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"The Last Dance" Review, NFL Draft With Daniel Jeremiah + Mt Flushmore Of Toppings

Monday, April 20, 202020 takes

The Last Dance is finally here and we review the first 2 episodes. Jerry Krause is America's new villain and the MJ clips were incredible. (-) Who's back of the week including Coach Duggs and beach bods. (-) NFL Draft preview with NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah, why is Tua slipping? What position is deepest, what war rooms look like, and what scouts get wrong in the NFL. (-) Segments include 2 take quakes, (-) Mt Flushmore of toppings, (-) and Deep Dive with Billy Football as he explains his Beserker Bunker that he built by himself. Plus he may now own a zoo? Kind of concerning (-)

The Last Dance Review, Daniel Jeremiah on NFL Draft & Mount Flushmore of Toppings

It finally happened. For the first time in what feels like a decade, we all sat down at the same time to watch something that wasn't a press conference about a virus. The Last Dance episodes one and two dropped, and the energy was electric. Big Cat and PFT were locked in on the early Jordan era, specifically the sheer villainy of Jerry Krause. It’s rare to see a front office figure successfully make himself the common enemy of the greatest player ever, the best coach ever, and the most underpaid superstar ever all at once.

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Apr 20, 2020
#14033
Big CatBig Cat

Jerry Krause deserves credit for the Bulls dynasty but his ego was a detriment

[Jerry] Krause deserved more credit than he got but wanted more credit than he deserved. So he's constantly stuck in that spot where he is like, 'I should be getting more credit.' And he probably, in a weird way, should, but he wanted so much credit that it then became a detriment and a galvanizing force for those Bulls teams.

Subjective assessment of Krause's legacy and management style.

While the documentary highlighted the dysfunction, it also reminded everyone why we obsessed over MJ. The competitive nature was psychopathic in the best way possible. Big Cat noted that while many players tried to replicate the Jordan aura, only one really came close in the years that followed.

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Apr 20, 2020
#24244
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant was the closest player to Michael Jordan in terms of his competitive mean streak

I think Kobe [Bryant] gets interviewed for this and... he was the closest thing to MJ after MJ in terms of that competitive mean streak. At all costs, like 'I will do anything it takes to do it.'

Subjective comparison of competitive drive between two all-time greats.

NFL Draft Prep with Daniel Jeremiah

With the draft just days away, Daniel Jeremiah joined the show to cut through the smoke. Between technical difficulties and his kids running around, DJ gave us the real board. The biggest mystery remains Tua Tagovailoa's sliding stock and those suspiciously low Wonderlic scores. PFT thinks there's an agenda afoot to help a team like the Dolphins or Redskins land a steal.

Win
Apr 20, 2020·Who's Back
#14035
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Leaked Wonderlic scores are a smokescreen designed to hurt Tua Tagovailoa's draft stock

They were also incorrect leaked Wonderlic scores all that which tells me it's smokescreen season for someone out there. Like someone wants the rest of the NFL to believe that Tua is dumb because they gave Tua a 13 in the first Wonderlic score. It's not true at all. That's not what he got.

Tua's actual score was reported as an 18 or 19 by most reliable sources, proving the '13' report was likely inaccurate or a rough draft leak.

DJ isn't buying the Herbert over Tua hype, even with the injury concerns. He made it clear that on tape, there is a massive gap between the Alabama star and the rest of the field, including the current options in Washington.

Win
Apr 20, 2020
#24247
Daniel JeremiahDaniel Jeremiah

Tua Tagovailoa is a significantly better quarterback than Dwayne Haskins or Kyle Allen

I think if [Tua Tagovailoa] was totally healthy, no concerns, I would be standing on the soapbox and just take him. Like, he's much better than Dwayne Haskins. He's much better than Kyle Allen. Just take Tua.

Tua has had a successful career as a franchise starter, whereas Haskins struggled and was released by Washington, and Allen remained a journeyman backup.
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Apr 20, 2020
#24246
Daniel JeremiahDaniel Jeremiah

Tua Tagovailoa is a much better player than Justin Herbert

I have [Tua Tagovailoa] as a much better player than [Justin] Herbert... when you start hearing those things that it's kind of up in the air, I'm like, okay, well, maybe the health thing... but I don't think it's close.

While both are successful starters, Justin Herbert won Offensive Rookie of the Year and is generally regarded as having the higher ceiling and better statistical production than Tua.

As for the rest of the first round, the guys looked at the landing spots for the project quarterbacks. DJ has a specific vision for where Jordan Love should end up if he wants to maximize his massive ceiling.

Win
Apr 20, 2020
#24248
Daniel JeremiahDaniel Jeremiah

Jordan Love should sit behind a veteran like Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees for a few years

If you're going to script it, it's [Jordan Love] goes to Green Bay, sit behind [Aaron] Rogers. Go to New Orleans, sit behind Drew Brees. Like, those are good offensive coaches and they have time to develop there. That's why it makes some sense for him.

This exact scenario played out; Love was drafted by the Packers and sat behind Rodgers for three years, which many credit for his eventual success.

Before letting him go, DJ gave us his "reputation" pick. If this guy fails in the NFL, DJ is ready to take a pay cut.

Win
Apr 20, 2020
#24249
Daniel JeremiahDaniel Jeremiah

I would stake my reputation on Kenneth Murray being a successful NFL player

I'll give you one that I would take a pay cut for... linebacker Kenneth Murray from Oklahoma is just going to be a really, really good player. His wiring and intelligence, competitiveness, all that stuff—off the charts. He's just got too many things lined up for him not to be successful.

Murray was a first-round pick and has been a consistent starter in the NFL, though he hasn't reached elite All-Pro status. Jeremiah's prediction of him being 'really, really good' is generally correct.

Who’s Back & Take Quake

Who's Back featured a heavy dose of draft anxiety. PFT is officially swaying back toward the home-grown talent for the Redskins, mostly because he’s heard some terrifying news about just how big Chase Young might actually get.

Win
Apr 20, 2020·Who's Back
#24245
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am officially back on the Redskins drafting Chase Young over Tua Tagovailoa

I'm back on Chase Young because I saw a report on Friday that he is actually like LeBron—his parents didn't stop growing until they were like 28 years old and so he's like 6'5" right now. There's a good chance that he could end up being like 6'8" or 6'9"... I'd be happy with either one right now, but I'm officially back on Chase Young.

The Redskins selected Chase Young with the second overall pick in the 2020 NFL Draft.

In a special 4/20 edition of Take Quake, the guys looked at some of the most bizarre sports takes of the week. PFT defended the honor of baseball players who just want to spit in peace, while Big Cat found a way to spin Jim Harbaugh’s lack of success against Ohio State into a moral victory.

Loss
Apr 20, 2020·Take Quake
#14039
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Harbaugh dominates the Ohio State rivalry if judged on values instead of scoreboards

I love that Jim Harbaugh has gotten his dick kicked in by Ohio State year in and year out. But if we're only judging on the values imparted to those he leads, he has dominated this rivalry. Michigan fans... are definitely going to count this as a national championship, hang the banner.

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Harbaugh eventually started winning on the field, winning three straight games against Ohio State (2021-2023) and a National Championship, rendering the 'moral victory' spin obsolete.

Mount Flushmore of Toppings

The segment that almost broke the show. Mount Flushmore of Toppings was a bloodbath of bad food opinions and "infant palates." Hank, true to form, revealed that he basically hates anything that adds flavor to food, while PFT started a one-man war against the anti-anchovy propaganda machine.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Anchovies are actually delicious and only hated because of Ninja Turtles propaganda

Anchovies are not that bad. They only get a bad rap because of cartoons. You were told from a young age [by] the Ninja Turtles... That's actually not at all what anchovies are. They are delicious. They just taste like salt... There's been a tremendous propaganda effort against anchovies and sardines for most of my adult life.

Taste is subjective, but anchovies remain one of the least popular pizza toppings in the U.S.
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HankHank

Ketchup is a disgusting mask for people with bad taste

Ketchup period. Ketchup is disgusting. Anyone who jumps—it's a mask. It's the same as buffalo sauce. If you need to have ketchup—like people that eat pizza but I need to have ketchup... it's just a masquerade. People that eat ketchup get addicted to it.

Subjective food opinion, though highly controversial.

Big Cat took aim at the hipster staples and the toppings that ruin the structural integrity of a good meal. Whether it’s fruit on ice cream or seafood on pizza, the vitriol was flowing.

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Big CatBig Cat

Gummy bears are a terrible ice cream topping because they get rock hard

Gummy bears on ice cream... disgusting. They get so hard when you go to like frozen yogurt bars. The consistency of a gummy bear is completely ruined when it's put on ice cream and the flavors never match up.

Subjective opinion on food toppings.
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Big CatBig Cat

Shrimp is a disgusting pizza topping

Shrimp on pizza is disgusting... The texture of shrimp on pizza is very disgusting. It's like the cheese and the shrimp together just don't work. Cheese and shrimp? I wouldn't have cheese and shrimp.

Subjective opinion on food toppings.

To wrap up the show, Billy Football took us on a tour of his "Berserker Bunker." It’s part dorm room, part zoo, and part apocalypse shelter. Billy has been busy collecting kittens, gas masks, and axes while formulating a very specific list of dinosaurs he respects.

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Billy FootballBilly Football

The T-Rex is an absolute fraud of a dinosaur

T-Rex is an absolute fraud. We got Giganotosaurus, that's like the alpha of all the roars. It's just basically T-Rex with functional arms but like four times as big. Looks like a dragon.

While Giganotosaurus was slightly larger, T-Rex had a significantly stronger bite force. Calling it a 'fraud' is a characteristic Billy Football exaggeration.

If the world ends tomorrow, at least we know Billy will be safe in his basement with a sledgehammer and a bunch of cats named after Tiger King characters.

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More Takes

Loss
Apr 20, 2020·Take Quake
#14037
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Baseball should not outlaw spitting due to coronavirus concerns

Spitting needs to stay. It's the only place in America where a guy could just go outside and spit non-stop for like four hours and nobody says shit to him... isn't it better to be spitting all your germs out? If you have a handgun and you're constantly firing off rounds into the ground you're way less likely to accidentally shoot somebody. So we should actually be encouraging more spitting.

MLB did actually implement a ban on spitting (sunflower seeds/tobacco) in 2020 as part of health protocols, though it was loosely enforced.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Raw onions on a burger are a lazy topping that overpowers everything else

I'm going to go with raw onion. Just raw onion on a burger. It doesn't matter if it's red or if it's white onion—it can overpower the entire rest of the day. It's significant... it's a sign of a shitty sports bar burger.

Subjective opinion on food toppings.
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Big CatBig Cat

Artichokes are a disgusting pizza topping

Artichokes are disgusting... Artichokes on pizza is disgusting. As soon as you start doing dips, because every dip when you're like, 'Oh yeah, the spinach artichoke dip is good'—it's like probably a shitload of butter or cheese that makes it good.

Subjective opinion on food toppings.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Alfalfa sprouts on a sandwich are like flossing with disgusting pew hair

I'm going to go with alfalfa sprouts. Sprouts in general on a sandwich. It's like you're flossing with pew... jolly green giant. Really, really disgusting stuff.

Subjective opinion on food toppings.
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Big CatBig Cat

Animal style fries at In-N-Out are wildly overrated

Animal style sauce on fries at In-N-Out. I think it's wildly overrated. I really do. Animal sauce on the burger... that adds something. Animal sauce on fries just becomes disgusting and you're like what are we doing eating a bunch of soggy fries? It's a cool hipster thing to do.

Subjective culinary opinion, though frequently debated in regional burger discourse.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Heinz is the perfect ketchup and house-made versions are always inferior

I'm going to go with homemade ketchup or house-made ketchup. If you're at a restaurant and they have like a burger or fries and you ask for ketchup and they make it themselves—I just can't stop thinking all I ever want is Heinz. Heinz will never be topped... I would rather die on my feet than die also on my knees eating inferior ketchup.

Subjective opinion on condiment preferences.

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