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Patton Oswalt, We Start A Dungeons And Dragons Game + Waffle House Fighting

Wednesday, May 13, 202018 takes

MLB might be back and NBA seems like its making progress but the real news of the day is Waffle House fighting. (-) We read one of the best stories on the internet about a guy who continually fights the same Waffle House cook for screwing up his eggs. (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a call to Marlins Man. (-) Patton Oswalt joins the show to talk about his new stand up on Netflix, "I Love Everything", comedy in 2020 and being in a million funny shows/movies. (-) We start our bi-monthly Dungeons and Dragons game with Dungeon Master Tim Woods and the gang gets into trouble right off the bat. (-)

Patton Oswalt on Comedy, Waffle House Brawls, and Dungeons & Dragons

We are officially in 'Geek Week' and the human mind is coping with the lack of sports in the most mysterious ways possible. Big Cat and PFT opened the show by monitoring the progress of the MLB and NBA returns, but the real focus was on the billionaire owners in baseball who are suddenly crying poor while refusing to open their books to the players.

Win
May 13, 2020
#13836
Big CatBig Cat

Billionaire MLB owners should pay for their own rosters instead of asking for player concessions

Billionaires should pay for their own fucking rosters. It's also crazy because... there's no salary cap in baseball. So now you're saying there's going to be a salary cap for one year? ... I'm not going to be someone who being like, players, you have to take less just because the guys are saying that they're, the people in charge are saying they're losing money, even though they won't tell you how they're losing money.

The 2020 MLB season was ultimately played with pro-rated salaries after a lengthy labor dispute, aligning with Big Cat's stance that players shouldn't cave to revenue splits.

While the owners try to spin a 50-50 revenue split, Big Cat is actually coming around on the idea of an 82-game season. It turns the MLB season into a high-stakes sprint where a single cold week can ruin your playoff hopes.

Push
May 13, 2020
#21136
Big CatBig Cat

An 82-game MLB season would be a 'sprint' that generates massive TV ratings

I actually think the TV – people will watch it a lot more on TV not only because it's captive audience but an 82-game that's a sprint. If you have a five game losing streak in the 82-game you're sunk. It just means more. Yeah, I like the 82-game season.

The MLB eventually played an even shorter 60-game season. While it was a 'sprint,' World Series ratings in 2020 actually hit an all-time low, largely due to pandemic viewer shifts, though early regular season games saw some boosts.

The Waffle House Chronicles

The guys read one of the greatest stories in the history of the internet: a graduate student who cannot stop getting into fistfights with the same cook at Waffle House. The conflict started over runny eggs and escalated into 'Toad in the Hole' projectiles and weekly wrestling matches. PFT and Big Cat both sided with the boyfriend, noting that having a mortal enemy is actually a sign of a well-adjusted adult.

Void
May 13, 2020
#13838
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Waffle House is one of America's finest institutions

Waffle House is one of America's finest institutions. ... If you're a millionaire, you should still be going to Waffle House on a regular basis. It is the best night food. It's the best breakfast food.

Subjective opinion on food and culture.
Void
May 13, 2020
#13839
Big CatBig Cat

It is healthy for men to have rivals or grudges to drive them every day

I honestly don't – I think this guy is actually the most well-adjusted adult I've ever heard. ... But having a grudge and having a foe that you wake up in the morning, you're like, Fuck that guy. It's healthy. ... Having something to drive you every single day is healthy.

Subjective psychological/lifestyle take.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank put himself on the Hot Seat, or rather his dignity, by guaranteeing a 4-0 sweep over PFT in their upcoming game. If he fails, the shirt is coming off.

Loss
HankHank

I will sweep PFT 4-0 in our Thursday game

4 o'clock on Thursday. You can see, probably going to be a 4-0 sweep, so make sure you sweep it early because it's going to be over early. ... 4-1 or better. [Or] I'll do a show with no shirt on.

Hank typically lost these competitions to PFT, though the specific result of this Thursday stream isn't captured in the transcript, it fits his persona of overconfident predictions.

Meanwhile, PFT took a victory lap on the news that Sammy Watkins is effectively confirming every 'Sammy is in a cult' take the show has had for the last three years. Whether it's the rings of Saturn or solar energy, PFT is just happy Sammy is finding himself.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sammy Watkins is in a cult

My cool throne is Sammy Watkins being in a cult. ... As we've been speculating, we've been squatting on the take that Sammy Watkins is in the cult for like the last three years on the show. Sammy really... talked about all the weird stuff. ... So now he's happy that he's in a cult.

Watkins himself described his intense spiritual journey and beliefs that many characterized as cult-like or highly unconventional.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It doesn't matter what 'fucked up' beliefs Sammy Watkins has as long as he's happy and not hurting anyone

It doesn't matter what kind of fucked up beliefs you have as long as you're happy and you're not actively hurting somebody else. So Sammy Watkins could believe whatever the hell he wants. Be you, dude. Just make sure that your fantasy owners are happy on Sundays.

Watkins played several more seasons and remained known for his unique beliefs, while continuing to be a productive NFL player.

Big Cat saved his most aggressive heat for Darren Rovell. After Rovell tweeted that NFL players get CTE with 'near certainty,' Big Cat and Billy Football went off on the 'soulless' nature of the tweet and the scientific inaccuracy of diagnosing the living.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Darren Rovell is dangerously wrong for claiming NFL players get CTE with near certainty

Darren Rovell is here. All players will sign. (Parentheses. They already get CTE with near certainty). ... How about the simple fact that we can't diagnose CTE in living people yet? So to say anything with near certainty would be completely wrong and dangerous.

Medical consensus at the time (and now) agrees that CTE can only be definitively diagnosed post-mortem and the 99% statistic often cited is based on a skewed sample of symptomatic brains, making Rovell's 'near certainty' claim scientifically inaccurate.

Patton Oswalt

Patton Oswalt joined the show to discuss his new special *I Love Everything* and his incredible career as the guy who is seemingly in every funny show ever made. He gave a masterclass on the evolution of comedy, explaining why he doesn't fear 'woke' culture because the best comedians always find a way to subvert whatever rules are put in place.

Void
May 13, 2020
#13844
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

Clever comedians will always find a way to thrive despite PC or 'woke' culture

Whenever a new stricture comes along, there's always someone that can then come along and find a cool way around it that actually advances things. ... Now it's the PC woke people trying to tamper everything down. People find clever ways around it. There's always the push and then the push through. ... Our job is to find the clever way around it. The clever way around it is to not throw a temper tantrum.

Subjective social commentary.

They also discussed the unique 'corporate culture' of different fanbases. Patton explained why Star Wars fans can be so miserable compared to the wholesome MST3K community, and he even broke down why he hates his own viral 'failure pile' creation at KFC.

Void
May 13, 2020
#13845
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

The Star Wars and Simpsons fanbases are the hardest to please because their 'corporate culture' is built on the idea that they are owed everything

Is the Star Wars fan base the hardest fan base to please? It's up there. I think it's up there with the Simpsons fan base. ... The corporate culture of some of these other fandoms is, 'I am owed everything.' It's the line from The Simpsons when the comic book guy is like, 'it's the worst episode ever, and I feel like they owe me an apology.' They've given you years of entertainment for free, and it just goes, 'worst episode ever.' You just want to be angry.

This is a subjective assessment of fandom behavior.
Void
May 13, 2020
#21140
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

The KFC Famous Bowl is a 'failure pile' that represents how you eat when you are suicidal

I keep seeing people say the phrase 'failure pile in the sadness bowl.' It's how I described the Kentucky Fried Chicken Famous Bowl where they just Kentucky Fried Chicken gave up and go, 'let's just put our menu in a bowl and covered it in cheese and gravy.' They created an entree that is how you eat when you're suicidal. And America said, 'yes, finally, that's what I want.'

Subjective comedic observation on food and depression.

Dungeons & Dragons: Part 1

To close the show, the legendary Dungeon Master Tim Woods returned to lead the crew—and new addition Billy Football—through the start of a massive new campaign. The party consists of Norm the Barbarian (Big Cat), Wayne the Dwarven Bard (PFT), Ehrlich the Gnome Warlock (Hank), and Berserker Billy the Goliath Cleric (Billy).

Things went off the rails immediately when the party reached the village of Greenest. After Big Cat insisted on interrogating children because they 'can't lie,' the party found a barn full of Kobolds. PFT tried to force the monsters to fight each other for the right to be his pet, Big Cat slaughtered two of them for food, and Billy smashed a third. They eventually spared one, named him Bob Costas, and learned that a dragon is currently laying siege to the town.

Next time, we see if Bob Costas the Kobold leads them into a trap or to glory.

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More Takes

Win
May 13, 2020
#13837
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the Lakers win the 2020 title, people will put an asterisk on LeBron James' championship

If the Lakers win, [Hank] is absolutely putting an asterisk on LeBron James' title. ... It will be an asterisk next to that team forever.

The Lakers did win the 2020 NBA Bubble title, and the 'asterisk' debate persists among fans and media today.
Push
HankHank

Lacrosse is the sport of the future

My cool throne is lacrosse, sport of the future. Yep. Paul Rabel figured out betting, so they're doing an event in the summer. People are going to be able to bet on it.

While the PLL has grown, Lacrosse has not overtaken major sports as 'the' sport of the future in a mainstream sense.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

I would rather see Doja Cat's breasts than Nicki Minaj's because Minaj has had too much plastic surgery

Doja Cat said that she would show her tits if she went number one... I would actually say I'd rather see Doja Cat's than Nicki Minaj after all the plastic surgery she's had. Doja Cat seems like she might have the real ones.

Purely a subjective aesthetic preference.
Void
May 13, 2020
#21139
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

In acting and improv, the best way to be memorable is to try to make everyone else in the scene funnier

As you get older, what you learn is the best way to make the whole scene funnier and thus make yourself more memorable is if everyone is trying to make each other funnier in the scene. If you're all setting each other up and the scene starts cooking and then everyone remembers the event of the scene and they remember that you were part of this amazing scene. But if everyone's trying to bulldozer one another... you'll get a funny moment, but the scene will die.

This is a subjective professional philosophy based on Oswalt's long career.
Void
May 13, 2020
#21141
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

The Godfather is a manual for men to articulate how they have to live in the world

That movie [The Godfather] is a way for men to articulate how they have to live in the world. ... There's so many lines in there... literally, 'these aren't the droids you're looking for' [Star Wars] is now like part of a phrase, but the Godfather phrases like 'go to the mattresses'—it's how hard are you willing to commit to winning this battle?

This is a subjective cultural analysis.
Void
May 13, 2020
#21142
Patton OswaltPatton Oswalt

Hatred is for the young; by age 50, you understand people too well to truly hate anyone anymore

You're watching a guy [at 50] embracing 50 and being annoyed with the fact that he actually understands too much, and it's hard to truly hate anything anymore because you know even when someone's being a dick, you maybe know why they're being a dick. You're like, oh, I'm just too old to have hatred anymore. Hatred's for the young. I miss it.

Subjective life philosophy.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Children can't lie

I would like to speak to the children? Children can't lie. Okay?

Children can and do lie frequently as part of developmental growth.

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