the Denver Broncos roster

Billy Football first reported that [Swag Kelly] is the most talented quarterback on that roster. Yes. And I love kind of the wildcard-ness that Swag brings. His name's Swag Kelly. He is the epitome of a wildcard.

Kelly was released in October 2018 after a trespassing incident and never became a starter in the NFL, while Keenum started the whole season.

Big Cat also took aim at Dwight Howard's off-season training claims. The idea of Dwight transformational into a perimeter threat is the kind of comedy the NBA needs right now.

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Big CatBig Cat

Dwight Howard's plan to evolve into Kevin Durant and take jumpers will be a disaster

First one is the entire NBA because Dwight Howard, his trainer, has said that Dwight Howard wants to evolve into Anthony Davis, into Kevin Durant, but his own version of that... So Dwight Howard is going to start taking jumpers, which is going to be hilarious. It's going to be fun watching him try to shoot and take shots from John Wall and Bradley Beal.

Dwight Howard never became a perimeter threat or a 'KD version' of himself. His stint with the Wizards was injury-plagued and short-lived.

Meanwhile, the MLB umpires are finding themselves in the line of fire after Ben Zobrist was tossed for demanding some technological assistance behind the plate.

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Big CatBig Cat

Major League Baseball umpires are on the hot seat and we need electronic strike zones

My other hot seat is umps. So Ben Zobrist got tossed in the Cubs-Brewers game today, and on the way out, he said to umpire Phil Cuzzi... That's why we want electronic strike zones. And I think this is going to be the moment where we get this debate going again, and umps are now going to be on the hot seat because they fuck up a couple times a year, like, egregiously.

The debate intensified for years, and while robot umps aren't in MLB yet, the 'Challenge System' and ABS are being tested in the minors and are widely expected to arrive soon.

Mount Rushmore of Fast Food Items

Being in California means the guys have been living on a steady diet of In-N-Out, which clearly influenced the draft. Hank and Big Cat went heavy on the burgers, but PFT stayed focused on the value and the classics, snagging the "Granddaddy" of chicken sandwiches and the premier fry in the game.

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Aug 15, 2018·Mt. Rushmore
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich is the 'Granddaddy of them all' for chicken sandwiches

I'm going to go with a spicy chicken sandwich at Wendy's. I actually had this listed before Chick-fil-A on my big board. So it's a good value pick for me. I think it's kind of the granddaddy of them all as far as chicken sandwiches go.

Subjective taste preference, though Wendy's Spicy Chicken is a Hall of Fame tier fast food item.
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Aug 15, 2018·Mt. Rushmore
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

McDonald's fries are the best fast food item

And then for my last pick, McDonald's fries. Can't believe I got that one in the fourth round. I know. I know.

Commonly cited as the gold standard for fast food fries.

Big Cat made sure to give a nod to a Texas staple that often gets overlooked for its primary menu items.

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Aug 15, 2018·Mt. Rushmore
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Big CatBig Cat

The Whataburger Honey Butter Chicken Biscuit is the best breakfast sandwich in America

Big time honorable mention to Whataburger Honey Butter Chicken Biscuit. Yes. Best breakfast sandwich in America. People forget Whataburger, not the best thing on the menu, is not burgers. It's the Honey Butter Chicken Biscuit. And it is incredible.

Highly regarded in food circles, though subjective.

Ndamukong Suh

One of the most intimidating men in football, Ndamukong Suh, joined Big Cat and PFT in the van at Rams camp. He didn't hold back on his genuine disdain for quarterbacks, though he surprisingly made exceptions for Jay Cutler and his new teammate Jared Goff.

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Aug 15, 2018
#2244
Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

I hate Sam Bradford and Aaron Rodgers most among quarterbacks

Probably most well-known is Sam Bradford because he went number one over me. But Aaron Rodgers is for sure up there. [Bradford]'s a good player. He's obviously done it for many years... but it's always enjoyable to get sacks and interceptions off of him.

Subjective personal feelings of the guest.
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Aug 15, 2018
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Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

Jared Goff is untouchable and one of the few quarterbacks I actually like

Goff is untouchable. He's our good friend. Goff is a good dude. Actually, he's one of a few quarterbacks I actually like. Him and Cutler are on the same page.

Suh and Goff played together successfully for the 2018 season, reaching the Super Bowl.

Suh reflected on his reputation and some of his most famous controversial moments. He offered a very different perspective on the infamous Aaron Rodgers stomp and the heartbreaking end to the 2009 Big 12 Championship.

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Aug 15, 2018
#22475
Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

The Aaron Rodgers stomp was actually his own offensive lineman's fault for pushing me

That situation was interesting because if you go back and look at the play, I was actually tussling with one of his offensive linemen who pushed me and stepped back on him. If you really look at the situation, it was really his old lineman's fault. And that's their job to protect him. So they didn't protect him.

The league disagreed, as Suh was suspended (later reduced to a fine) for the incident, which most viewed as intentional.
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Aug 15, 2018
#2245
Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

Texas should not have had the final second to kick the winning field goal in the 2009 Big 12 Championship

They definitely shouldn't have had an opportunity to kick that field goal. Things happen for a reason... still don't know what that reason is for that particular situation... it was a little controversial to say the least.

The clock hit 0:00 on the broadcast, but officials restored 0:01 after review, allowing Hunter Lawrence to kick the game-winning FG. It remains a point of intense debate in Lincoln.

We also learned that Wade Phillips is a Fortnite king and that Suh has been a long-time advocate for the Scott Frost era in Nebraska.

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Aug 15, 2018
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Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

Wade Phillips is a Fortnite guy who actually wears the gear and plays the game

Wade Phillips... he's definitely animated. He's into Fortnite as well. From what I know, he does play. I've never seen him play, but he definitely has got the gear, sweatshirts, T-shirts and all.

Wade Phillips was well-known on Twitter for his jokes about Fortnite and youth culture during this era.
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Aug 15, 2018
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Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

Hiring Scott Frost was a great decision that should have happened three years ago

Great decision. I wanted it to happen three years ago and actually voted for it... I suggested it, for lack of a better word... Scott Frost has the mechanisms and the – I would say he's cut from a good cloth to be able to do it.

Scott Frost went 16-31 at Nebraska and was fired mid-season in 2022, becoming arguably the biggest failure in program history.

PR 101 and Time Zone Debates

James Harden made headlines for throwing a woman's phone onto a roof in Scottsdale, and Big Cat thinks the MVP missed a golden opportunity to pivot into a tech commercial.

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Aug 15, 2018·Stay Classy
#2248
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden should turn the Scottsdale phone-throwing incident into a cell phone carrier commercial

Dude, every time something like this happens, if you could just figure out a way, if you're James Harden's agent, just create a commercial instantly making fun of this. Do a sprint commercial where you're just grabbing phones out of people's hands, throwing it, then handing them a sprint phone. And everyone would be like, oh, that's funny.

Harden did not do this, though leaning into controversies has become a common strategy for some athletes.

To wrap things up, the guys argued over the best way to consume sports. While many West Coasters brag about 10:00 AM football, Big Cat remains a loyalist to the mid-day starts of the Midwest.

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Big CatBig Cat

The Central Time Zone is the undisputed best time zone for sports fans

The Central Time Zone is by far the best. The problem with everyone who's like West Coast is the best because 10 a.m. football... 10 a.m. is too early. Noon is objectively the perfect time to start a football game... and Monday night football ends at like 11 o'clock. My ranking of time zones goes Central time, mountain time, west coast, east coast.

Purely subjective, though common among Midwest sports fans.

Hopefully, someone checks on Hank's missing tooth before we hit the road for the next camp.

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More Takes

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

An indoor full-court basketball court is the best amenity a sports fan can have in their home

Basically full court indoor basketball trumps all. [I'd take that over] a putting green in your backyard or a half court in your house. [It's better than] two lanes of a bowling alley in your house.

This is entirely a matter of personal preference.
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Aug 15, 2018
#2246
Ndamukong SuhNdamukong Suh

The firing of Jim Caldwell in Detroit was mind-boggling

That was a funny situation, especially for a guy being so successful and being one of the winningest coaches for the Lions... biased, I'm a huge fan of him. Had a tremendous year underneath him. So a little mind boggling with that situation.

Hindsight has looked kindly on Caldwell, as his replacement Matt Patricia was a disaster and the Lions' winning culture collapsed until Dan Campbell's arrival.
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Aug 15, 2018·Talking Golf
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Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods means more to the sport of golf than any other athlete means to their specific sport

The Tiger effect is very real. I mean, we knew this was going to happen, but it just goes to show, like, I don't think there's ever been someone who's meant more to one specific sport than Tiger Woods to golf.

While subjective, golf ratings with and without Tiger are the most drastic disparity in professional sports broadcasting.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The East Coast is better than the West Coast for watching sports

I like East Coast better than West Coast actually... Noon is objectively the perfect time to start a football game. [On the West Coast] it doesn't feel like a big game if it's Sunday night football and it's still light outside. You should get a Purple Heart if you watch sports in the Eastern Time Zone.

This is a subjective preference, though PFT correctly notes that prime-time games on the West Coast often occur during daylight.

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