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Robert Griffin III, The 41 Free Throw Challenge, Super Bowl Clean Up And We're Low On Sleep

Wednesday, February 14, 202421 takes

We start with some Super Bowl clean up and the boys are very low on sleep and borderline delirious. We taped the first 20 minutes of the show at 3 am, left to shoot more free throws during Hot Seat/Cool Throne (-) and then returned after we had finally completed the free throw challenge at 8 am. We go on some wild side tangents to different places in the recess of our brain (-). Robert Griffin III joins us in studio as we talk about his career, how he saved football for PFT, is he too horny online? And tons more (-). We finish with Pardon Your Take from the listeners (-).

Robert Griffin III on Washington Drama, 41 Free Throws, and Mahomes' Greatness

Big Cat and PFT are recording this one in a state of total sleep deprivation. The show starts at 3:00 AM in the middle of a grueling 16-hour quest to hit 41 free throws in a row, and by the time they finish, the sun is up and their brains are completely cooked. It is the type of episode where side tangents about the moon and Jerry Seinfeld having AIDS feel perfectly logical.

Super Bowl Cleanup and Overtime Logic

The guys spend some time reflecting on the Chiefs' win and Kyle Shanahan’s inability to get over the hump. PFT isn't ready to let Shanahan off the hook for the 49ers' overtime strategy, or lack thereof. He thinks the logic needs to shift entirely if a team finds themselves in that position again.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5460
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL teams that score first in overtime should go for two

If you do get the ball first in overtime and you score, should you preemptively go for two? That would be the only thing that could save the 49ers if they said, yeah, our plan was to go for two if we scored a touchdown.

The 49ers did not score a touchdown first, so the theory wasn't tested, but the math on this is a major talking point in analytics circles.

Despite the coaching blunders, the narrative always circles back to the dominance of the Chiefs. PFT thinks the label is officially permanent for the Niners' head coach until he actually holds the Lombardi Trophy.

Win
Feb 14, 2024
#5461
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Shanahan is officially the coach that can't win a Super Bowl

This is a label that's gonna wear on him. It is what he is at this point. Like until he wins a Super Bowl, we're just gonna say, yeah, Kyle Shanahan is the guy that can't win a Super Bowl.

Shanahan remains without a Super Bowl ring as of mid-2024.

Speaking of the Chiefs, the guys are starting to think Patrick Mahomes isn't even human anymore. Between his ability to recover his own fumbles and his legendary poise, the supercomputer comparisons are starting to feel like reality.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5462
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Patrick Mahomes will soon reach AI-like super computer status

He'll soon reach super computer status where he'll know what to do before each play starts. He's just becoming AI. We've got AI Mahomes.

This is a hyperbolic description of football IQ.

The 41 Free Throw Gauntlet

The most impressive part of this episode is the sheer commitment to the bit. After Big Cat choked on shot 39 at 3:00 AM, the guys had to grind for another seven hours. Jake brought in a ringer, Pat Bev showed up in the middle of the night to hit 12 in a row, and Hank eventually retreated to the couch to hibernate like a little baby. They finally hit the mark after 7,608 total attempts, proving that while they might not be athletes, they are definitely stubborn.

RGIII on the Washington Experience

Robert Griffin III joins the show in studio for an interview that PFT has been waiting for since 2012. It gets emotional early, as PFT admits that RGIII’s rookie year was the reason he fell back in love with football and started his Twitter account. RGIII addresses everything from the terrible grass at FedEx Field to the internal power struggles between Dan Snyder and the Shanahans. He even confirms that he hasn't officially closed the door on his playing days.

Push
Feb 14, 2024
#5470
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

I can still play in the NFL and am not technically retired

Can I still play in the NFL? Yes. Yes. Are you retired technically? No. I have not put in my paperwork or, you know, signed my anything with like the trust or anything like that. I've done that on purpose because I didn't want to have to do it twice. But no, I, I just train every week like I'm a player and then if I get the call, I'm ready to roll.

While he hasn't filed retirement papers, he hasn't been signed to an NFL roster in years.

Looking back at his career, Robert Griffin III is remarkably candid about the mistakes made by the organization and himself. He admits that he should have been protected more, especially considering he wasn't even close to 100% following his rookie year injuries.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5476
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

I shouldn't have played at all in the 2013 NFL season

I came away from watching that tape in 2013, honestly disgusted. I shouldn't have played at all in 2013. Gave myself a full, a full year of not just watching tape and building those bonds. The bottom line is, I did play, and what you put on tape is how they're going to judge you.

Hindsight from the athlete himself.

He also weighs in on the current state of the league, specifically how the media treats quarterbacks compared to coaches. RGIII explains that because coaches stick around for decades, the media is incentivized to stay on their good side, often at the expense of the players' reputations.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#22752
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

Media coverage favors coaches over players because coaches have longer careers

Players need to know that there's a reason that the mainstream media has the coaches' backs. And it's because no matter how long you play, that coach is gonna coach longer... That relationship with that coach is more important than that relationship with the player. So when you see narratives like Russell Wilson, and you see like, okay, there's like one or two guys that are talking [badly] about the coach... it's because they know that coach is still gonna be coaching.

This is a systemic observation of media dynamics that is generally accepted by industry insiders but remains subjective.

Mahomes and the Greatness Debate

To wrap up the interview, RGIII gives his takes on the current crop of elite quarterbacks. He isn't interested in the "game manager" talk surrounding Brock Purdy, and he thinks the football world needs to appreciate what they are seeing from Patrick Mahomes while it's happening.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5483
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

Patrick Mahomes is the second greatest quarterback in history after only six years

Mahomes is either gonna have two Super Bowls in his six years, or he is gonna have three Super Bowls. So he'll already have been the second greatest quarterback in NFL history. In six years. It's crazy. He's on a Brady track.

Subjective ranking, though Mahomes has a strong case against Montana for the #2 spot.

He also pleads for the media to give younger stars like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen the same leash that legends of the past enjoyed before they finally secured a ring.

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5485
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen deserve the same grace period Peyton Manning had

It took Peyton Manning nine seasons to win one Super Bowl. And Lamar's going into year seven. So give him that grace that we gave to some of these others. Same with Josh Allen. I hate the fact that they're debating whether he's great on TV every freaking week when he loses a game.

Comparison of career arcs is subjective.

If the guys can survive 16 hours of shooting free throws and a trip to Vegas, they can survive anything. We're going on vacation, and nobody deserves it more than Big Cat's right arm and PFT's spirit.

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More Takes

Void
Feb 14, 2024
#22748
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Every woman in America currently believes she is Taylor Swift

Every woman in America thinks she's Taylor Swift. Like they're living vicariously through Taylor Swift. There will be guys that get plastic surgery to look more like Travis Kelce so they can start dating women.

This is a hyperbolic social observation that cannot be objectively verified.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#22749
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The moon is a worthless piece of shit that is overrated

The moon is kind of overrated, by the way... It used to protect us against asteroids. That's why there's all those craters on there. Haven't seen an asteroid hit the moon in millions of years. Worthless piece of shit.

The moon's value and 'rating' are entirely matters of comedic opinion.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5463
Big CatBig Cat

Caleb Williams is putting up too much bulletin board material before entering the NFL

I do want him on the Bears. But like, you gotta play in the NFL first, dude. You gotta know the pictures. He's putting up a lot of bulletin board material on himself. Well, in the last like full year. Get there and be good for a little bit and then you could do anything you want.

Subjective opinion on a player's off-field activities.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5464
Jake MarshJake Marsh

The playoff overtime rules should be the regular season overtime rules

They need to make that the regular season overtime rule. I, I really don't understand. And the excitement factor and the strategy and the risk involved is it's so different.

Jake Marsh's opinion that playoff OT rules should be the regular season rules is a subjective opinion about NFL rule changes, not a verifiable prediction.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5465
Big CatBig Cat

College football overtime should have no kicking

Do you know what they should do? They should do college football overtime. No kicking. You just like, it's just score a touchdown from the 25. Everyone can hit a field goal in the NFL from 25. I'm just saying you just only can score a touchdown.

Hypothetical rule change proposal.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The return of the bubonic plague is a sign to not get a cat

I'm putting all of humanity on the hot seat because I read an article today that the bubonic plague is back. They found it in Oregon. Somebody caught it from their cat... maybe a reminder: don't get a cat now.

Comedic advice based on a real but extremely rare event.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Taco Bell Cheez-It Crunchwrap will be elite

Let me just say that The Cheez-It Crunchwrap looks elite. Yes. It looks, I without tasting it, I can tell you that's probably on my Mount Rushmore of Taco Bell Foods.

The Cheez-It Crunchwrap was released to generally positive reviews but reviews are subjective.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5472
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

I ran a 4.38 forty-yard dash on camera last year

I ran a 4, 2, 5 last year. So you're faster than you've ever been. It was hand times. But then they actually went back and timed it on the camera and then it was a 4, 3, 8. So we'll go 4, 3, 8. I'm cool with that. Listen that, that's faster than I've ever been to be honest.

Hard to verify without the raw footage, but he did beat an eagle/hawk in a race on TV.
Loss
Feb 14, 2024
#5474
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

The Washington Commanders will likely change their name again

I think it's a terrible name. Yeah, I think it's an awful name, man. I don't think it's gonna be Commanders long term. Because if you've seen Josh Harris, I kept an eye on this all year. He always wears the Washington hat, right? With the W on it. I've never seen him wear Commanders on his shirts.

The Washington Commanders have not changed their name. Owner Josh Harris confirmed the Commanders name is not changing.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5478
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

NFL teams shouldn't draft a QB into a split front office situation

If I'm an evaluator, I'm a GM, I'm never drafting a quarterback into a situation where there's a split in the building. Don't do that. 'Cause the kid's not gonna be able to have the best chance to be successful. You can't draft a guy if everybody's not gonna be in lockstep to help develop that guy.

General consensus in football management, though occasionally teams succeed despite it.
Win
Feb 14, 2024
#22751
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

The Giants made a mistake by signing Daniel Jones to a major contract

Why did they [the Giants] decide to pay Daniel Jones? A lot of that is, you know, they don't want to admit that they made a mistake. They made a mistake.

Jones struggled significantly and dealt with injuries after signing the deal, and the Giants eventually moved on from him as the franchise starter, validating this take in hindsight.
Void
Feb 14, 2024
#5480
Robert Griffin IIIRobert Griffin III

Brock Purdy played the quarterback position better than anyone else this year

If you just look at Brock Purdy stats from the regular season, you'd say he was the best quarterback in the NFL this year. Lamar was the MVP, Brock Purdy played the quarterback position better than anybody in the NFL. He's a creator. He creates plays for them, not just with ball placement, but with his legs.

Highly debated topic; Purdy led in many efficiency metrics but Lamar won the MVP.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would rather experience Damar Hamlin's on-field medical emergency than Alex Smith's leg injury because you get a peak at the afterlife

DeMar [Hamlin over Alex Smith]. Because you get a peak at the afterlife. For sure... you get treated as a hero when you come back... you get a free clone.

A personal preference in a hypothetical scenario.

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