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Ryan Whitney, Stephan Jenkins From Third Eyed Blind, Week 17 Picks And Preview + Someone Slept In Again

Wednesday, December 24, 202522 takes

We’re back in studio before Christmas break and it was a quick turn around recording Monday morning and someone may have slept in again (-). We do Week 17 picks and preview, some Sunday clean up and talk playoff picture coming down the stretch (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne, LeBron is thirsty for golf and Sherrone Moore was thirsty on Instagram (-). Ryan Whitney joins the show to talk NHL Preview, how much he hates us for McDavid, NBA, Olympics and more (-). Third Eyed Blind lead Singer Stephan Jenkins joins the show to talk about his career in music, making new albums, getting freaked, and tons more (-). We finish with guys on chicks (-). Next Show Monday December 29th

Ryan Whitney on the NHL, Stephan Jenkins, and the Candy Bulk Strategy

The vibes in the studio are a mix of holiday cheer and extreme physical exhaustion as Big Cat and PFT are grinding through a quick turnaround. We’ve got a massive episode to carry everyone through the Christmas break, but first, we have to address the elephant in the room: Big Cat is currently in the middle of a self-imposed sugar-induced coma. Hank walked in to find over $200 worth of Swedish Fish and gummy bears, which Big Cat defended as a sophisticated biological maneuver.

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Dec 24, 2025
#23359
Big CatBig Cat

Eating hundreds of dollars of candy before starting a diet is a legitimate strategy to bulk up and lose weight faster

This has happened probably, I don't know, 25 times in my life where I am gearing up for a diet and then the couple weeks before I just go so hard in unhealthiness just to bulk up to the point where I can lose weight fast. I am in that phase... the actual order was $225 worth of candy.

The concept of 'bulking up' on sugar to lose weight faster is medically dubious, but this is a personal lifestyle 'strategy'.

Before the guys get into the picks, Jersey Jerry stopped by to check in on his Steelers. Despite some weird drama with TJ Watt's lungs and potential needle accidents, Jerry is feeling dangerous. He’s fully convinced that Mike Tomlin is cooking something special for the postseason.

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Dec 24, 2025
#1274
Jersey JerryJersey Jerry

The Steelers will win at least two playoff games this season

I'm thinking two playoff wins... Minimum two playoff wins right now. And listen, I mean, can you say [Aaron] Rogers has been pretty damn good this year? Yes... He's dialed in.

The Steelers lost in the Wild Card 6-30 to the Texans. Zero playoff wins, far from the predicted two.

Week 17 Picks and Playoff Scenarios

The playoff picture is tightening up, and everyone is trying to find an edge. PFT is keeping a close eye on the AFC South, specifically Trevor Lawrence, who he thinks isn't getting nearly enough respect for the Jaguars' late-season surge.

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Dec 24, 2025·Picks
#23360
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Trevor Lawrence should be in the MVP conversation if the Jaguars secure the number one seed

Trevor Lawrence right now is maybe in the MVP conversation if they get to one seed. He's playing that good. He's playing as good as any quarterback in the NFL right now.

PFT said Trevor Lawrence should be in the MVP conversation if the Jags get the 1 seed. Lawrence was indeed named an MVP finalist after leading the Jaguars to 13-4 and the AFC South title. However, the Jaguars did NOT get the 1 seed (they were the 3 seed; Denver was the AFC 1 seed). Lawrence was in the MVP conversation but without the 1 seed condition being met.

Meanwhile, Shane is doing mental math to figure out how his Chargers can still win the AFC West. While the math might be too many digits for him, he’s confident that his quarterback is the only thing keeping the lights on in Los Angeles.

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ShaneShane

Justin Herbert is the most valuable player to his team in the NFL

If you look at like, players who are most valuable players to their teams, I think [Justin Herbert] might be the most valuable player. 'Cause if you don't have Justin Herbert, the Chargers are like a four or five win team.

This is a subjective evaluation of a player's worth to his specific team.

Over in the NFC, the Bears have officially clinched, but Big Cat is still looking for ways to gamble on them. He’s eyeing the point total for the 49ers game, mostly because he has zero faith in either defensive line to actually do their jobs.

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Dec 24, 2025·Picks
#23361
Big CatBig Cat

The Over is a great bet for Bears vs. 49ers because neither defense can pressure the quarterback

My take on the Bears-Niners game is... I kind of like the over, because I don't know if either team can get to the quarterback. Because the Bears struggle with it as well.

The Bears-49ers Week 17 game finished 42-38 (total: 80 points), a game described as a 'primetime shootout' and 'instant classic.' The over/under was set around 51.5-53.5, so the over hit easily. Big Cat was right that the over was a great bet.

Max is also banging the drum for the 'Shuckster.' He’s convinced that Tyler Shuck’s late-season run with the Saints shouldn't just be a nice story; it should be rewarded with some hardware.

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MaxMax

Tyler Shuck should win NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year

He should win Rookie of the Year. Right now he's second in odds on DK... if Tyler Shuck ends the year on this winning streak, it has to be Tyler Shuck. If he ends the year six and three as a starter, insane.

Tyler Shough did not win AP Offensive Rookie of the Year. Tetairoa McMillan won the award.

Ryan Whitney's NHL Preview

The number one guest in show history, Ryan Whitney, joined the show from his backyard rink to deliver his annual hockey preview and insult everyone’s football teams. Whitney is still fuming over the 'Oilers jackets' bit from last year, and he spent a good chunk of the interview trashing the NBA and begging Big Cat and PFT to lead the hockey revolution.

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Dec 24, 2025
#23365
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The NBA is an absolute disgrace and sports fans should stop watching it in favor of the NHL

I think it's an absolute disgrace, the entire league... you guys are the biggest podcast in sports and truly get people away from the NBA and more into the NHL. ESPN won't do it, nobody else will do it, and you guys could do it and you refuse to do it.

The quality of sports leagues is a subjective fan preference.

Whitney didn’t hold back on the state of the league, calling out the Colorado Avalanche as the team everyone should be terrified of.

Open
Dec 24, 2025
#1281
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The Colorado Avalanche are the absolute 'wagon' of the NHL

Colorado is the wagon guys. Colorado's the one that you're scared of... I can't help but see them running through the entire league and then winning the Stanley Cup with ease. Right now they are on pace to break the Bruins record for most points.

The conclusion of the 2025-26 NHL season will verify if they win the Cup or set the points record.

He also gave some love to Quinn Hughes, though he’s still processing the shocking trade that sent him to Minnesota. According to Whit, the defenseman rankings are pretty clear right now.

Void
Dec 24, 2025
#23366
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Quinn Hughes is the second best defenseman in the world

Quinn Hughes is the second best defenseman in the world. He just got traded to the Wild from Vancouver. Shocking trade. So now you've got those three teams [Colorado, Dallas, Minnesota] and one of them is gonna be out in the first round.

Ranking players is inherently subjective.

Of course, the conversation eventually turned back to his beloved Oilers. Whitney delivered a somber prediction about the future of the best player in the world, suggesting fans should cherish the next three years before the inevitable happens.

Open
Dec 24, 2025
#1280
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

Connor McDavid will leave the Oilers after the next three seasons

He's Gonzo win or lose. We have three seasons left with Connor McDavid. That's my opinion... after three years, so three more playoffs. I think that would've been 13 years for McDavid.

McDavid's free agency or trade status will be clear after the 2027-28 NHL season.

Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind

In a true 'gotta get freaked' moment, Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind sat down in the studio. He’s a massive Warriors fan and spent a lot of time dissecting Steve Kerr’s rotations. He’s not a fan of how the team is handling their young big men.

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Dec 24, 2025
#23367
Stephan JenkinsStephan Jenkins

Steve Kerr is failing to properly develop young Warriors talent like Quentin Post and Quinten Post

I really don't know even that much about the Warriors, but I'm a big fan... I would understand that developing young talent is the thing... Quentin Post is a really good center and he's beginning to show it. I hope he's showing it enough that we don't just put him out for a trade.

Coaching decisions and player development paths are subjective matters of team strategy.

Stephan also got nerdy with PFT about the recording process, explaining how some of the most iconic sounds on their self-titled album were actually born out of creative tension and band members who weren't exactly on speaking terms.

Void
Dec 24, 2025
#1283
Stephan JenkinsStephan Jenkins

Every great record was unpleasant to make and involved band members hating each other

I think that every good record that I can think of was made—was unpleasant to make, you know, they all sort of hate each other. Fleetwood Mac... the White Stripes... Jack [White] couldn't get Meg to do anything... it's all kind of this struggle.

This is a subjective theory on creative psychology.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

PFT’s Hot Seat this week featured some serious Christmas gambling strategy. He reminded everyone that when it comes to the holiday slate, you have to account for the 'home team food coma' factor.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Road teams have a significant advantage in NFL games played on Christmas Day

Remember last year Christmas, the lesson that we learned... you fade the home team because they're doing all the family stuff, eating big meals on Christmas Eve. The road team has the advantage on Christmas Day.

On Christmas Day 2025, all three road teams won: Cowboys beat Commanders 30-23, Vikings beat Lions 23-10, and Broncos beat Chiefs 20-13. Road teams went 3-0.

Big Cat put LeBron James on the Hot Seat for his recent complaints about the NBA's holiday schedule, pointing out that LeBron is the last person who should be surprised by a Christmas Day tip-off.

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Big CatBig Cat

It is hypocritical for LeBron James to complain about playing on Christmas after doing it for 20 years

LeBron's been playing on Christmas for 20 years. Like, what are you talking about? Now, you're upset? I should [mention] though... Christmas Day [games] are ruined now because they don't play defense in the league.

The claim of hypocrisy is an opinion based on LeBron's long history of playing on the holiday.

To wrap up the show, PFT gave Bobby Petrino a glowing review for his new gig at UNC. He’s convinced the motorcycle enthusiast is exactly what that locker room needs to find its moral compass.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bobby Petrino is a man of character who will clean up the North Carolina locker room as offensive coordinator

Bobby Petrino is going to be their new offense coordinator for next season. And I think that's a great hire. This is fun that Bobby Petrino, a man of character can get in, clean up that locker room and, and really change it from being a circus into a, a run of the mill workman like professional football organization.

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Petrino's history makes the 'man of character' claim factually dubious in the eyes of many, but as a satirical opinion, it is subjective.

If you're traveling this week, just remember: stay away from the airport chili if you want to keep your dignity.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lamar Jackson has radiation poisoning from getting too many MRIs

Do you think Lamar Jackson has radiation poisoning? Mm. From all the MRIs. Too many MRIs and all the x-rays... It might be like Chernobyl.

MRIs do not use ionizing radiation, making radiation poisoning from them scientifically impossible.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

John Harbaugh will be fired by the Ravens after the season

I think Harbaugh's gonna be gone. It feels... I don't think that you can have both of 'em back when you have a superstar quarterback that is your franchise and you have a long tenured head coach and they seem to not be seeing eye to eye.

John Harbaugh was fired by the Ravens after an 8-9 season. He was subsequently hired by the Giants.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Eating Ben's Chili Bowl at Reagan Airport before a flight should be banned for safety reasons

Eating that before you get onto a flight... that should, it should be box cutters and Ben's Chili Bowl. The two things that you can't bring on a flight.

This is a humorous comparison that cannot be factually proven.
Open
Dec 24, 2025
#1282
Ryan WhitneyRyan Whitney

The Anaheim Ducks will win a Stanley Cup within the next eight years

I'll guarantee a Ryan Whitney guarantee. Ooh, Anaheim wins a Stanley Cup in the next eight years. Anaheim's gonna get a cup... they have a wagon of like young stars coming.

This prediction has a 2033 deadline.
Void
Dec 24, 2025
#23368
Stephan JenkinsStephan Jenkins

The Warriors should trade for Domantas Sabonis because his 'nasty' style would benefit the team

We could get [Domantas] Sabonis. And Sabonis would be, he would be a nasty piece of business because I hate watching that guy play basketball. I can't stand it. He's always just poking and picking at people. I want him poking and picking on our team.

This is a personnel recommendation that cannot be proven correct or incorrect unless the trade occurs and results follow.
Void
Dec 24, 2025
#23369
Stephan JenkinsStephan Jenkins

The Sphere in Las Vegas prioritizes spectacle over meaningful human interaction in music

People say that they like the Sphere, but everybody says the same thing... there's a tiny little person in this great big thing. So it's spectacle over... that human interaction. Yeah. And I don't really see it.

A philosophical opinion on the nature of live performance.
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Big CatBig Cat

Michigan State fans should troll Michigan over Sherrone Moore's Instagram activity

Michigan State deserves and is allowed to just go after Michigan right now. I actually think you should fire back... you go Sherrone Moore. Mel Tucker. 'cause that looks like you can hang. And also do not do the Larry Nassar [jokes].

This is a matter of fan etiquette and rivalry protocol.

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