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Thanksgiving Special - Paul Bissonnette, Mike Miller, Chuck Lidell

Wednesday, November 21, 201818 takes

Thanksgiving is finally here and it's time to eat, gamble, and watch sports for 5 days straight. (-) Recap of the unreal MNF game between the Rams and Chiefs. Rovell loves the sports bar that is twitter. Preview of Thanksgiving day football. (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne. (-) Former NHL Superstar Paul Bissonnette joins the show to talk about the hockey season thus far, why Judge Judy pisses him off, and what it's like to not be able to celebrate Thanksgiving as a Canadian. (-) Segments include JR Smith uhhh ya think,(-) Trouble in Paradise Washington Wizards,(-) Phil vs Tiger, (-) and Takesgiving where we take listener submitted question/takes on Thanksgiving. (-)Bonus interviews with 2X NBA Champion and Lebron Apologist Mike Miller. Talking about his new role as Memphis Asst Coach under Penny Hardaway, recruiting the Number 1 player in the country, and what it's like playing with Lebron. (-) Plus Chuck Lidell talking his upcoming fight with Tito Ortiz and getting back in shape (-).

Paul Bissonnette, Mike Miller, and Chuck Liddell on Thanksgiving Traditions

We have officially reached the best stretch of the calendar year. Big Cat and PFT are ready to mail it in for five straight days of gambling, eating, and avoiding family interaction. PFT is already looking ahead to the New Year, declaring that the corporate world is effectively shuttered until January.

Void
Nov 21, 2018
#27973
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

No work gets done in corporate America between the day before Thanksgiving and January 3rd

I would go one step further than that and say the year's over. No work gets done in corporate America between the day before Thanksgiving and, you know, after New Year's... and January 3rd. Get those out-of-office replies ready.

This is a subjective observation of corporate culture, though many would agree the 'holiday slide' is real.

The Monday Night Football shootout between the Rams and Chiefs set the stage for the week, though Big Cat couldn't help but notice the inevitable overreactions regarding the "death of defense." Despite the 54-51 scoreline, Big Cat remains skeptical that some players are truly as dominant as the box score suggests.

Loss
Nov 21, 2018
#2907
Big CatBig Cat

I'm still holding onto my take that Aaron Donald is too undersized to be successful

What Aaron Donald is doing as an interior lineman is insane. I still think [Donald] is too undersized to be successful... the people who are yelling that this is not football anymore, I think that's a little bit of an overreaction.

Aaron Donald is one of the greatest defensive players ever, making the 'too small' take hilariously wrong.

Thanksgiving Picks and Takesgiving

The slate for Thursday is loaded with storylines, specifically the Bears traveling to Detroit on a short week. PFT is backing the Monsters of the Midway to handle business against the Lions, even with questions surrounding Mitch Trubisky’s shoulder.

Win
Nov 21, 2018·Picks
#2908
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm taking the Bears -3.5 against the Lions on Thanksgiving

Right now the Bears are favored by 3.5 points. I like the Bears. The defense looks legit... I would take them by 10.

The Bears beat the Lions 23-16 on Thanksgiving 2018, covering the 3.5 point spread.

Moving to the afternoon window, the guys looked at the NFC East clash between the Redskins and Cowboys. While PFT is riding with the "Cowboy Killer" Colt McCoy to keep things close, Big Cat is eyeing a defensive struggle in Big D.

Loss
Nov 21, 2018·Picks
#2909
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm taking the Redskins +7.5 against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving

Listen, 7.5 is a lot to give to Colt McCoy. Colt McCoy, he's a cowboy killer... I'm going to take the Redskins.

The Cowboys beat the Redskins 31-23, covering the 7.5 spread by a half-point.
Loss
Nov 21, 2018·Picks
#2914
Big CatBig Cat

I'm taking the under in the Redskins-Cowboys Thanksgiving game

I think the under's the way to go here. 40 and a half? Yeah, I feel like both these teams are going to struggle often. They both have good defenses.

The Cowboys won 31-23, for a total of 54 points, which went well over the 40.5 line.

In Hot Seat/Cool Throne, the guys checked in on the dumpster fire that is the Washington Wizards. After reports of John Wall and Bradley Beal feuding with everyone from the coaching staff to the front office, Big Cat thinks it's time to pull the plug on the current roster.

Win
Nov 21, 2018
#27976
Big CatBig Cat

The Washington Wizards need to blow up their roster because the players hate each other

Washington Wizards are a dumpster fire... The whole team just hates each other. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result... Why wouldn't you trade someone? Because, I mean, they tried, and it still hasn't worked. Just blow the whole thing up.

The Wizards eventually traded Wall in 2020 and Beal in 2023, effectively blowing it up as suggested.

Meanwhile, PFT has a radical solution for Markelle Fultz’s ongoing shooting woes that involves a trip to the Amazon jungle rather than a shooting coach.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ayahuasca could help fix Markelle Fultz's mental block

That could actually probably help Markelle Fultz because it's all in his mind. [Ayahuasca] will clear you up... his brain is broken.

Fultz never publicly tried Ayahuasca and struggled for years, though he eventually found a role in Orlando.

Paul Bissonnette on NHL Parity and Judge Judy

Our good friend Biz Nasty joined the show to discuss the NHL season and his budding media empire with Spittin' Chicklets. Biz broke down why the NHL's structure creates a better product than the super-team era of the NBA, even if he admits the NBA wins the drama category.

Void
Nov 21, 2018
#2912
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

NHL parity is what makes it superior to all other major sports

To me, the parity is what strengthens the NHL over all the other major sports... things are constantly shaken up because of those rules... in the NBA, it's just like, hey, who's going to play the Warriors?

Whether parity makes a sport 'superior' is entirely subjective.
Void
Nov 21, 2018
#27974
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

The NBA off-court drama is more entertaining than the actual games

The NBA is like – I find the off-court stuff more entertaining than the actual product itself and that's why I think that it's it's such a [successful] league... because people are just obsessed with the drama. It's like an episode of WAGS but you don't even need the wives or girlfriends, you need the players.

Subjective opinion on entertainment value.

The conversation turned to Jalen Ramsey’s claim that he could play pro hockey. Biz gave the Jaguars cornerback some credit for his freakish athleticism but suggested he might want to keep his day job before trying to grind it out in the minor leagues.

Void
Nov 21, 2018
#2911
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Jalen Ramsey could eventually play in the fourth-tier SPHL with six months of training

If he had six months of elite training as far as becoming a hockey player, I think that he could maybe make the ECHL... I'll bump that down even more. Maybe the SPHL, which is the fourth league. And at that point, you're making $250 a week... but mentally he wouldn't understand the game much.

Ramsey never attempted to play professional hockey, so this remains a hypothetical.

Beyond hockey, Biz used his platform to air a very specific grievance against a television icon. After hearing a story about a friend’s encounter with Judge Judy at a restaurant, Biz is officially off the Judy bandwagon.

Void
Nov 21, 2018
#27975
Paul BissonnettePaul Bissonnette

Judge Judy is extremely rude and needs to mind her own business

I'm not a big Judge Judy fan. She's just very rude to people. Like, 'no, shut up.' I'm not down with that... [She] grabbed my friend's hat and took it off and said, 'you know, take your hat off in a restaurant' and walked away. I was fuming when he told me this. My blood was boiling... I would have given her the finger wave and I would have went back at her.

Subjective opinion on personality and etiquette.

Mike Miller and Chuck Liddell

Double NBA Champion and noted LeBron apologist Mike Miller called in to talk about his new gig on Penny Hardaway’s staff at Memphis. Big Cat and PFT tried to get the scoop on the nation’s top recruit, and Big Cat isn't waiting for an official announcement to declare victory for the Tigers.

Win
Nov 21, 2018
#2917
Big CatBig Cat

James Wiseman is going to sign with Memphis

He's going to sign with Memphis on Tuesday... He's going to sign with Memphis.

James Wiseman did sign with Memphis on November 20, 2018.

Miller also shared some incredible insights from his time playing alongside LeBron James, including a weighing-room story that defies the laws of biology.

Win
Nov 21, 2018
#27978
Mike MillerMike Miller

LeBron James weighed more after playing a game than he did before it

I literally watched the man. He was actually seven pounds [heavier]. In Miami, you weighed in before games and after games. The man weighed at 260 before the game, and he got done playing 42 minutes and had crazy stats and ended up weighing in at 267. He's not human.

While scientifically bizarre, it's a stated observation by a teammate that has been repeated by others (like Erik Spoelstra).

To wrap things up, the Iceman himself, Chuck Liddell, hopped on to preview his trilogy fight against Tito Ortiz. There is zero love lost between the two legends, and Chuck expects the night to end very early for Tito.

Loss
Nov 21, 2018
#2919
Chuck LiddellChuck Liddell

I'm going to knock out Tito Ortiz in the first round

I actually am thinking I'm going to knock him out in the first round... I don't expect to make that [past] the first round.

Tito Ortiz knocked out Chuck Liddell in the first round of their fight on November 24, 2018.

Make sure you deep fry your turkey correctly this year by following PFT’s foolproof, totally safe instructions.

Loss
Nov 21, 2018·Takesgiving
#27977
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The best way to deep fry a turkey is to make sure it is completely frozen

The best way to prepare a turkey, in my opinion, is by deep frying it... If you deep fry it, make sure that it's completely frozen... A lot of people burn their house down every year, so make sure it's totally frozen. And then drop it from a high surface area and make sure it all spills over and do it indoors.

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This is dangerously incorrect; putting a frozen turkey in a deep fryer causes a massive fire/explosion due to the water-oil reaction.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone except Darren Rovell.

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More Takes

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

I'm guaranteeing Duke wins the national championship

I'm guaranteeing Duke wins. [Big Cat] is guaranteeing Duke wins.

Duke lost to Michigan State in the Elite Eight of the 2019 NCAA Tournament; Virginia won the title.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

I am rooting for Washington State to get into the College Football Playoff

I now am rooting for Washington State to get into the playoff just to piss off... Mike Leach... is going to make [Saban or Harbaugh] so angry because they're all serious.

Washington State lost the Apple Cup to Washington and failed to reach the CFP in 2018.
Void
Nov 21, 2018
#2916
Mike MillerMike Miller

LeBron James is by far the best player I ever played with

Well, clearly [LeBron James] is the best by far. I think you give D-Wade the nod [for second] because he has three championships, but T-Mac to me was the hardest cover ever.

This is a subjective evaluation of talent/greatness.

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