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#PMT-2020-0501-4127
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Jordan is the absolute definition of a 'winner', despite his flaws as an owner

Michael Jordan is not a loser... he is the definition of the word winner? Yes. Yeah, I would say so in like sees synonymous with winner more probably any athlete.

Subjective sports debate about the definition of greatness.
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Take Slip·Apr 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0427-18383
Big CatBig Cat

Dennis Rodman is a role model for finding a niche and becoming the best at it

I actually do think that Dennis Rodman is role model in a weird way in that if you can figure out something that you're the best at, it doesn't matter what weird little niche category it is in life. If there's one thing that you're better than everybody else that are more focused on, steer into that and get well really, really good at that and be known as the best to ever do that and you will be extremely successful.

The value of specializing in a niche is a widely accepted business and success philosophy, though calling Rodman a 'role model' is the provocative part.
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Take Slip·Apr 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0427-18384
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Michael Jordan's switch-hand layup against the Lakers was completely unnecessary

The layup that Michael Jordan had in the finals against the Lakers where he jumps in the air and switches hands—completely unnecessary to do that. It's a cool-looking highlight, he didn't need to do that. You could have just done a finger roll with his right hand; he switched to his left hand because it looked cool.

While physically true (he had a clear right-handed lane), the take is a value judgment on the necessity of style.
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Take Slip·Apr 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0427-18385
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Jordan's hatred for Isiah Thomas is the strongest he's ever had for anyone

The last grudge I had and it's the best by far, Michael Jordan has never hated anyone as much as he hates Isiah Thomas and it's fucking awesome to watch how much he still holds onto it to this day... MJ just his hatred is so goddamn deep for him and it's fantastic to watch.

The documentary explicitly highlights this specific grudge as being uniquely bitter and lasting decades.
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#PMT-2020-0422-8358
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA will never play again in 2020

I don't think they're going to play again ever. I heard a nasty rumor today... I've canceled sports for 2020 you guys got mad at me for that.

The NBA did return in 2020 with the Orlando Bubble.
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Take Slip·Apr 20, 2020
#PMT-2020-0420-14033
Big CatBig Cat

Jerry Krause deserves credit for the Bulls dynasty but his ego was a detriment

Krauss deserved more credit than he got but wanted more credit than he deserved. So he's constantly stuck in that spot where he is like I should be getting more credit and he probably in a weird way should but he wanted so much credit that it then became a detriment and a galvanizing force for those Bulls teams to be like, fuck you dude.

The take is a subjective evaluation of historical sports figures, generally aligned with the consensus of the documentary's portrayal.
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Take Slip·Apr 17, 2020
#PMT-2020-0417-11958
Big CatBig Cat

The ESPN horse competition was a complete failure

I'm so happy that I was adamant when they announce that horse was coming out and I said this is going to suck and everyone was like no it's sports or need supports. This sucks... The fact they put it on TV it ruined it.

The event was widely panned by critics and fans for poor production quality and lack of excitement.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5358
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

I would not have a spot in today's NBA

No, not at all. I would probably be playing overseas... I'm glad I came along when I did. nowadays, if you assume that you gotta have a 40 inch vertical, you gotta be able to run the floor like a gazelle. No way I would have been able to keep up with the pace.

Perkins' style as a traditional, non-shooting big man has largely been phased out of the modern NBA.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5359
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

The NBA will not return to finish the 2019-20 season

Now I've come to the conclusion... I honestly don't see the NBA coming back. It's going to be hard... I couldn't see myself leaving my family right now to go and play in an isolated area in the bubble.

The NBA successfully returned in the Orlando Bubble in July 2020.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5360
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Rudy Gobert is essentially a savior for forcing the world to take COVID-19 seriously

Rudy was kind of like a bad guy, but he was almost like a savior... he possibly saved some lives by doing an immature act because after the incident, the NBA led the charge and shut down sports. From there it was a spiral where everyone else was like, 'it's time to shut down the world.'

While controversial, it is a historical fact that the NBA's shutdown was a major catalyst for other US institutions following suit.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5361
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Mark Jackson deserves more credit than Steve Kerr for the Warriors dynasty

Mark Jackson built that coach over there. Mark Jackson is on record calling the Splash Brothers the Splash Brothers. He's on record talking noise saying 'I got the best two shooters in the world.' Steve Kerr just happened to see the stroke go right.

While Jackson laid groundwork, Kerr's offensive overhaul is widely credited by the players and analysts for unlocking their championship ceiling.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5362
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Russell Westbrook is the greatest Thunder player ever, even if KD was the best

Russell Westbrook was the greatest Thunder ever. I didn't say he was the best player to ever play for the Thunder... the greatest is like a person who held it down... put up some great numbers. When you hear the name Thunder, you think of this person. Katie [Durant] left the door open.

Common debate in sports; Westbrook stayed while Durant left, leading many OKC fans to agree.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5363
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Kevin Durant will win MVP next year

I actually think [Kevin Durant] is going to win the MVP next year on top of it... with him going to the Nets, I think it's going to be his team. It is his team.

Nikola Jokic won the 2020-21 MVP. Durant played well but did not win the award.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5364
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

The Lakers would have won the title this year if the season continued

The Lakers [would have won]. They were peaking at the right time. LeBron was on his way of challenging Giannis in my eyes to winning the MVP. They have the best duo in the league since Kobe and Shaq in Anthony Davis and LeBron James.

The Lakers did eventually win the 2020 NBA Championship in the Bubble.
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Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5365
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Old school NBA coaches are becoming extinct

It's a different type of it's not like old school no more. Like these old school coaches are coming extinct. It's a player's league. You got to have coaches that's going to understand the players... I almost think that Gregg Popovich's time is almost, you know, he's done a great job, but maybe it's time for new change.

The Spurs struggled in the years following this take, though Popovich remains a respected figure.
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Take Slip·Apr 13, 2020
#PMT-2020-0413-16344
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I have absolutely zero interest in the NBA HORSE competition

We did have HORSE last night which I'll tell you right now. I did not watch did not tune into that. Zach LaVine, that's really the only Zach LaVine who competes in every single like off-the-books contest there is at the end that the NBA can throw at you. Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, really no interest in it whatsoever.

The NBA HORSE competition was widely panned for poor video quality and lack of excitement.
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Take Slip·Apr 6, 2020
#PMT-2020-0406-12648
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA is definitely going to cancel the rest of the 2019-2020 season

I saw it briefly and scrolled right by it. And then this is the first time thinking about the fact that [Adrian Wojnarowski] kind of hinted that and NBA is definitely going to cancel the rest of the season.

The NBA season was not cancelled; it resumed in the 'Bubble' in Orlando in July 2020 to crown a champion.
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Take Slip·Apr 6, 2020
#PMT-2020-0406-12650
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA's proposed Horse tournament on Instagram Live is the most boring idea ever

Adam Silver is considering having the best players in League Play horse against each other live on Instagram, which is just sounds like the most boring idea of all... there's no way like horse is the fun game when you're like five years old... I would rather watch these players go through their regular work out.

The NBA Horse Challenge did happen on ESPN (not just IG) and was widely panned for poor production quality and being 'boring,' as Big Cat predicted.
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Take Slip·Apr 3, 2020
#PMT-2020-0403-7026
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James will be super annoying and try to make the Michael Jordan documentary about himself

I already know the LeBron's gonna be super annoying during the MJ Dock and try to make it all about LeBron and I don't even think LeBron's in the MJ doc, which is sneaky awesome.

LeBron did live-tweet and post IG stories during 'The Last Dance', often drawing comparisons or inserting himself into the G.O.A.T. conversation discourse.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NBA owners should marry their players to circumvent the salary cap

Could an owner theoretically marry a player in order to circumvent the salary cap? It's actually brilliant, isn't it? I don't think any holes in that... Michael Jordan could probably adopt his son or he could just have a son play and just write more and more into the will every year.

NBA bylaws have anti-circumvention rules that would definitely cover spousal gifts or inheritance-based pay.
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Take Slip·Mar 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0327-7528
Lavar BallLavar Ball

A prime Lavar Ball would kill Zion Williamson one-on-one

Prime Lavar Ball versus Zion Williamson one-on-one? Murder that boy. Too small. He too soft. He too slow. I was way too fast for that boy in my prime. I will kill him. I was just too strong and too fast.

Zion Williamson is a generational NBA athlete. Lavar averaged 2.2 points per game at Washington State. This is physically and statistically absurd.
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Take Slip·Mar 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0327-7529
Lavar BallLavar Ball

LaMelo Ball will be the number one pick in the NBA Draft

Melo was both of those [most popular and best guard]. So if you're going to start your franchise you want the people in them seats? You got to get Melo. Why wouldn't he be picked number one? Anthony Edwards and his wife? Who are they?

LaMelo Ball was selected 3rd overall by the Charlotte Hornets in the 2020 NBA Draft. Anthony Edwards went 1st.
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Take Slip·Mar 27, 2020
#PMT-2020-0327-7530
Lavar BallLavar Ball

I would coach the New York Knicks to an NBA championship in one year if they signed all three of my sons

Would I coach the New York Knicks? I'm coach that team, but I have to have all three of my boys over there. If I have all three of them go to the championship one year. That's all it took me one time and then he said it down I'm gone. My boys play at a whole different level when I am there.

The Knicks did not hire Lavar or sign all three sons, and they have not won a championship since 1973.
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Take Slip·Mar 20, 2020
#PMT-2020-0320-8094
Big CatBig Cat

Zion Williamson will be fat coming out of the quarantine

I just realized that Zion's going to be so fat coming out of quarantine. Like all of us are going to gain weight. There's really you can't go to the gym.

Zion actually lost weight during the initial lockdown and looked very fit for the NBA bubble restart in July 2020.
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Take Slip·Mar 9, 2020
#PMT-2020-0309-18255
Big CatBig Cat

The Lakers are going to the NBA Finals

The Lakers are in the NBA Finals. So congratulations to them as first reported by Magic Johnson. He said Laker Nation after seeing what I saw today from the Lakers defensively and offensively they are going to go to the NBA finals. There you go now there he did. Just beat the in this week. And they just beat the What would most people would say are the second and third best team in the league.

The Lakers did indeed make the NBA Finals (and won the championship) in the 2020 Orlando Bubble.
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#PMT-2020-0309-18257
HankHank

Kyrie Irving is a coach killer who got Kenny Atkinson fired

My other whose back is coach killer Kyrie. Oh, so Kenny Atkinson who was many people were saying was one of the better coaches last year took a young group... He got fired yesterday and people are saying it's Kyrie and KD... Kyrie change seventh head coach in nine NBA season Kyrie Irving.

While Kyrie's influence on the firing is widely speculated upon by NBA insiders and fits the pattern of his career, it remains a subjective interpretation of front office dynamics.
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#PMT-2020-0306-5889
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is exhibiting schizophrenic symptoms via his Instagram captions

His caption of him hitting that three-point shot... Me: I bet you won't. Me: Man who you talking to me. I'm talking to you... man you must not know me well... sounds like he's schizophrenic.

Satirical commentary on social media behavior.
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Take Slip·Mar 4, 2020
#PMT-2020-0304-14463
Thomas "Snacks" LeeThomas "Snacks" Lee

I believe I could give Kevin Durant a run for his money in a one-on-one basketball game

I'll most definitely... I actually like to make that happen. I actually think I give [Durant] a run for his money.

While Lee hit a great shot, he is a student manager and Kevin Durant is an all-time NBA great. Literaly, this is incorrect.
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Take Slip·Mar 4, 2020·PR 101
#PMT-2020-0304-14467
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

James Dolan staged the handshake with Spike Lee to create propaganda for the Knicks

I wouldn't put it past James Dolan. I would not at all this happens at all the time in spy movies and TV shows where you send somebody up to get long-distance snapshot of right looking like something inappropriate is happening and boom. You've got the propaganda right there.

While never proven as a 'staged spy operation', Spike Lee himself claimed the photo was a misleading attempt by Dolan to save face, making PFT's analysis of the PR tactic quite accurate to the situation's optics.
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Take Slip·Mar 2, 2020
#PMT-2020-0302-12675
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James added six years to his career by missing the playoffs last year

I swear to God last year like just probably added another six years to his career just being able to sit out... it's incredible that he's still [playing like this].

LeBron led the Lakers to a title in 2020 and has remained elite well into his late 30s.
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Take Slip·Mar 2, 2020
#PMT-2020-0302-12677
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

James Harden didn't poop himself; it was just bad wiping

I'm like a poop spatter analysis guy and to me that just looked like his prolonged exposure to small amounts of poop that was on his butt. I'm just thinking he didn't wipe well. That's not like a shit myself top-down stain.

Harden's stained shorts were never officially explained, leaving this as a matter of comedic speculation.
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Take Slip·Mar 2, 2020
#PMT-2020-0302-12679
Big CatBig Cat

Jayson Tatum's scoring increased by 9 PPG since he connected his beard

Since Jayson Tatum fully connected his beard... first 42 games in the season he was averaging 21 points per game... The 11 games after he connected it 30.5 points per game. So he jumped up a full nine points... it is the true definition of look good feel good feel good play good.

The stats provided match Tatum's late-season surge in early 2020.
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#PMT-2020-0226-641
Big CatBig Cat

If Zion Williamson is truly 300 pounds, he is the most impressive athlete of all time.

If Zion is 300 pounds, he's the most impressive athlete of all time. He's doing this as a 300-pounder... Better numbers than rookie LeBron. It's incredible watching him.

Zion's weight and athleticism were historically unique, though injuries later hampered his career.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020
#PMT-2020-0224-5245
Big CatBig Cat

Brad Stevens being too nice to referees hurts the Celtics

Brad Stevens like his face and the fact that he treats refs was so much respect hurts him because if he just raises his voice a little he gets a technical foul. That was a bullshit technical foul. What kind of just calling a technical foul with a minute left in the game is also who does that?

Subjective analysis of coaching psychology and officiating bias.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020
#PMT-2020-0224-5248
Shams CharaniaShams Charania

The Heat, Thunder, and Nets are the most forward-thinking NBA organizations

I look at you know, you got to look at the Thunder I They've done a good job the Nets on the obviously getting KD and Kyrie. I think a lot of the Nets is situation has to do with creativity but also information... Indiana. I think has a great kind of culture already set... I like what Miami is doing right now.

Subjective ranking of front office quality by an insider.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020
#PMT-2020-0224-5250
Shams CharaniaShams Charania

John Beilein failed in Cleveland because he treated NBA players like college kids

I think he thought that what his methods were in college. Were going to work at the NBA level and it just wasn't even close... one person described him as a dictator and that's not the way you talk to NBA players... once that Thug comment was made and he went back and said nah, I'm at slugs. I think the players knew that that was never said.

This accurately reflects the consensus reporting on why Beilein's tenure was a disaster and why he was forced out.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020
#PMT-2020-0224-5246
Shams CharaniaShams Charania

I don't see any scenario where Anthony Davis is not a Laker next year

Anthony Davis any chance he goes anywhere, but the Lakers in this offseason? I don't see it. I don't see it... Could he take a meeting? Yes, but I just I don't see a scenario where he's not a Laker.

Anthony Davis did indeed re-sign with the Lakers in the 2020 offseason on a five-year deal.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020
#PMT-2020-0224-5252
Shams CharaniaShams Charania

Markieff Morris is agreeing to a buyout and signs point to the Lakers

Pistons Forward Markieff Morris has agreed to a contract buyout League sources tell athletic... I do think it's the Lakers of the Raptors and the but I want to show you what we're still a might know... I'm pretty sure [Lakers] are the leader in the clubhouse.

Markieff Morris did indeed sign with the Lakers on February 23, 2020, shortly after the buyout.
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Take Slip·Feb 24, 2020·Roast
#PMT-2020-0224-5254
Big CatBig Cat

Jayson Tatum's back tattoo is grammatically incorrect

He did get a new tattoo on his back huge tattoo God's will God's will mmm. No apostrophe though, God's will God's will is God's will... if he wants to be the best player in the league. He cannot have grammatically incorrect tattoo. Kind of sucks has been Kevin Durant people like didn't know he had tattoos till he was like five years ago. They were all grammatically correct.

The tattoo literally says 'GODS WILL' across his back, lacking the possessive apostrophe required for 'God's will'.
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#PMT-2020-0224-5256
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Boylen uses timeouts to delay the inevitable loss because he's a football guy

I think Jim Boylen is so disgusted with losing. He is a football guy in a basketball guys suit. He's so disgusted with losing. I think he uses timeouts the end of a game to literally stop time to delay the inevitable loss. I got you like he can basically say look, it's almost like it's almost like the end of Sunday Night Football when you're like, I don't have to go back to work.

Subjective psychological profile of a coach's strategy.
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Take Slip·Feb 21, 2020·Picks
#PMT-2020-0221-312
Big CatBig Cat

The Cleveland Cavaliers will have five coaches in an 18-month span

I want them to fire their interim between the end of the season because they're going for the record. I think this is their fourth... I need them to get five coaches in like the span of 18 months. I think that's absolutely a hundred percent likely to happen.

J.B. Bickerstaff remained the coach for several seasons (until 2024), so they did not hit the five-coach milestone in 18 months.
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#PMT-2020-0219-5105
Big CatBig Cat

College coaches moving to the NBA often fail because they treat grown men like kids

I love when that happens. When a college coach thinks they can go to the pros and be just as much of a dickhead as they were in college and then everyone in the NBA or NFL is like hey, we don't really have to do all these things that you're making us do because we kind of know how to do it ourselves.

The failure of John Beilein in Cleveland is a primary example of this phenomenon, supporting the take.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2020
#PMT-2020-0217-694
Joakim NoahJoakim Noah

The Chicago Bulls would have won the 2012 NBA Championship if Derrick Rose hadn't suffered an ACL injury.

If Derrick Rose doesn't go down... I think we're holding the trophy. We're the best team in the league. We got the job in my mind still to this day. There's no question. Nobody was fucking with us.

This is a great 'what-if' in sports history. The Bulls were the top seed, but the LeBron-led Heat eventually won the title that year. It remains unprovable but highly debated.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2020
#PMT-2020-0217-695
Joakim NoahJoakim Noah

Kevin Garnett's refusal to be friendly on the court changed Joakim Noah's career and taught him 'no love in battle'.

I remember asking [KG] a question... just trying to be cool like I would just wanted to be I just want to say something to my idol and he just like looked over and he was like... who the fuck you think you talking to... that moment right there changed everything... I learned that there's no love in battle.

This is Noah's personal experience. It's a widely cited anecdote that explains his later hyper-competitive and sometimes antagonistic relationship with other stars.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2020
#PMT-2020-0217-696
Big CatBig Cat

Joakim Noah is an NBA Hall of Famer.

There you are one of only five players to have a final four MVP, all-nba first team, all-defensive first team... Hakeem and Anthony Davis, Bill Walton, Jerry West... I think you're a Hall of Famer.

While Noah had a peak as a Defensive Player of the Year and 1st Team All-NBA, his career longevity and counting stats are generally considered below the threshold for the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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Take Slip·Feb 14, 2020
#PMT-2020-0214-3965
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA All-Star Weekend is ruined by gimmicks and 'LeBron-ification'

The LeBron-ification of the NBA really is actually the John-ification because he's terrible at drafting... And the Three-Point Contest has a four-pointer now. It's like, what is this Ice Cube-ification? I feel like an old man yelling at a cloud... It's not my NBA.

The sentiment that All-Star weekend has lost its edge is subjective but common among traditional fans.
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#PMT-2020-0207-5713
Big CatBig Cat

Andre Iguodala is the finesse king of the world

Andre Iguodala, the finesse king of the world, somehow sat out for half the year and is now getting paid more. He got two years, $30 million at age 36. And to live in Miami. That is... my guy got to promote his book, spend time with his family, get his mind right, and then gets to move to Miami and gets a shitload of money.

Iguodala did indeed sign a 2-year, $30M extension with Miami immediately upon being traded from Memphis after sitting out the first half of the season.
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#PMT-2020-0207-5714
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Clippers got much better by adding Marcus Morris

I actually do think that the Clippers got a lot better. Oh, yeah. ... Marcus Morris, which is going to be awesome when they go up against LeBron. I feel like he's one of those guys in the league who... there's no LeBron stopper, but he's one of the guys who can make him annoyed. He wants to annoy LeBron to no end.

The Clippers were the 2-seed and Morris played a significant role, though they famously collapsed in the bubble against the Nuggets, never reaching the Lakers.
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#PMT-2020-0207-5716
Big CatBig Cat

Andrew Wiggins will be the new Jeff Green and get traded constantly

Andrew Wiggins, I feel like might be a new age Jeff Green where he will get traded now. This will start the process of him being traded a million different ways. He's better than that, but a million different teams and everyone will keep saying, well, he's only 26. Well, he's only 27. He's got all the upside.

Incorrect. Wiggins actually found a home with the Warriors, becoming an All-Star and the second-best player on a 2022 championship team, staying with Golden State for years.
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HankHank

Al Horford might be a locker room cancer

It could be Al, though. I mean, he was part of the Celtics last year. They were a locker room disaster. People think it was Kyrie. They're a locker room disaster. What's a common denominator?

The 2019-20 Sixers were indeed a disaster, and Horford was a poor fit, but he is widely regarded as one of the best locker room presences in the league (as evidenced by his successful second stint in Boston).
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