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Richie Incognito 05/04/2016

Wednesday, May 4, 201630 takes

The guys break down Leicester City's 5,000-1 win, NHL playoffs, and NBA playoffs with a very important Lebron question. Buffalo Bills offensive lineman Richie Incognito joins the show to discuss playing for Rex and his love for Bills Mafia (- ). Segments include "People Forget That", "Hurt or Injured" and the debut of "Mike Greenberg's dumb rules".

Richie Incognito on Bills Mafia, Rex Ryan, and Beating Up Ferraris

Big Cat and PFT are riding the high of the ultimate sports miracle as Leicester City clinched the Premier League title at 5,000 to 1 odds. While the rest of the sports world is calculating the math on five-dollar bets, PFT is already looking toward the future of the Foxes.

Win
May 4, 2016
#9623
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Leicester City is a fraud if they don't defend their title

If you don't defend your title, you're a fraud. Let's just put our cards on the table here, Leicester City. If you don't defend your title, you're a fraud.

Leicester City finished 12th the following season, failing to defend their title. By PFT's criteria, they are officially frauds.

Big Cat isn't ready to let the story go just yet, mostly because he's jealous of the English soccer fans who are currently in the middle of a month-long bender eating fish and chips. He also pointed out that while American fans might find the system confusing, England actually has the right idea with how they handle bad teams.

Void
May 4, 2016
#9624
Big CatBig Cat

The English Premier League's relegation is the greatest rule in all of sports

The English Premier League has the greatest rule in all of sports with relegation. Every other league should have relegation. The fact that they have relegation trumps all.

This is a subjective opinion about sports rules.

Richie Incognito Joins the Show

Buffalo Bills offensive lineman Richie Incognito joined the program to talk about life under Rex Ryan and the chaos of Bills Mafia. He fit right in immediately, confirming that he is 100% on board with fans lighting themselves on fire and jumping through tables in the parking lot. Richie even admitted that he and center Eric Wood have discussed sending jerseys to the fans with the best tailgate videos, though the legal team probably wouldn't love the liability of rewarding a condiment bukkake.

When the conversation shifted to the 2016 NFL Draft and the Laremy Tunsil gas mask video, Richie had some veteran advice for the rookie.

Win
May 4, 2016
#9631
Richie IncognitoRichie Incognito

Laremy Tunsil should quit social media and just play ball

Quit social media. Lock yourself away. Just hang with my guy Pouncey down there. Hang with Tannehill. Hang around good guys like that. And you know what? Just do your thing because all that other stuff has nothing to do with football.

Tunsil went on to have a successful Pro Bowl career, largely moving past his draft night controversy.

Richie didn't hold back on the locker room hierarchy either. While he loves his teammates, he was very clear about where the specialist unit stands in the grand scheme of professional sports.

Void
May 4, 2016
#9633
Richie IncognitoRichie Incognito

Kickers and punters are not actual people

Kickers are not people. We can get Pat McAfee on here right now. Kickers are not people. I love kickers. Kickers are my boys, but they are not people. They are kickers. Punters... they're in the same boat.

This is a comedic/subjective take on positional value in football.

We also got the full story behind the infamous Ferrari incident. Richie described the pure catharsis of taking a baseball bat to his dream car during his year away from football, racking up a $26,000 repair bill in the process. He also shared his thoughts on the current trend of NFL players sharing every single moment of their offseason on Instagram.

Void
May 4, 2016
#22486
Richie IncognitoRichie Incognito

NFL players who post workout videos on social media are annoying; just do your job and show it on the field

I will say that all these guys posting videos of themselves working out now, that I disagree with. That, I mean, I draw the line somewhere. Like, duh, you're doing your job. You're working out. The whole world doesn't need to know about it. Rise and grind, yeah. Show me on the football field.

This is a personal preference regarding athlete behavior.

LeBron's "It" Factor and NBA Talk

PFT brought a hard-hitting question to the table regarding LeBron James and whether he truly possesses the necessary DNA to win a title without his Heat superstars.

Win
May 4, 2016
#9627
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Does LeBron James have the 'it factor' and the 'clutch gene' to win without Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh?

My question is, does LeBron have the it factor? I don't think people are talking about this enough. He's won a couple championships, but the years that he won it, was he really the it guy? Did he really have that clutch gene? He still has to get it done on his own this postseason without the help of future Hall of Famers Dwyane Wade and [Chris Bosh].

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LeBron won the 2016 Finals without Wade or Bosh, effectively answering this satirical question.

Big Cat remains a believer in the King, noting that LeBron dominates the Eastern Conference every spring like clockwork. The guys also broke down the Thunder-Spurs series, specifically the erratic behavior of one Chris Webber on the broadcast.

Void
May 4, 2016
#9630
Big CatBig Cat

Chris Webber was definitely betting on the Thunder-Spurs game

Chris Webber, I'm pretty sure Chris Webber was betting on this game because I've never heard anyone so emotionally invested in a game... It was clear that Chris Webber had money on this game.

While Chris Webber's broadcast was highly emotional, there is no public record or proof that he had a wager on the game.

New Segments and All Lives Matter

The show featured the debut of "Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules," where the guys mocked the idea of adding challenge flags to the NBA and the draconian steroid policies floating around sports talk radio. Big Cat offered a much more reasonable compromise for the PED era.

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Big CatBig Cat

Steroid users should be allowed to use them as long as they don't work out

I think for steroids, you should be able to use them as long as you don't abuse them... If you use steroids, you can't lift any weights. This is the Pardon My Take 'use it, don't abuse it' rule. If you use it, stay out of the gym.

This is a comedic proposed rule change.

In a very educational "People Forget That," PFT reminded everyone that the Green Bay Packers once drafted an actual serial killer. While the I-5 Killer was certainly a menace, Big Cat still thinks there are bigger busts in the history of the league.

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Big CatBig Cat

Ryan Leaf and Johnny Manziel are bigger busts than a serial killer

I think Ryan Leaf and Johnny Manziel still are bigger [busts].

This is a subjective ranking of draft failures.

To wrap things up, the guys looked at a concerning new promotion from the San Diego Chargers involving Philip Rivers and a Mother's Day contest.

Void
May 4, 2016
#22487
Big CatBig Cat

Philip Rivers is using the 'Ultimate Chargers Mom' contest to hook up with moms in San Diego

I feel like Philip Rivers is about to hook up with some moms in the San Diego area. You're giving a guy who loves moms because he's got 10 kids. He loves sex. He loves moms. And you're having this guy do a photo judge and call a mom? I don't know, Chargers. Feels like a bad idea.

This is a purely satirical joke about Philip Rivers' reputation.

If you see Philip Rivers at a local San Diego brunch spot this Sunday, mind your business.

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Void
May 4, 2016
#22483
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The media is talking way too much about the Leicester City gambling odds and not enough about the actual team

I actually don't think that we've heard enough about the story [of Leicester City]. I think that we've heard way, way, way too much about what the gambling odds were at the start of the year. That's fair.

This is a subjective critique of sports media coverage patterns at the time.
Void
May 4, 2016
#22484
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NHL teams should exploit a loophole by signing injury-prone players to get opponents' stars suspended through ticky-tack hits

There's like a loophole that could be exploited here to sign a bunch of like Eric Lindros's kids, or maybe even Lindros himself, someone who has that weakness in their game, who gets concussed really easily, and then just wipe out all of your opponent's best players through really small ticky-tack hits that end up knocking you out.

This is a satirical strategy and not a verifiable claim.
Win
May 4, 2016
#22485
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James and the Cavaliers will win the Eastern Conference

LeBron, unfortunately, I've been through this many times. He does this every single year... then the spring comes around, and LeBron's like, 'oh, yeah, I'm LeBron,' and he just dominates everyone. But LeBron's going to win the East.

The Cavaliers won the 2016 Eastern Conference Finals against the Toronto Raptors.
Win
May 4, 2016
#9628
Big CatBig Cat

Chris Bosh is a first-ballot Hall of Famer because the Basketball Hall of Fame lets everyone in

The Basketball Hall of Fame lets in basically anyone who played basketball for more than 10 years. So Bosh is a first ballot then. There's really no rhyme or reason... 50% of the basketball world is a Hall of Famer.

Chris Bosh was indeed elected to the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility (2021).
Void
May 4, 2016
#9635
Richie IncognitoRichie Incognito

Nebraska football is an unsuccessful program if they aren't playing for championships

I want to see them back. I want to see them, you know, if Nebraska isn't playing for national championships, it's an unsuccessful year.

Nebraska has not played for a national championship since Incognito's era, making every year since 'unsuccessful' by his standard.
Void
May 4, 2016
#9637
Richie IncognitoRichie Incognito

Jay Glazer is better than Adam Schefter because Schefter is a 'nerd'

Did you pick Jay instead of Schefter because Schefter's a nerd and everyone wants to give him a swirly? 100%. Glazer's the man... Jay has so many relationships. He is so dialed that anything big goes through Jay.

This is a subjective preference for one NFL insider over another.
Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Green Bay Packers drafted a serial killer and he's the biggest bust in NFL history

People forget that the Green Bay Packers drafted a serial killer. In 1974, they drafted a legit serial killer. His name is Randy Woodfield... Would you say he's like the biggest bust in NFL draft history?

The Packers did draft Randy Woodfield in the 17th round of the 1974 draft. Calling a 17th-round pick who never played a 'bust' is comedic exaggeration.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Pablo Sandoval is 'hurt' because he's fat, not 'injured'

I'd say he's hurt. I wouldn't say he's injured. I think his whole body is... he's just so out of shape. He's like, 'ow, I slept on it funny, I'm out for the rest of the season.' That's a fat guy thing. You start making up injuries in your brain.

Sandoval actually required surgery for a labrum tear, which usually qualifies as an 'injury' rather than just being 'hurt'.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pablo Sandoval will be just as good from the right side as the left side next year

So his right hand is going to be getting a lot of exercise. He's got a wipe, J-O, you name it... flash forward to next season, he might be just as good from the right side as he is from the left. So keep an eye on that.

Sandoval's career continued to decline and he never regained his previous form from either side of the plate.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

PFT Commenter Owns 'No Pressure No Diamonds' Now

No pressure no diamonds, slow it down. PFT owns your slogan now.

PFT Commenter actually trademarked 'No Pressure No Diamonds.' This cease and desist rap had legal standing.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3's Real Trademark Is Not Playing Smart

Your real trademark is that you don't play smart. So stop or your punch clock at Kmart.

RG3 was widely criticized for poor decision-making, particularly scrambling into hits. He never worked at Kmart, but his NFL career did end prematurely.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Folds And Splatters Under Pressure

And to be honest you more like the latter. When the pressure is on you fold and splatter.

RG3 went 13-21 as a starter after his rookie year and was out of the NFL by 2017. Folded and splattered is a fair summary.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

PFT Commenter Drenches You In Rainy Rain Takes

He's in the trenches dude, so check your mentions fool. In rainy rain takes he drenches you.

PFT Commenter's rain takes were indeed prolific and unmatched in the sports media landscape.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

PFT Has Two Good Knees And RG3 Has None

He got two good knees and a microphone. You got no more cheese and your fight is gone.

RG3 suffered devastating knee injuries in both the 2012 playoffs and 2013 preseason. PFT's knees remain unconfirmed but presumed healthy.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Should Respect Shanahan

Respect Shanahan, I don't plan to scram.

The RG3-Shanahan feud was well-documented. Reasonable people disagree on who was more at fault, but 'respect Shanahan' is a defensible position.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Needs A Mammogram — Just Be A Manly Man

You need a mammogram, just be a manly man.

The American Cancer Society does not recommend routine mammograms for men, though male breast cancer accounts for about 1% of all cases. Early detection saves lives regardless of gender.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Disappointed The Dog Pound Just Like He Did Atlanta

Don't disappoint the Dog Pound like in Atlanta man.

RG3 went 1-4 as a starter in Cleveland in 2016 and was benched. He did indeed disappoint the Dog Pound.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Went From Deadspin Redskin To Downtown Browns Clown

You was a Deadspin Redskin full of the drama. Now you a downtown Browns clown in love with Osama.

RG3's career arc from Washington media circus to Cleveland punchline is accurately summarized here. The Deadspin reference captures the constant negative coverage.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Did Subway Commercials — You Know Who Else Did?

RG Knee, so controversial. You know who else did Subway commercials?

RG3 did appear in Subway ads. Jared Fogle was sentenced to 15+ years in prison in 2015. The implication is devastating.
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L. Ron MexicoL. Ron Mexico

RG3 Goes 4-12 Unless He Comes On The Podcast

Spoiler alert: RG3 goes 4 and 12. Unless he comes on the podcast, then he goes 10 and 6 and make the playoffs.

The Browns went 1-15 in 2016 — worse than even the 4-12 prediction. RG3 did not come on the podcast. The conditional remains untestable.

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