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Coach Jim McElwain, Remembering John Madden & Week 17 Picks

Wednesday, December 29, 202124 takes

We lost a legend on Tuesday. Remembering John Madden and his impact on the game of Football and our lives as Football Fans(-). The Arizona Bowl got cancelled, we're sad. Monday Night Football recap(-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne(-). Central Michigan Head Coach Jim McElwain joins the show to talk about football, coaching,and not fucking a shark(-). Guys on chicks and Week 17 picks to wrap up 2021(-).

Remembering John Madden, Coach Jim McElwain, and Week 17 Picks

A heavy week in the football world as we lost the ultimate legend. Big Cat and PFT started the show by paying their respects to John Madden, a man who didn't just coach and broadcast the game, but literally defined what it sounded like for generations of fans. Between the telestrator, the "BOOM," and the bus, Madden was the embodiment of football joy.

Void
Dec 29, 2021
#10976
Big CatBig Cat

John Madden is the number one football guy of all time

Today is Monday, December 29th, and we start with the passing of, we were saying this beforehand, probably the number one football guy of all time, John Madden.

While subjective, Madden's legacy as a coach, broadcaster, and video game icon makes this a widely accepted opinion in football circles.

They touched on his massive legacy across three different careers, but for a certain generation, the name Madden is inseparable from the console in the living room. Big Cat and PFT reminisced about the early days of the game, including those ridiculous player ratings and the infamous ambulance that would run over players on the field.

Void
Dec 29, 2021
#21911
Big CatBig Cat

Madden is the most important sports video game ever created

it's definitely the most important sports video game ever created. Except fuck the passing cone.

While subjective, Madden's cultural impact and sales figures make this a widely held view in gaming history.

While the NFL will surely have plenty of tributes, PFT thinks the league needs to go even further to honor the man who made everyone fall in love with the sport.

Loss
Dec 29, 2021
#10979
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Madden: The NFL should name a new award or the Super Bowl after John Madden

I don't think they should slap his name on something. I don't think that that's the proper homage to pay. They should name the Super Bowl after him. John Madden Super Bowl. They should name football after Madden.

The NFL did eventually rename the Thanksgiving games' 'Player of the Game' or similar tributes, but the Super Bowl remains the Super Bowl.

Arizona Bowl Woes and Monday Night Disaster

The guys had to address the elephant in the room: the Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl getting canceled. It’s a brutal blow for the players at Boise State and Central Michigan, and PFT has a theory that the caution we're seeing in college football right now is being dictated more by legal departments than medical ones.

Void
Dec 29, 2021
#10981
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

COVID protocols in college football are driven by fear of lawsuits, not just the CDC

We're so far behind what even the CDC is saying right now in college football, and I think the reason for that is because of the threat of lawsuits. There are a bunch of people out there, the people that run the bowl games... They're terrified of the fact that one person gets sick, and then they get sued for all that they're worth.

A matter of interpretation regarding legal and administrative motivations.

With the College Football Playoff looming, the focus shifts to how the remaining teams will handle the same issues. PFT is betting on Jim Harbaugh to take the most extreme measures possible to ensure Michigan makes it to the finish line.

Win
Dec 29, 2021
#10983
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jim Harbaugh will isolate his players to an extreme degree to ensure they play in the CFP

I guarantee you Jim Harbaugh is going to have his players isolated. And they're going to be in competition coffins where they get fed their meals just coming through straws through the door. Harbaugh is not going to – he's going to lock his players up in rooms and be like, you're not interacting with anybody.

Michigan did successfully play their CFP game without a COVID outbreak, though the 'coffins' were a joke.

Big Cat, meanwhile, is bracing for the inevitable when it comes to the actual results on the field.

Win
Dec 29, 2021
#10985
Big CatBig Cat

The CFP is on a collision course for a Bama-Georgia rematch

I've wavered. There's been times where I've been like, ooh, maybe Cincinnati will give Bama a game. I think we're just on a collision course for Bama-Georgia again.

Alabama beat Cincinnati and Georgia beat Michigan to meet in the National Championship.

Shifting to the NFL, the Monday Night Football game between the Saints and Dolphins was an absolute struggle session. Watching Ian Book try to survive against a relentless Dolphins defense was a tough watch, but it did provide some valuable perspective for everyone watching at home.

Win
Dec 29, 2021
#10990
Big CatBig Cat

Ian Book's MNF performance showed exactly how hard it is to play NFL quarterback

I'll say what Ian Book did, though. He gave us good perspective. How hard it is to play quarterback. Because Ian Book was a good college football quarterback, and it looked like he had never played quarterback. That's how hard it is to play in the NFL.

A widely observed phenomenon when elite college players struggle in the NFL.

Jim McElwain on Maction and Sharks

Central Michigan Head Coach Jim McElwain joined the show to talk about the Chips' season and his time coaching under the greats. Having worked for both Nick Saban and Jim Harbaugh, McElwain offered some great insight into what the "Process" actually looks like behind closed doors, noting that Saban isn't always the rigid robot he appears to be on the sidelines.

Void
Dec 29, 2021
#21916
Jim McElwainJim McElwain

Nick Saban is actually a lot more fun than he appears in the media

He's actually a lot more fun than maybe comes across. And there are no surprises. I think that's what was great working with him. You know, there was never a surprise. You knew exactly the plan and what was next.

This is a personal character assessment from someone who worked closely with him.

Coach McElwain also settled the score on the infamous shark photo that has haunted his Google search results for years, meeting the actual "shark guy" in a video with Caleb Pressley. Before letting him go, he also gave a shoutout to the loudest atmosphere in the FCS.

Void
Dec 29, 2021
#10994
Jim McElwainJim McElwain

Montana’s Washington-Grizzly Stadium is one of the loudest, toughest places to play

I think one of the most underrated places, that's a tough place to play is actually at the University of Montana in Missoula... that place it's 25,000 people every game and they are rabid and it is loud... that's as loud a place as you'll ever play.

Widely acknowledged by those familiar with FCS football.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Week 17 Picks

Hot Seat/Cool Throne featured a look at Josh Allen's incredible luck with the coin toss, which is currently breaking the brains of every math major in Buffalo.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Josh Allen is defying statistics by winning 13 out of 16 coin tosses

My hot seat is statistics and probability because Josh Allen has won 13 out of 16 coin tosses this season. That's wild... The probability of hitting nine straight is .1953. So Josh Allen is defying all the stats nerds.

The stats were widely reported during the 2021 season.

Big Cat also used his Cool Throne to defend Antonio Brown, suggesting that the media might be piling on with some of the more absurd stories about the wide receiver. Though, to be fair, the list of AB's antics is getting long enough to fill a novel.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Antonio Brown is being framed by the media

my cool throne is Antonio Brown... he is being framed by the media. I don't know if you guys saw, but someone compiled an entire list of things that he's done. I'll just read off some of it because it's crazy how much the media has made up stuff about Antonio Brown to try to get him to be seen as a bad guy.

Antonio Brown was not being framed; the incidents mentioned (speeding, legal issues, etc.) were documented and many were admitted to or resulted in consequences.

Finally, the guys locked in their Week 17 picks as the road trip to LA looms large. With the standings tighter than ever, the picks felt heavier this week. Almost everyone is riding with the Rams, which Big Cat thinks is a massive mistake for the betting public.

Win
Dec 29, 2021·Picks
#21918
Big CatBig Cat

If you don't bet the Ravens against the Rams this week, you're a moron

You would be a fucking moron if you're listening to this right now and you don't bet the Ravens. Five out of six of us having the same pick [Rams -3.5]... If you're listening to this right now and you don't bet the Ravens, you're a fucking moron.

The Rams beat the Ravens 20-19, but the Ravens covered the +3.5 point spread. Therefore, betting on the Ravens was the correct move.

If the Colts manage to pull off a Super Bowl run, Big Cat might be finishing the season with one less digit.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

I will cut off the tip of my pinky if the Colts win the Super Bowl

I've seen some people being like, you're not actually going to do it. First of all, it's the tip of my pinky. It's the nail up. Second of all, it's essentially like a tattoo... The Colts started 0-3 in 2021, and they won the Super Bowl. It will suck, but I will do it.

The Colts did not win the Super Bowl in 2021; they didn't even make the playoffs.

Hopefully, Big Ben’s final home game provides more highlights than a satchel-carrying Billy Football in 2022.

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Void
Dec 29, 2021
#10986
Big CatBig Cat

The Colts and Niners are the same team: great rosters, scary quarterbacks

I don't know who said it, but it was basically the Colts and the Niners are the same team. Their Spider-Man meme where it's like their roster is really good. They have a ton of really talented players. You just hold your breath that Carson Wentz or Jimmy G won't do something crazy.

Subjective comparison of team structures.
Void
Dec 29, 2021
#10988
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Drew Brees is selfish for not coming out of retirement to save the Saints' MNF game

Fuck Drew Brees for sending that smarmy-ass text back when they're like, please, Drew, can you please come back and play for us again? He's like, no, I'm out here golfing... Fuck Drew Brees. He should have done that. He's selfish for not coming back and making America experience the Ian Book game because it wasn't even entertaining bad.

Purely a subjective expression of frustration (and comedy) regarding Brees' retirement.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Minnesota Vikings might start Kyle Sloter this Sunday

I feel like we might be getting some [Kyle] Sloter this Sunday. All aboard the Sloterboat.

Kyle Sloter did not start the game; Sean Mannion was activated and started for the Vikings against the Packers.
Void
Billy FootballBilly Football

The Clemson team apparel for the Cheez-It Bowl looks like an orange prison jumpsuit

My hot seat is Dabo Swinney. For a promo in the Cheez-It Bowl, they're posing in front of the trophy... and the Clemson team apparel just looks like a prison jumpsuit. It's just an orange prison jumpsuit.

The resemblance to a prison jumpsuit is a matter of visual opinion.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Failing NFL teams should always flush the whole staff and front office out

The Jaguars, and this goes for the Giants as well, I do not understand teams that don't flush it all out. If your team is an abject failure, just... Flush the fucking thing out.

Subjective strategy for team management.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jerry Jones might fire Mike McCarthy before the end of the season, even if the Cowboys are still in the playoffs

Jerry Jones might fire Mike McCarthy before the end of the season, even if they're still in the playoffs. If the Jaguars tell Kellen Moore, like, we want to hire you right now to be your next head coach, Jerry Jones might be like, see you later, Mike. We're riding with Kellen from this point on.

McCarthy was not fired mid-season or during the playoffs; he remained the coach for the 2022 season.
Loss
Dec 29, 2021
#10995
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The planned downfield lateral will eventually change the game of football

The gospel of the planned downfield lateral becoming more prevalent in football... I think that a coach that can implement smart, planned out, almost rugby style pitches on certain plays... the coach that figures out how to do it safely is going to change the game of football offensively.

Laterals have not yet become a standardized part of offensive playbooks outside of desperation plays.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You should never send a meme to a person you are in a relationship with

I think it's more of a red flag that he's sending memes to you. You don't send memes to somebody that you're in a relationship with. You steal the memes and then you verbally tell them to them when you're out to dinner so you sound funny.

Subjective relationship advice.
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Big CatBig Cat

I absolutely think you should share funny memes and things you find on the internet with your partner

I absolutely think you share funny things you find on the internet with your partner. All day. It's just having a funny banter back and forth.

This is a lifestyle opinion regarding relationship dynamics.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Madden 2004 was the best video game of all time

But Madden 2004 was probably the best video game of all time.

Purely subjective assessment of video game quality.
Push
Dec 29, 2021·Picks
#10998
Billy FootballBilly Football

I'm going to get jacked and start dressing like an adult in 2022

I'm getting jacked again and starting to dress more like an adult... Look what I got for Christmas... It's a satchel. It's not a backpack. Adult steps.

Billy remained fairly consistent in his casual dress and fitness habits through 2022.

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