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Take Slip·Feb 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0220-13507
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Peyton Manning's success with multiple coaches gives him a valid argument over Tom Brady

Brady has had the luxury of being with, and I think this is not debatable, the greatest coach in the history of football... I know what Peyton Manning is away from the Colts or Tony Dungy. He's been to a Super Bowl with four different head coaches. He's won a Super Bowl with two different head coaches.

This is a subjective historical debate, though Brady later winning a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers (a second coach/system) largely neutralized this specific argument.
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Take Slip·Feb 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0220-20161
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Flacco had the greatest playoff run I've ever seen on the way to Super Bowl 47, and his hair is elite

His hair is elite. Not as elite as yours, but his hair is elite. [Joe Flacco] had the greatest run I've ever seen on the way to Super Bowl 47.

Flacco's 2012 playoff run (11 TDs, 0 INTs, 117.2 passer rating) is genuinely regarded as one of the best ever. 'Greatest ever' is subjective but defensible.
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Take Slip·Feb 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0220-13508
Trey WingoTrey Wingo

Wins and losses should not be considered a quarterback stat

I don't think wins and losses are a quarterback stat. I don't believe in that... Teams win games. Teams win championships. It's not Tom [Brady]. It's not Malcolm [Butler]. The Patriots won that game.

This is an ongoing philosophical debate in sports analytics and media.
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Take Slip·Feb 20, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0220-13514
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Dunk Contest is boring because there are a finite amount of body positions possible

It's not like the dunks aren't super impressive. It's just that we've seen every dunk. It's like watching porn. There's a finite amount of body positions that the human form can get into. Eventually, you just get bored with it.

This is a subjective opinion on entertainment fatigue.
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#PMT-2017-0220-13513
Big CatBig Cat

Carmelo Anthony's legacy is choosing the most money over winning championships

Thoughts and prayers to the man [Carmelo Anthony] who has taken every single dollar at every turn in his career instead of maybe trying to win a championship... He took the most amount of money to stay in the dumpster fire that is New York. That's kind of your situation, Melo.

This is a subjective interpretation of Anthony's career choices and legacy.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5916
Big CatBig Cat

Baseball players' stupidity has become a charming part of the sport

I love how baseball players, it's become charming how stupid they are. I mean, it's just really, they're just a bunch of stupid people and everyone says, 'Oh, isn't this so funny?'

This is an inherently subjective opinion about the intelligence and charm of professional baseball players.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5919
Big CatBig Cat

Russia would have won the Cold War if they had beaten the U.S. in the 1980 Olympic hockey game

I have two. One is a historical one with the Russians, which they had to do over in 1980. They would have won the Cold War if they won that hockey game.

This is a humorous alternate-history take that cannot be verified.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5920
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant failed in his attempt to copy Michael Jordan's entire career

Do you ever sit back and you are like, damn, Kobe Bryant tried to copy everything Michael Jordan did and he totally failed?

While Kobe modeled his game after Jordan, 'totally failed' is a subjective and highly debatable assessment of a five-time champion.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5921
Ice CubeIce Cube

Magic Johnson is the greatest basketball player and the number one Laker of all time

Magic Johnson. Without a doubt. He's the number one basketball... him and Larry Bird, they are the NBA. Magic and Bird put NBA in prime time.

The GOAT debate and franchise rankings are subjective opinions.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5922
Ice CubeIce Cube

The NFL should build stadiums for teams so they don't have to move

They should stay. The NFL should build them a stadium. I mean, damn, the NFL making all this money, man. Build your teams a stadium so they don't have to move. Try that. They're making billions and they want taxpayers to pay for it.

This is a policy/business opinion regarding how professional sports should operate.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5923
Ice CubeIce Cube

The Chargers and Clippers are garbage and Los Angeles doesn't want them

San Diego, keep your teams, man. Keep your garbage. First you sent us the Clippers. Now we got the Chargers. You know what I mean? It sucks, man. Who want them?

The sentiment regarding the Chargers' lack of home-field advantage in L.A. has been widely documented since their move.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2017
#PMT-2017-0217-5924
Mr. PortnoyMr. Portnoy

Customer service lines intentionally disconnect you when transferring to customer relations

Then when you start to talk about why you're calling, you know what happens? They'll say, oh, we're in the sales department. We're going to transfer you over to Customer relations, and then what do you think happens? You get disconnected. I've lived through this.

This is a common customer grievance and observation about corporate phone systems.
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#PMT-2017-0217-5926
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Autoplay videos are good because they remind you to close old browser tabs

I keep tabs open, about eight tabs at a time, and most of the tabs are open for about six hours. If you have an autoplay video that starts after three hours of me being on that website—it reminds me to close out the tab.

This is a personal lifestyle/productivity take that is subjective to the user.
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#PMT-2017-0217-5925
Big CatBig Cat

Donald Trump not filling out a March Madness bracket is the most treasonous thing a person could do

Trump has said that he's not filling out a bracket for March Madness. Not filling out a bracket is probably the most treasonous thing you could do. I agree. I think that this could be what flips some Republicans.

This is a satirical take using 'treason' in a comedic, non-legal sense.
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Take Slip·Feb 15, 2017
#PMT-2017-0215-16898
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Luke Walton was a better coach for the Golden State Warriors than Steve Kerr

I would actually say [the Warriors are] Luke Walton's team. People forget he was their coach in the first half last year. They were a lot better then.

While Walton did have a historic start as interim coach, Steve Kerr is widely recognized as the architect of the dynasty. This is a satirical take on coaching credit.
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Take Slip·Feb 15, 2017·Media
#PMT-2017-0215-16909
Big CatBig Cat

Paul Tagliabue is the smartest person in the world for making Roger Goodell his concussion scapegoat

Paul Tagliabue basically said, I've known about concussions forever, but I kind of don't want to be asked about this anymore. So here, Roger Goodell, you look stupid enough to take this job and have everyone come at you and hate you. And that's exactly what happened. So he's actually the smartest person in the world.

While Tagliabue did face criticism for his handling of concussions, Roger Goodell became the public face of the league's struggle with the issue. The 'smartest person' claim is subjective but has a logical basis in the perception of Goodell's role.
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Take Slip·Feb 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0213-15781
Mike GolicMike Golic

I would beat Mike Greenberg in tennis if my life was on the line

If my life was depending on it, I would practice enough and do enough to beat him because I knew my life was on it. [Greeny] can't even play his one little nerd sport better than [me]. He's probably better than me at all, but in that given situation, not only would I try and beat him, the best way to do it would be try and somehow hurt him during the match so he couldn't finish.

This is a purely hypothetical and subjective scenario between the two radio partners.
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#PMT-2017-0213-15784
Big CatBig Cat

Rajon Rondo passes up easy layups specifically to hunt for assists

You know what Rondo does that's so fucking annoying? Everything, but he also loves, loves, loves to pass up super easy layups just to get assists. He's the worst with that. He did that today when the Bulls got smoked by the Wolves. He was ready to go for a layup, and then he passed it for a three-pointer. Dude, just fucking shoot the layup. Stop trying to get assists.

This was a widely observed 'Rondo-ism' noted by many analysts and fans during his tenure with several teams.
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Take Slip·Feb 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0213-15785
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The UConn women's basketball winning streak is bad for the sport

Is UConn women's basketball bad for the sport? Because they're about to get 100 wins in a row. Love it. So we're getting that conversation back. Can they beat Alabama? Going right back into the swing of things in sports.

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The debate about parity in women's basketball remained a central talking point for years, though the sport's growth suggests the dominance didn't 'harm' it.
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Take Slip·Feb 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0210-647
Big CatBig Cat

James Dolan planted security to get Charles Oakley banned from MSG

I think it's James Dolan continues to disrespect the Garden by putting out awful teams and not caring. And I think, stay woke, that was all a plant to get him [Oakley] banned from the Garden forever because if you noticed, it was security guards all around him. He got mad because I think that's just Charles Oakley's resting heartbeat.

While Dolan did ban Oakley, there's no evidence it was a premeditated 'plant' rather than a spontaneous confrontation, though Dolan's management of the situation was widely criticized.
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Take Slip·Feb 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0210-648
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Disrespecting Madison Square Garden should be a hate crime

If you disrespect the Garden, it should be a hate crime. There are certain places that, as an American, it's like Madison Square Garden, Lambeau Field, the gym where they filmed Hoosiers. If you disrespect those places, it's a hate crime.

This is a satirical opinion and cannot be factually correct.
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Take Slip·Feb 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0210-649
Chris LongChris Long

Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time

I do think he's the greatest coach of all time. And, you know, any curve ball you get on Super Bowl Sunday, you might think it's, the hill's too steep, but, you know, guys were just conditioned to be able to go out there, hit the curve ball, keep rolling.

While subjective, Belichick is widely considered the greatest or one of the greatest coaches in NFL history.
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Take Slip·Feb 10, 2017
#PMT-2017-0210-651
Chris LongChris Long

Tom Brady has definitely heard the Pardon My Take podcast

Tom's definitely heard you guys. Statistically, I mean, statistically speaking, there's not that many people who haven't. So Hank, if you're listening, [Tom] knows exactly who you are.

While Brady has never explicitly confirmed being a regular listener, he has acknowledged Barstool and the show's existence in various media interactions over the years.
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#PMT-2017-0210-655
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Tirico replacing Bob Costas is a win for white media members

NBC announced that Bob Costas is handing over Olympic duty to Mike Tirico. And if you remember, Mike Tirico is a white guy, as he said. ... As a white guy, I'm happy that Bob Costas is passing off the Olympic coverage to another white guy. It's good to see the white guys keep their jobs in the media business.

This is a satirical commentary on Tirico's public statements regarding his race and Bob Costas's retirement.
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Take Slip·Feb 8, 2017·PR 101
#PMT-2017-0208-19547
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mark Wahlberg used his sick kid as an excuse to leave the Super Bowl early

That is an unbelievable story, the fact that he got exposed for leaving early and then threw his kid out there. ... The blame aspect is really strong in that.

While never proven to be a lie, the timing was incredibly suspicious and is a lasting piece of Wahlberg/Patriots fan lore.
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Take Slip·Feb 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0206-11568
Big CatBig Cat

Kyle Shanahan was too focused on his new head coaching job with the 49ers during the Super Bowl

Kyle Shanahan, was he too focused on his new job? Absolutely. Yes. His mind was on West Coast time. No doubt.

While subjective, this became a major talking point in the aftermath of the 28-3 collapse.
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#PMT-2017-0206-11569
Big CatBig Cat

Roger Goodell is back after taking his medicine from Patriots fans

The boos that were rained down on Roger Goodell... He stood up there. He overdosed on his medicine. I think he's back. I think it's now fair's fair.

Goodell continued to be a lightning rod for controversy, but the specific Deflategate tension peaked at this trophy presentation.
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Take Slip·Feb 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0206-11570
Jim RomeJim Rome

David Stern was a worse commissioner than Roger Goodell

Which commissioner do you think has done a worse job, Roger Goodell or David Stern when he got into that beef with you? Yeah, that's going to be a tough call, David Stern. Yeah. Stern was not happy with me that day... If you're asking me which one's worse, it's Stern.

This is an inherently subjective comparison of two highly successful but controversial commissioners.
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Take Slip·Feb 6, 2017
#PMT-2017-0206-11572
Jim RomeJim Rome

Michael Jordan is better than LeBron James because he has the clutch gene

LeBron is a fraud. He's a hot fraud. Michael Jordan's all that. He's an all that guy. Get your 32, 11, 6, bank it. More importantly, clutch gene.

This is the eternal NBA GOAT debate and cannot be definitively proven.
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#PMT-2017-0206-11573
Big CatBig Cat

Lady Gaga's Super Bowl halftime performance was stellar

Lady Gaga's halftime performance, which was stellar, by the way. Anyone who hated that, get out of my face. Stop listening to this show.

Subjective opinion on an entertainment performance.
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#PMT-2017-0206-11576
Big CatBig Cat

Mark Wahlberg leaving the Super Bowl early was a bad move

Marky Mark, Miami Heat fan slash New England Patriot fan. Left in, what, like 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter? Yeah, he left really early... how about you respect your favorite player, I assume, Tom Brady, and his ability to come back in a game. That's a bad look... that was a fucked up move for you to leave.

Wahlberg was widely mocked for leaving early. He later claimed he left because his son was feeling sick.
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Take Slip·Feb 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0203-5602
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell is being negligent by not knowing Barstool since they've been 'threatening his life'

[Roger Goodell] said he had never heard of Barstool Sports before. I believe him, yo. Which is bullshit. And as Dave and Hank mentioned, he's being negligent if he doesn't know who Barstool is because they were the ones that have been threatening his life. Allegedly. Through his own ignorance, he's actually putting the entire NFL in harm's way by not making sure that he takes all the precautions to stay alive.

The claim is satirical and refers to the 'alleged' threats as part of a comedy bit; it's not a factual claim of a murder plot.
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Take Slip·Feb 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0203-5604
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons take some luster off the Super Bowl because they haven't won anything yet

It feels, maybe it's the Falcons, and the Falcons forever will be kind of a fake team, and I don't mean that, no offense to Falcons fans, but that's just, they have to win something, right? No, but they have to win something to be, that's just how it works, right? So the Falcons definitely take a little luster off the Super Bowl.

This is a subjective opinion on the 'feel' of the game.
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Take Slip·Feb 3, 2017
#PMT-2017-0203-5610
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

The Super Bowl is played at a speed so fast it's hard to even remember individual plays

It is so fast that I could probably tell you in 14 years, I could tell you every game that I played in from a rookie to a third-year player... and I can barely recall plays from the Super Bowl. It's that fast. It's wait, wait, wait. ... and then all of a sudden, you're on the field, and it's like the final drive.

This is a first-hand account of a player's experience, which is subjective but authentic.
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#PMT-2017-0203-5612
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike Wilbon is actually a blogger because his job is the same as Barstool's

Has somebody explained to Mike Wilbon that his job is pretty literally our job? So he's a blogger, too. He doesn't even write columns anymore. You know what? Anybody that doesn't like bloggers, guess what? You're a blogger. I'm going to call you a blogger.

This is a satirical take on media definitions.
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#PMT-2017-0203-5613
Big CatBig Cat

Coach K took a leave of absence just to create 'adversity' as an excuse for Duke potentially failing

I figured it out. Duke was the favorite to win the national title. ... Coach K just added his own little adversity, so when he ultimately fails this season and doesn't coach them to a national title, he said, well, I dealt with a lot of outside things this year.

Duke did not win the national title in 2017 (they lost in the Round of 32 to South Carolina), but the surgery was real.
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#PMT-2017-0201-12070
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Vick's legacy is secure as one of the best quarterbacks ever

I'm just going to throw it out there. I think Michael Vick's legacy is secure. He's one of the best quarterbacks ever.

Vick's legacy remains a debate between his revolutionary play-style and his criminal history, but he is widely regarded as a transformational figure in NFL history.
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Take Slip·Feb 1, 2017
#PMT-2017-0201-12072
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

Aaron Rodgers will eventually jump to the 4th or 5th best quarterback ever

I actually, well, a year ago, I put Aaron Rodgers as number 10 right above Bart Starr. And so I have him as number 10. But Rodgers is 10 right now, and I think he's probably going to jump up to, like, 5 or 4.

Rodgers won two more MVPs after this take (2020, 2021), further cementing his top-tier status, though consensus rankings vary widely between 3 and 7.
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Take Slip·Feb 1, 2017
#PMT-2017-0201-12074
John ClaytonJohn Clayton

Kirk Cousins is comparable to Andy Dalton and Alex Smith as a quarterback

I think you'd have to have a good running game. I mean, you kind of look at Kurt as kind of, well, I mean, He and Andy Dalton, I think, are very similar. And you put him probably in the same vein as Alex Smith.

This has largely been the consensus on Cousins' career; highly productive but often viewed as just below the 'elite' winning tier.
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Take Slip·Feb 1, 2017·Null
#PMT-2017-0201-12078
Big CatBig Cat

Wisconsin is a perennial threat to win the national title

As everyone knows, Wisconsin's perennial threat to win the national title. So that's probably Nick Saban just trying to take out his number one rival. Take out Wisconsin. Wisconsin Badgers.

Wisconsin has been a consistent top-25 program but has not won a national title in the modern era or even made the CFP at the time of this take.
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#PMT-2017-0130-1685
Big CatBig Cat

Shaka Smart having an assistant hold a paint can to remind players to stay in the paint is a good move

You know, we make fun of a lot of things and we kind of have a good time on this podcast, but I actually buy this move. Full on. That is like a literal, you know, get into the paint while a guy's flashing a can of paint in your face. You remember to get in the paint.

The effectiveness of the paint can prop is subjective to the Texas team's performance, but it is a real coaching tactic he is endorsing.
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#PMT-2017-0130-1689
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Super Bowl babies are a myth because fans are too drunk and bloated to have sex after the game

Super Bowl has... I completely disagree. Super Bowl is the last day that you have sex because everyone eats. You eat a million pigs in a blanket. You drink beer. You sit on the couch. You fart. You're not having sex. Yeah, if you win, you're getting drunker. There's no chance you're having sex that night. So, yeah, I think Super Bowl babies might be myth.

While birth data is complex, many sociologists agree the 'Super Bowl baby' phenomenon is largely anecdotal or exaggerated by marketing.
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Take Slip·Jan 30, 2017
#PMT-2017-0130-1690
Stu FeinerStu Feiner

Major League Baseball is the easiest sport to win money on

I would say Major League Baseball is the easiest sport to win. No issue about it. Because, again, think about it. The longevity of the cycle of the season gives you the advantage. Like college and pro football are the two hardest.

This is a subjective claim based on personal gambling success and perceived variance in different sports.
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Take Slip·Jan 30, 2017
#PMT-2017-0130-1696
Stu FeinerStu Feiner

The only way to make money gambling is to bet one game a week and load up

You bet one game a week. Load up. That's the only way to make money gambling. You cannot make money gambling betting every single day. None, never, has never happened.

This is a subjective strategy; while focused betting can reduce exposure, many successful professional gamblers use volume-based models.
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Take Slip·Jan 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0127-15758
Jemele HillJemele Hill

Kentucky basketball fans wouldn't care if Charles Manson were their coach as long as he won titles

I was like, look, let's be real about what [John Calipari's] job is, is to win basketball games and compete for national titles. And I was like, given how the Kentucky fan base is so rabid, they wouldn't care if Charles Manson was their coach as long as he won a title.

This is a subjective assessment of fan psychology and a rhetorical hyperbole.
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Take Slip·Jan 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0127-15759
Big CatBig Cat

Waffle House is garbage

I think Waffle House is garbage. It's just people go there when they're drunk, and they're like, man, Waffle House is really good.

This is entirely a matter of personal taste.
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Take Slip·Jan 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0127-15760
Jemele HillJemele Hill

The movie Scarface is overrated

Another trash opinion, overrated movie. It wasn't a box office flop. It was. She doesn't like Scarface.

This is a subjective cinematic opinion.
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Take Slip·Jan 27, 2017
#PMT-2017-0127-15761
Michael SmithMichael Smith

Matt Ryan has been underappreciated for a long time

I do think Matt Ryan has been underappreciated. I thought this was a serious sports part of the podcast... No, I think Matt Ryan's underappreciated, has long been underappreciated. So I'm rooting for him because I want to see him get a bite of this apple.

Matt Ryan was the MVP of the 2016 season. Whether he is 'underappreciated' is subjective, but his statistics support him being an elite performer at the time.
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#PMT-2017-0127-15763
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell is gaslighting fans into thinking Thursday Night Football is a good product

Well, it's called gaslighting, Big Cat, and it's actually like a thing that works. So Goodell is gaslighting us, which is awesome. He's doing a really good job of it. He's saying, you all enjoyed watching Thursday Night Football. It was a great product. And then if he says enough, I'm like, holy shit. Thursday night football was awesome.

While Goodell publicly praised TNF, the public sentiment and ratings at the time often suggested the quality of games was lacking compared to Sunday/Monday slots.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2017
#PMT-2017-0125-11610
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James' subtweet is the most passive-aggressive thing he has ever done

The big story that we have waiting for the Super Bowl week to start is LeBron with the most passive-aggressive tweet I think I've ever seen... He said, I'm not mad or upset at management... I just feel we still need to improve in order to repeat, dot, dot, dot, if that's what we want to do. That is the most ridiculous subtweet that LeBron has ever, it's not even a subtweet, it's a direct tweet. He didn't add anyone, but he's adding the management.

The take is subjective, but LeBron's career is famously defined by such 'LeGM' moments and passive-aggressive social media use.
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