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Howie Long, College Football Is Back, Trey Lance Traded + Mt Rushmore Of Fictional Animals

Monday, August 28, 202322 takes

College Football is back and Jason Garrett is a buzzkill. 49ers trade Trey Lance in what may be the biggest bust in Draft history(-). Who's back of the week including Trump's golf game and Messi being the GOAT(-). Howie Long joins the show to talk about his incredible path to the NFL, his 30 years at FOX, the Raiders, 2023 Football season and tons more(-). We finish the show with Mt Rushmore of Fictional Animals(-)

Howie Long on the Raiders, 30 Years at FOX, and Trey Lance Trade

Summer is officially on its deathbed because real, meaningful football was finally on our television screens this weekend. Even though it was only Week Zero, Big Cat and PFT were locked in for every snap, even if the broadcast left a little to be desired. Watching Notre Dame dismantle Navy in Dublin was a great appetizer, but the production value took a hit for Big Cat once the commentary started.

Void
Aug 28, 2023
#2462
Big CatBig Cat

Jason Garrett is a total buzzkill on the broadcast

There's no better way to kill your football buzz than having Jason Garrett call the game... I know it was week zero. I know there's only like seven games. They all, they all mean something to me. And then Jason Garrett was on there and I immediately fell in a nap in the second quarter.

Subjective opinion on broadcast quality.

The biggest tragedy of the weekend, however, was the Pac-12 Network showing its true colors during the USC game. While Caleb Williams was busy out there looking like the future number one overall pick, half of the country was stuck watching a grainy cell phone stream from a guy on the dark web just to see the Heisman winner play.

Win
Aug 28, 2023
#2463
Big CatBig Cat

The Pac-12 is dying because people can't watch stars like Caleb Williams play on their network

The returning Heisman Caleb Williams, who would probably be the number one pick in the draft and no one in America could watch it 'cause it was Pac-12 network... that could not have been the better way to tip off the last Pac-12 season opener to be like, hey, this is why we're dying. Because we can't watch fucking Caleb Williams play football.

The Pac-12 effectively collapsed shortly after this, largely due to media rights issues and lack of visibility.

The Trey Lance Era (Is Over)

The biggest NFL news of the weekend was the San Francisco 49ers finally pulling the ripcord on the Trey Lance experience, shipping him off to Dallas for a fourth-round pick. Big Cat pointed out that while John Lynch is an incredible GM, this goes down as one of the most lopsided misses in the history of the draft considering what they gave up to get him.

Win
Aug 28, 2023
#2470
Big CatBig Cat

The 49ers trade for Trey Lance is one of the worst busts in NFL history

Find another team that trades three first round picks and misses that badly on a quarterback and still is potentially a Super Bowl team... but that has to be one of the worst bust slash trades in, in NFL history.

Trey Lance was traded for a 4th round pick after starting only 4 games for the 49ers, having cost three 1st-rounders. It is statistically one of the worst ROI trades in NFL history.

Now Lance heads to Big D, which creates a ticking time bomb for Dak Prescott. PFT is already looking forward to the inevitable camera cut to Lance on the sidelines the second Dak makes a mistake in Week 1.

Win
Aug 28, 2023
#2472
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Fans will clamor for Trey Lance the moment Dak Prescott throws his first interception

I am, I'm very much looking forward to though the first terrible interception. Yes. Dak Prescott throws. Yes. I will be clamoring, I'll be standing on the table for Trey Lance, which will [happen] exactly two weeks from right now.

Dak Prescott did throw an interception in his season opener (against the Giants), and the media/fanbase immediately started debating the Trey Lance backup dynamic.

Howie Long Joins the Program

The guys were finally joined by the patriarch of the Long family, Hall of Famer and FOX analyst Howie Long. Howie shared some incredible stories about his path from Charlestown to Villanova and eventually to the Raiders. He painted a picture of the old Raiders locker room that sounds like a movie set, filled with guys like Lyle Alzado and Matt Millen who were as terrifying as they were talented. Howie even cleared up the legendary story about Matt Millen allegedly hitting the Patriots GM with his helmet after a playoff game.

Looking ahead to the current season, Howie offered some perspective on the Broncos' transition under Sean Payton. He thinks the pairing with Russell Wilson is exactly what that offense needs to stop the bleeding from last year.

Push
Aug 28, 2023
#2488
Howie LongHowie Long

Sean Payton will fix Russell Wilson by stripping away the extras and getting back to basics

I think Russell is a guy that I think needed Sean Payton to come in... Sean is the guy that will come in and he is not afraid to tell you, you know, the office thing. That's not No, we're not doing that... We're gonna get back to the basics. We're gonna get back to run the football, we're gonna make the offensive line better. We're, we're gonna get back to doing the things and, and tailor the offense to a version of what Sean's run.

Wilson significantly improved his stats in 2023 (26 TDs to 8 INTs), though the Broncos still struggled and eventually benched him for financial reasons.

Before letting him go, the guys had to settle the ultimate family debate. Howie has three sons who are all high-level athletes, but he didn't hesitate when asked who the alpha is in a hypothetical wrestling match.

Void
Aug 28, 2023
#2490
Howie LongHowie Long

Kyle Long would win a wrestling match against Chris and Howie in their primes

Kyle is frightening. When he puts hands on you, it's a different kind. It's like, some people are, I'm heavy handed, he's heavy handed on a bigger... I would take Kyle [in a wrestling match].

Hypothetical prime matchup between family members.

Who's Back and Mount Rushmore

Who's Back of the Week featured some heavy hitters. PFT celebrated Donald Trump's reported club championship 67 at Bedminster, while Big Cat took aim at Herm Edwards for the current state of the Arizona State program.

Win
Aug 28, 2023·Who's Back
#2482
Big CatBig Cat

Herm Edwards is a total fraud for the mess he left at Arizona State

My who's back is Herm Edwards being a fraud because Arizona State has a bull ban... He's on ESPN giving speeches about, you know, upstanding character and doing the right thing. And he just left this mess in his past. So he is a total fraud.

Edwards was fired mid-season and the program later self-imposed a bowl ban for violations committed under his watch.

To wrap up the show, we hit the final stretch of Mount Rushmore season with the Mount Rushmore of Fictional Animals. The stakes couldn't be higher as the standings are separated by just a few points, and the losers are looking at a 24-hour stream of misery.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

The losers of the 2023 Mount Rushmore competition will have to do a 24-hour stream with their partner

This is it. This is a finale of Mount Rushmore season... someone will be in a 24 hour stream with their partner for all of us to watch narrate.

The losers (Hank and Max) did eventually have to perform a 24-hour livestream punishment.

There was plenty of debate over what constitutes "fictional," with Air Bud becoming the center of a heated legal argument between Jake and the rest of the room. Hank and Max leaned into the classics like Bugs Bunny and Snoopy, while Big Cat and PFT went for high-value picks like Brian Griffin and Michelangelo.

Enjoy the last week of non-NFL Sundays while you still can.

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#28737
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 2023 Commanders vs. Ravens matchup was the most important preseason game of all time

It is good to have games that mean something besides obviously the Commander's Ravens game, which was the most important preseason game of all time.

This is a subjective, satirical claim about a preseason game's importance.
Void
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#28738
Big CatBig Cat

College football should move the season forward so every team plays during 'Week Zero'

I wish week zero. Like everyone should play Week zero. They should just move the season forward... everyone plays. And then week one... I just want all the games right now.

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Loss
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#2465
Jake MarshJake Marsh

Miami of Ohio will beat Miami (FL) in their season opener

First time you'll hear this, I think Miami's gonna win... I'm taking Miami [of Ohio].

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Win
Aug 28, 2023
#2467
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I will cut off a testicle if the Miami Hurricanes lose to Miami of Ohio

My hundred percent lock. I I will, I will cut off a testicle if Miami doesn't win that game.

Miami (FL) won 38-3, so his testicles were safe.
Void
Aug 28, 2023
#2468
Big CatBig Cat

Bob Barker is the GOAT game show host

In my mind the GOAT game show host. Yeah. I mean I know Trebek... Trebek's great. It was, it was the GOAT game show. Right. And he was the host for so long... Just the perfect amount of kind of horny, you know, made sure that everyone got their pets spayed and neutered would get a little pissed off when people were dumb. He just was the best.

Subjective ranking of entertainment figures.
Void
Aug 28, 2023
#2474
Big CatBig Cat

The new college football running clock rule on first downs is ruining the game

The new rule about First Downs sucks. The fact that they keep the running clock sucks. Yeah, it sucks. It's stupid... they just added more commercials. They fucking, it sucks. They're ruining college football.

Subjective opinion, though data later showed games were slightly shorter with fewer offensive plays per game.
Win
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#2476
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Stephen Strasberg's contract was the worst in baseball history

Post World series, he was paid $460,000 per pitch. He was paid 2.6 million per out. 7.8 million per inning pitch. And he was paid $30.6 million per start. Whoa. Probably, probably the worst contract in baseball history.

Strasberg signed a 7-year, $245M extension and pitched only 31.1 innings after signing it. In terms of value per dollar, it is almost universally cited as the worst in MLB history.
Loss
Aug 28, 2023
#2484
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers is going to be incredible for the Jets

[Rodgers] is gonna be incredible. Yeah. I watched the first two drives and then it was college football. That's all I needed.

Rodgers tore his Achilles 4 plays into the first game, making it impossible for him to be 'incredible' for the 2023 season.
Push
Aug 28, 2023·Who's Back
#28739
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins will be incredible during the 2023 season

Kirk Cousins looks great. Yeah, he does. Have you seen the mustache? He looks awesome... I'm in on 'em.

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Void
Aug 28, 2023·Who's Back
#2479
HankHank

Messi's assist against the Red Bulls was the craziest pass I've ever seen

Beat the Red Bulls scored another or no? Yeah. Unbelievable goal. Probably the craziest pass I've ever seen in the, in the sport of football... I think it was [better than his World Cup pass].

Subjective opinion on aesthetics and skill.
Loss
Aug 28, 2023·Who's Back
#2481
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Donald Trump is the best golfer in the United States

Rick Re says that it wasn't actually 67. I don't be a hater, Rick. He says it was more like an 86... [Trump] is the best golfer in the United States.

Donald Trump is not a professional-level golfer capable of being the 'best in the US' by any objective metric.
Void
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#2485
Howie LongHowie Long

Howie Long Jr. is the best athlete in the Long family

People ask why I waited to name our third child Howie. And I said, well, you know, it's easy because he's our favorite. You know, he's the best athlete in the family. He's, he's really just our favorite.

Inherently subjective familial ranking.
Loss
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#2487
Howie LongHowie Long

The Jaguars will take another step forward because Doug Pederson brings a calm influence to the quarterback

Jaguars I think are, are gonna be a team that, you know, I remember that that game down there in the playoffs... I like what they're doing down there. I like Doug. I think Doug brings a, a calm particularly to the, the quarterback room.

The Jaguars actually regressed in 2023, finishing 9-8 and missing the playoffs after a late-season collapse.
Win
Aug 28, 2023
#2492
Howie LongHowie Long

Modern NFL players are undeniably bigger, stronger, and faster than the 80s generation

It's, trust me, I, I I have no problem saying that. It's bigger, it's stronger, it's faster. Yeah. And, you know, that's the way it is... biggest offensive line's three 20 across the board. Different game.

Biometric and combine data confirms that NFL players have steadily increased in size and speed over decades.

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