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Danny Kanell 11/28/16

Monday, November 28, 201617 takes

The guys are back from Thanksgiving break and ready to recap Week 12 of the NFL with the fastest 3 minutes. Football guy of the week in honor of Coach O's LSU hiring. The Tiger Woods who's back of the week. ESPN Host Danny Kanell joins the show to talk about chaos in College Football, why he wears a turtle neck on air, and his beef with the airline industry. Segments include PR 101 for Brian Kelly, People Forget That, Kings Stay Kings, Stay Woke, Mike Greenberg's dumb rules, and everyone's favorite new game "Is He Dead Yet?"

Danny Kanell on CFP Chaos, the War on Football, and Ed Orgeron

Big Cat and PFT are back from a four-day Thanksgiving bender of eating 10,000 calories and watching 15 hours of football a day. The guys spent the holiday contemplating the existential nature of existence and why their eyes hurt so much from staring at three screens simultaneously. While the holiday break was restful for some, Big Cat is still mourning the state of his Bears after Matt Barkley's debut.

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Big CatBig Cat

Matt Barkley is a terrible quarterback

Let's face it folks, Matt Charles Barkley, the round mound of intentional ground, is terrible. Just terrible. Terrible, terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible.

Barkley was 1-5 as a starter for the Bears in 2016 and threw twice as many interceptions as touchdowns, eventually becoming a career backup.

The landscape of the league is starting to settle, and it’s looking increasingly like we’re headed for a collision course between the usual suspects, even if one of those suspects feels a bit fraudulent.

Void
Nov 28, 2016
#8212
Big CatBig Cat

The Dallas Cowboys are the best team that sucks in the NFL

Dallas is still maybe the best team in the NFL, which is insane. They're the best team that sucks. In the NFL. They're the suckiest best teams, too.

The 2016 Cowboys finished 13-3 and were the #1 seed in the NFC, though they did lose their first playoff game to Green Bay.
Push
Nov 28, 2016
#8213
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Super Bowl will feature some combination of the Patriots, Cowboys, or Seahawks

And it sucks to say this, but it's going to be the Patriots and the Cowboys or the Seahawks. Slash Seahawks, yeah. So some combination of that, that's where we're going to be in Houston.

The Patriots did make and win Super Bowl LI, but the Cowboys and Seahawks were eliminated in the Divisional round by the Packers and Falcons.

Football Guy of the Week: Coach O

The biggest news of the weekend was LSU finally removing the interim tag from Ed Orgeron. Big Cat and PFT celebrated the move as a win for Football Guys everywhere, specifically citing the legendary binder Coach O brought into the meeting that supposedly blew the AD away. PFT is currently offering a $2,000 bounty for anyone who can leak the contents of that binder, which likely just consists of "Tell the Truth Monday" and "Competition Tuesday" written in crayon over 400 pages.

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Big CatBig Cat

Ed Orgeron is officially the greatest interim coach of all time

Is he officially the greatest interim coach of all time? His last head coaching stint at Ole Miss, where he went 10-25... he's won more games as an interim coach than a head coach.

At the time of the take, Orgeron was 6-2 at USC and 5-2 at LSU as an interim, totaling 11 wins, which was more than his 10 wins at Ole Miss.

Danny Kanell Joins the Show

ESPN’s own Danny Kanell joined the show to discuss why he insists on wearing a black turtleneck on air and whether he considers himself a "provocateur." The guys grilled him on the College Football Playoff, where Danny is leaning into the chaos. He isn't convinced that the committee is as high on the Buckeyes as everyone else thinks.

Loss
Nov 28, 2016
#8215
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Ohio State is not a lock for the College Football Playoff if Penn State wins the Big Ten

If Penn State beats Wisconsin... I think you're looking at either two Big Ten teams in or you're looking at Penn State in and Ohio State out. Now, that's very, like, no one agrees with me on this... Kirk Herbstreit, those guys are saying, no, they're saying, you know, Ohio State's a lock... And I don't know how they can comfortably say that.

The committee ultimately chose Ohio State (the non-champion) over Penn State (the Big Ten champion) for the 4th seed.

While the committee focuses on resumes, Big Cat and PFT are more about the gut feeling. Danny leaned into the eye test himself, making the case for a certain Pac-12 team that started slow but is finishing like a freight train.

Win
Nov 28, 2016
#20810
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Based on the eye test, USC is one of the four best teams in the country

If you just look at teams, eye test, who's playing as good as anybody, USC is in the top four. And they're all like, what about September? It matters. But what about any losses?

USC won its final 9 games including a dramatic Rose Bowl, finishing the season as arguably the hottest team in the country and ranked top 5.

The conversation shifted to the "War on Football," where Danny—who has survived enough concussions to consider them a form of time travel—defended the sport’s longevity. He even dropped a stat that had PFT calling for a fact-check from his numbers guy.

Push
Nov 28, 2016
#8216
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

The average lifespan of an NFL player is longer than an average American

The average lifespan of an NFL player is longer than an average American. No, even an average American. Like, it's longer. They live longer, healthier lives than an average American. CTE or not.

While some studies (like NIOSH 2012) showed NFL players had lower overall mortality rates than the general population due to higher fitness and socioeconomic status, the claim is highly debated regarding quality of life and brain health specifically.

Before letting him go, the guys asked Danny to look into the future of the coaching carousel. With Tom Herman heading to Austin and Coach O staying in Baton Rouge, Danny thinks the Longhorns have the clearer path to a trophy.

Loss
Nov 28, 2016
#8218
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Tom Herman will win a conference championship before Ed Orgeron

Who wins a conference championship first? Tom Herman? Coach O? Oh, I think Tom Herman. Because Coach O is – I need to see who he's going to bring in to run his offense... But the road that Tom Herman has to take is going to be so much easier in the Big 12.

Ed Orgeron won the SEC and the National Championship in 2019. Tom Herman never won the Big 12 conference title at Texas.

PR 101 and Stay Woke

In a special holiday edition of People Forget That, PFT reminded the audience that the yellow line on your television is a lie. It’s a digital illusion that has no bearing on reality, yet fans and apparently refs still treat it like the Gospel.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The yellow first down line on TV is not an official line

People forget that the yellow line on the field isn't official. So people actually forgot that this weekend in the Ohio State-Michigan game. What? Great game by the refs forgot it as a matter of fact so they just said oh it looks like across the yellow line first down first down

This is a literal fact; the yellow line is a broadcast graphic and not visible on the field or used by officials.

Big Cat used the segment to launch a formal attack on the CBS executive suite. He was legitimately furious that the Lions-Vikings game didn't feature the traditional holiday graphics, while Fox was out here hitting us with a leaf-and-gourd bukkake on every score.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Fox has a much better Thanksgiving broadcast than CBS because they use holiday graphics

CBS cheated us on that. I don't know if you saw it. But it came back. They didn't have it, and then Fox was like a bukkake of leaves on my face. Leaves and gourds just dripping... I actually got mad on Thanksgiving Day when I turned on the Lions game and it was just a regular scoreboard. How the fuck am I supposed to know it's a holiday if it's a regular scoreboard?

Purely a matter of broadcast preference.

Finally, the guys took a look at the upcoming conference championships. While most people are looking at the x's and o's, Big Cat is looking at the shadows. He’s calling his woke shot for the Big Ten title game, suspecting that the fix is already in to ensure the committee gets the matchup they want.

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Nov 28, 2016·Stay Woke
#8222
Big CatBig Cat

The 2016 Big Ten Championship game is rigged for Wisconsin to win

The Big Ten titles game is going to be rigged in favor of Wisconsin this time. Because last time, the 59-0 Ohio State. That was rigged. Wisconsin. Gary Anderson was fired recently. Left right away. It all makes sense.

PredictionCFBHotSarcastic
Penn State defeated Wisconsin 38-31 to win the Big Ten Championship.

If you see a suspicious amount of falling leaves on your TV this December, just know that Fox worked hard to ship those in from L.A.

nflcollege-footballlsuespnbears

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Void
Nov 28, 2016·Who's Back
#20808
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The punt safety is the best play in football

I love the punch [punt] safety, by the way. Love it. The punch safety is probably my favorite play in football. And Harbaugh used it.

Inherently subjective opinion about play preference.
Win
Nov 28, 2016·Who's Back
#20809
Big CatBig Cat

John Gruden is the ultimate coaching search leverage tool to help candidates negotiate higher salaries

John Gruden is like the fail-proof coaching rumor. When a team or a college can't leverage their coaching search against anyone, they're like, well, John Gruden's interested... He's always going to come back if a team needs him to negotiate against someone else.

The phenomenon of 'Grumors' was a staple of the 2010s until Gruden finally took the Raiders job in 2018.
Void
Nov 28, 2016
#20811
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Playing football builds character in kids that other activities cannot replicate

People that play the game of football, I feel like it builds character in them that a lot of other activities don't build the types of character. [Big Cat: The Xbox and the millennial.]

Inherently subjective claim about the value of sports.
Void
Nov 28, 2016
#8217
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

College players should be allowed to transfer without penalty if their coach leaves

A quick fix for the NCAA for me to make things fairer for the players is to let them transfer if their coach goes they should be able to go too let them go i agree with that

While not a specific rule for when a coach leaves, the NCAA eventually implemented the transfer portal and the one-time transfer exception in 2021, greatly increasing player mobility.
Loss
Nov 28, 2016
#20812
Danny KanellDanny Kanell

Texas will be the favorite to win the Big 12 next season

I think Texas might be the favorite next year to win the Big 12. I know it's crazy to think that, but Oklahoma's going to lose Baker Mayfield. What are they going to do? But I think Tom Herman might be the pick to win the Big 12 next year.

Texas finished 7-6 (5-4 in Big 12) in 2017. Oklahoma went 12-2 and won the conference.
Void
Nov 28, 2016·Stay Woke
#8221
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell's failure to suspend Aaron Hernandez is encouraging other players to mimic him

Players are starting to do the Aaron Hernandez crack the safe money toss touchdown celebration. I have. So stay woke. Roger Goodell in his negligence and failing to suspend Aaron Hernandez despite being convicted of murder... he's emboldened the players to mimic Aaron Hernandez. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some more murders.

The NFL technically never suspended Hernandez while he was in prison because he was no longer under contract, though they had no intention of letting him play.

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