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The Last Dance Finale, Karl Malone, And Mt Rushmore Of Grit Week Moments

Monday, May 18, 202030 takes

The Last Dance Finale. We discuss the end of the Bulls dynasty, Reggie Miller, Pacers Karen, and MJ's final shit list. (-) Who's back of the week including sports and shorts. (-) Karl Malone joins the show to talk about the NBA in the 90's, playing against MJ's Bulls, and the Dream Team. (-) Segments include Drunk Idea Mt Rushmore of Grit Week moments in honor of Grit Week normally starting today (-) and Billy Football teaches us about Cover 2. (-)

Karl Malone on The Last Dance, the Dream Team, and Grit Week Nostalgia

The finale of The Last Dance has aired, and it feels like the end of an era. Watching the Bulls dynasty crumble in real-time was heavy, but Big Cat noticed a lingering curse that might explain the last two decades of Chicago basketball.

Void
May 18, 2020
#7076
Big CatBig Cat

The Chicago Bulls organization is on Michael Jordan's list now, and that's why they've been doomed ever since

I think the reason why the Bulls have been doomed ever since is because the Bulls are actually on Michael Jordan's list now, too. If you watch that last moment when he has the iPad available... anyone who ends up on MJ's shit list... is screwed forever.

The Bulls have not won a title since 1998, though whether this is due to a 'curse' from MJ is subjective.

Between Reggie Miller acting like a twerp and Steve Kerr delivering a legendary celebration speech in what were definitely not cargo shorts, the documentary delivered. PFT was specifically struck by Reggie’s philosophy on Game 7s, which basically explains why MJ always had his number.

Void
May 18, 2020
#7077
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Reggie Miller's 'throw away the game plan' quote is what losers say in Game 7s

I knew that there was a difference between Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan was in this documentary when Reggie Miller said, when you get to Game 7, you just throw away your game plan entirely because it's all about who wants it more in a Game 7. It's like that's exactly what somebody who loses a Game 7 says. Like, yeah, the whole like they wanted it more and you don't have a game plan. Michael Jordan wanted you to think that they didn't have a game plan. Michael Jordan absolutely had a game plan in that Game 7.

This is a subjective interpretation of coaching and player psychology.

Big Cat was moved by the 1998 finale, noting that we likely witnessed a television record that will never be broken in our lifetime because of how fractured media has become.

Void
May 18, 2020
#29708
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

MJ's reverse angle footage from the 1998 Finals finally proves he didn't push off Bryon Russell

The alleged push-off that he had on that shot... I think this documentary changed my mind. I no longer think that it was a foul that he pushed off. [Jordan] drop this one angle that no one's ever really seen that makes it look like I did not push off Byron Russell, which now I totally believe it.

This is a subjective interpretation of a sports play, though the reverse angle did change public perception for many.

The Mailman Delivers (While Shirtless)

Karl Malone joined the show from his hunting trophy room, sitting shirtless with a Doberman and an African gray parrot named Lisa. He made it clear from the jump that he hasn't been watching the documentary and has no plans to start now. He’s a blue-blooded American who doesn't feel the need to relive the 90s for a camera crew.

Void
May 18, 2020
#20572
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

You aren't a real wrestling fan because you didn't actually wrestle; I'm trained and I live my dreams

Don't try to say you're a wrestling fan. You didn't wrestle. I'm trained. I live my dreams... you're not a wrestling fan. I'm a wrestling fan. I wrestle. I live my dreams. Don't try to say you're a wrestling fan.

Malone literally wrestled in WCW, but the definition of a 'fan' is subjective.

Karl Malone was a physical force, but he attributes his longevity and success to being an early adopter of the weight room when other guys were just relying on natural ability. He thinks some of his contemporaries could have broken the league if they had just picked up a dumbbell.

Win
May 18, 2020
#7085
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Weight training helped my shooting touch because it made the game easier

I got serious about weight training, probably my second year at Tech... You're looking around, and weight training wasn't huge then. You know, it's a myth out there about weight training. Don't lift, you're going to throw your shot out. What I would always do was lift before practice. So when you go out there and shoot, you get your touchback. And believe it or not, when you had me, when I added weight training, my shot and everything was easier for me because I was strong.

Modern NBA training validates Malone's approach; strength is now considered essential for all players.

He didn't hold back on the state of the modern game either. Whether it is analytics or stars sitting out for no reason, he has zero time for the "load management" era of the NBA.

Void
May 18, 2020
#7087
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Comparing the physicality of the modern NBA to the 90s is absolute nonsense

Stop the nonsense. Don't compare what's happening now to back then. What are you talking about? ... analytics right now. That's all they talk about. Analytics. Sprinkle some analytics in there. But all this, hold on. You know, my hat not getting hot. I'm just I almost got a migraine just then thinking about players resting.

Classic old-school vs. new-school debate. Physicality rules and enforcement have objectively changed.

Who’s Back and the Mount Rushmore of Grit

Sports are officially back with NASCAR and the Bundesliga, though Big Cat warned fans that he isn't going to be "grateful" for long.

Void
May 18, 2020
#7079
Big CatBig Cat

The 1998 Bulls definitely would have won a 7th championship if they had stayed together

the ending obviously broke my heart because it's like they definitely would have won a seventh in my mind. That was the lockout year, so they would have had a lot of – they would have had a lot of rest. They wouldn't have had to start for a long time... If they had brought it back for another year, it would be tough to think that anyone would have beaten them.

This is an unprovable historical hypothetical.

PFT declared it short season, which carries a very specific set of dietary restrictions regarding warm liquids.

Void
May 18, 2020·Who's Back
#7081
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm wearing shorts exclusively until Labor Day and will not wear pants again this summer

I packed up all my shit this weekend. I put all my sweatpants on the highest shelf where I can't reach them... I'm done with pants for the summertime. I think from this point on, from now until Labor Day, I'm going shorts only.

Personal fashion commitment by PFT Commenter to only wear shorts until Labor Day 2020. The outcome is unverifiable.

Since this would have been the start of Grit Week in a normal world, the guys took a trip down memory lane for a Mount Rushmore of Grit Week moments. From the Nut Tap Milk Mile in Indy to drinking milk with Jim Harbaugh and recording a rap song with Sunny Digital in Atlanta, the nostalgia was at an all-time high.

To wrap things up, Billy Football gave a lecture on the history of the Tampa 2 defense. He even managed to take a stray shot at a certain Bills quarterback's processing speed while explaining the defensive scheme.

Loss
May 18, 2020·Drunk Ideas
#7091
Big CatBig Cat

We should fix the ozone layer by spraying ozone from a giant aerosol can in space like Flex Seal

just put ozone in an aerosol can and spray it up into the sky. I'm pretty sure I solved that. And no one's done it. Like, why not? ... We'll put someone up in a fucking spaceship with a huge aerosol can, and they just spray it on, like Flex Seal for the ozone.

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Ozone at ground level is a pollutant; the atmospheric chemistry required to 'patch' the ozone layer is far more complex than a spray can.

Stay out of Billy’s DMs if you’re a hater, he is not in his head.

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Win
May 18, 2020
#7078
Big CatBig Cat

Game 6 of the 1998 NBA Finals will forever be the most-watched NBA game of all time

That game six of the 98 finals with the shot and MJ finishing his career with the Bulls, that will forever be the most watched NBA game of all time. 35.89 million people were watching that game concurrently... It's going to keep getting more and more fractured. That will be the most watched NBA game of all time.

As of 2024, this remains correct. No game has surpassed the 35.9 million viewers for the 1998 finale.
Void
May 18, 2020·Who's Back
#7080
Big CatBig Cat

Complaining is the most authentic part of sports fandom, and appreciation is for when they're gone

When sports come back. I'm going to revert right back to my sports fandom instantly. I will complain about everything instantly. That's what sports fans do. That's when you know it's back, when we can complain. So don't give me this like, hey, man, just appreciate that it's back. No, no, no, no. I'm going to complain. That's what sports fans do.

Subjective view on the nature of fandom.
Void
May 18, 2020·Who's Back
#7082
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You cannot eat soup while wearing shorts; it's a fundamental rule

It's either short season or it's soup season. I thought about ordering soup yesterday, and I was like, it's a little too hot out. I'm wearing shorts. There's no overlap there. You can't eat soup while wearing shorts. You just can't. It doesn't go together. You can eat a popsicle.

Purely a matter of idiosyncratic personal preference.
Loss
May 18, 2020·Who's Back
#7083
Big CatBig Cat

Queso is technically a soup because it's a liquid served in a bowl

I think queso's the soup... You use like chips, which are basically spoons. They're edible spoons. Yeah, it's bread. It's like the bread that comes with soup. I think queso's the soup.

Culinary definitions usually classify queso as a dip or sauce, not a soup.
Void
May 18, 2020
#20563
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

I already talked about the push-off — let's talk about a woman or the Keystone pipeline

No, I done said all of that already. Let's talk about something else. What are you going to talk about? A woman or the Keystone pipeline. What do y'all think about that?

PFT had no opinion on the Keystone pipeline. The question was never discussed.
Loss
May 18, 2020
#20565
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

What's the shades on inside for? I can't say what that makes me think

What's the shades on inside for? It make me think, you know what it make me think. I can't say what it make me think.

PFT wears sunglasses because he is PFT Commenter. He has worn them in every public appearance since 2014.
Void
May 18, 2020
#7084
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

The US Postal Service should not deliver mail on Sundays; let the workers be with their families

why in the hell do the U.S. Postal Service deliver on Sunday anyway. Last time I checked, they broke as hell. So if anybody out there wants to know, I'm sending this to the U.S. Post Service. Please, our dear government, let the workers spend time with their family on Sunday... The U.S. Postal Service should not be delivered on Sunday anyway.

This is a policy opinion.
Void
May 18, 2020
#20564
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

You guys are too uptight for me — you need to relax

You might need to relax a little bit. You guys are too uptight for me.

He said this to the hosts of a show called Pardon My Take, who were shirtless and drinking Bud Light Seltzers.
Void
May 18, 2020
#7086
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

The NBA would have been forced to change the rules if Shaq or Charles Barkley had taken weight lifting seriously

Can you imagine if Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal would have took weight training serious? With Shaquille, they would have changed the rules. He was already – you know, you're talking about country strong? Him. But Charles Barkley, for what he could do, can you imagine if he would have took weight training serious? I don't ever – I could be wrong. I don't think Charles left a weight in his life.

Subjective hypothetical, but based on the physical dominance Shaq already displayed.
Void
May 18, 2020
#7088
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

If an NBA player needs to rest for 'load management', they should do it at home, not on the road

let's make a rule right now... if you're going to rest, rest at home in front of your season ticket holder... The emphasis have to be or should be back on the fans and less of the athlete because we're going to do what we do.

This is a proposed solution to a league-wide issue.
Win
May 18, 2020
#20567
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

I have an African gray parrot named Lisa and she was about to start talking during this interview

I have an African gray named Lisa. And if you're not careful with, she's going to say something. My son, KJ, just moved her over there because she's about to start talking.

The parrot was removed before she could speak on the record.
Void
May 18, 2020
#20566
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Coach Sloan's pick-and-roll instruction: 'slap dicks'

As my Coach Sloan would say, get some fucking meat on the guy, would you? Slap dicks. That's what Coach Sloan used to say.

Jerry Sloan passed away three weeks after this interview. The phrase 'slap dicks' has not been corroborated by other Jazz players.
Win
May 18, 2020
#29709
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

The Dream Team was so good we had to write down the names of the people whose asses we kicked so we didn't kick the same ass twice

we realized not being arrogant or cocky was we got 12 other baddest son of a bitch on the planet playing this game, but we happen to be teammates. We're here to kick ass, take names, and the asses that we kick, we wrote a name down so we didn't kick that same ass twice.

The Dream Team famously won gold with an average margin of 44 points per game.
Void
May 18, 2020
#20571
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Competitive fire is like that old pimple on your ass that you can't get

You know that old pimple on your ass that you can't get but it's just right under the surface? That's our fuse bird. We're just right there.

This is the only time an NBA Hall of Famer has compared elite competitive drive to a subcutaneous anal pimple.
Void
May 18, 2020
#7089
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Chris Webber, Derek Coleman, and Charles Barkley were all more talented than me, but I outworked them

I'm going to tell you three guys that have more talent than Karl Malone. Chris Webber, Derek Coleman, Charles Barkley. More talent. More talent. But they did not outwork me. I will never use the word he was better than me. More talented is different, right? I look and say, I can't do his position and he can't do mine... More talent? Yes. Worked harder? No.

Subjective self-assessment of his peers.
Win
May 18, 2020
#20569
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

I'm a blue-blooded American — I don't have to do a documentary if I don't want to

Because I'm a blue-blooded American, and I say I don't want to do it, David, I don't have to do it.

Karl Malone was not legally compelled to participate in a documentary. He also called Big Cat 'David,' which is not his name.
Loss
May 18, 2020
#20570
Karl MaloneKarl Malone

Nobody is lining up to learn about Karl Malone — go watch Tiger King or some shit

I don't think there's nobody lining up out there wanting to know about Carl Malone, so why boring with that? Let's watch the Tiger King or some shit like that.

Karl Malone is the second-leading scorer in NBA history. People were listening to this interview at that exact moment.
Loss
May 18, 2020·Drunk Ideas
#7090
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The water cup from beer pong is the world's most powerful disinfectant and can help stop the virus

the most powerful disinfectant thing known to man, the water cup in beer pong. So we've had the solution in front of us our whole lives... it's scientifically proven that if you fill a red solo cup up two-thirds of the way with room temperature water and then get everybody in the party to dip their fingers in it over the course of the night, no one's getting sick. If that ball hits the ground, you dip it in the water cup, you're good to go.

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A beer pong water cup is notoriously unhygienic and does not act as a disinfectant.
Void
May 18, 2020
#29710
Billy FootballBilly Football

I would run a Mike Leach air raid offense and feed the quarterback his reads before the play so he doesn't have to think

I would definitely run an insane air attack offense. You know, more of like Mike Leach air raid... where, you know, you get a guy with a strong arm and just really make it basic for him to go through his reads and maybe even feed him his read before the play's even called so he doesn't have to think.

This is Billy's personal coaching theory.
Loss
Billy FootballBilly Football

Josh Allen has a rocket arm but he doesn't have the 'rocket science' brain to grasp complex offenses

Let's take a guy with a super strong arm, very athletic, but might not, all the intangibles, but might not, you can't really measure what's in the brain as of yet. Josh Allen. Careful. Billy. He has a very high IQ. Careful, my friend. You can have a rocket arm, but you might have a rocket arm, but you might not have rocket science. If you want to fly a rocket, you have to be smart.

Josh Allen became an MVP-caliber quarterback immediately following this, proving he could master an elite NFL offense.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Swag Kelly would have three Super Bowls by now if he had a coach talking in his headset 24/7

Swag Kelly, essentially. Like, if you put Peyton Manning's brain into Swag Kelly's body. I mean, we should have Swag Kelly to have someone talking in his brain 24-7 because he would probably have three Super Bowls right now. Just be like... Don't go into the house, Swag Kelly. Don't go into the house. Don't go back to the bar with an AK-47. Just don't.

Chad Kelly's career was derailed by off-field issues, making this a funny but ultimately unprovable 'what-if'.

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