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Dan Haren, Medina Spirit Is A Junky, And Hank vs Jake

Monday, May 10, 202122 takes

We start the show trying to clear the air from a SHOCKING event last week between Jake and Hank ( - ). Medina Spirit got caught doping and Bob Baffert's explanation is hilarious ( - ). Who's back of the week including dick punching, Canelo Alvarez and Rory McIlroy ( - ). Our good friend Dan Haren joins the show to talk some baseball, no hitters, his dear pug that passed away, avoiding the dentist and pimping home runs ( - ). We finish with Embrace Debate with DK Metcalf and Dogecoin update after Elon Musk's SNL appearance.

Dan Haren on Hitting, No-Hitters, and the Death of a Pug

The vibes in the studio were noticeably different following a seismic shift in the office power dynamic. After Jake Marsh absolutely dismantled Hank in table tennis, the internal hierarchy has been flipped on its head. Jake isn't just a darling anymore; he's a stone-cold killer who now holds the title of the office alpha, leaving Hank to figure out how to exist as his newly minted subordinate.

Void
May 10, 2021
#11456
Jake MarshJake Marsh

I am the best person in the Barstool office at table tennis

The moment Hank had an opportunity to say I was no longer the best, he would have ran away with it. So I knew if I lost back-to-back... But I knew I'm [the best freaking one here].

Subjective claim about skill level in the office.

Speaking of people getting caught in compromising positions, the Kentucky Derby was rocked by news that Medina Spirit tested positive for banned substances. Big Cat and PFT Commenter were fascinated by Bob Baffert’s defense, which essentially boiled down to being shocked that his horses keep finding themselves in these situations. PFT wasn't buying the trainer's excuses, noting that the horse probably just has a taste for the gear.

Loss
May 10, 2021
#11458
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Medina Spirit is a junkie horse

I put the blame on the horse. You can't just make excuses. The horse likes doing drugs, obviously. As our 45th president called it, it's a junkie horse.

Satirical claim about an animal's agency in drug use.

Big Cat was particularly devastated because his first real Kentucky Derby win now comes with a massive asterisk. It’s a tough blow for a sport that already feels like it's on thin ice with the general public.

Win
May 10, 2021
#26146
Big CatBig Cat

My Kentucky Derby win has a huge asterisk because of Bob Baffert

I finally did win the Kentucky Derby, and I talked about it ad nauseum for the days afterwards, and then that one win has a huge asterisk because Bob Baffert is addicted to shooting his horses up with steroids.

Medina Spirit was eventually disqualified, making the 'asterisk' claim factually correct in terms of the horse's win being nullified.
Win
May 10, 2021
#11462
Big CatBig Cat

Horse racing is in a precarious spot in America and the Medina Spirit scandal is not good for the sport

We're in a precarious spot in horse racing in America. I think it's one of those sports that people are starting to be like, yeah, maybe we don't need [it]. I love horse racing, so I think that this is not the scandal we need.

The decline of horse racing's popularity and increased scrutiny is a well-documented trend.

PFT also pointed out that we should have seen this coming based on Baffert's choice of eyewear. You simply cannot trust a man who hasn't committed to either sunglasses or regular frames.

Void
May 10, 2021
#11460
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You never trust a man who wears transition lenses

I think this goes back to my old theory of you never trust a man with transition lenses. The person is up to something shady. Once you reach the stage in life where you commit to becoming a transition lens guy, I'd be shocked if you weren't spending your days and nights drugging racehorses.

Subjective personality judgment based on accessories.

Who’s Back: Rory, Canelo, and Nut Taps

Rory McIlroy is officially back after winning for the first time in 18 months, but the guys were more focused on the return of nut smashing in the NBA. Luka Doncic got himself ejected for a tactical strike on Colin Sexton, leading PFT to call for a serious investigation into the health risks of the sack tap.

Loss
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#26141
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nut tapping is the new concussion and we need an E60 on it

I think that we should [stand up against dick punchers], because in the case of this, it's the coward's way out. I wish Bob Lee was still alive because we should have an entire E60 about nut tapping. It's one of the biggest health scares that we've had in professional sports. It's the new concussion.

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This is a satirical claim equating a prank/foul to a serious brain injury; literally incorrect but intended as comedy.
Loss
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#26142
Big CatBig Cat

Roger Goodell has solved CTE; that shit is in the past

Let's be honest. Roger Goodell has solved CTE. That shit is in the past. He figured that whole thing out, figured out a way for us to all just stop talking about concussions again.

CTE was obviously not 'solved' in 2021; it remains a significant issue in the sport. The take is satirical.

While discussing the dominance of UNC Women's Field Hockey and Canelo Alvarez’s terrifying ability to break orbital bones, the conversation shifted to the legitimacy of celebrity boxing. Big Cat made it clear that while Jake Paul might be a draw, he’s playing a different sport than the elites.

Win
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#11468
Big CatBig Cat

Jake Paul would get his ass kicked and wouldn't even be able to land a punch on Canelo Alvarez

It's so funny watching [Canelo] move and the fact that there are real people out there who are like, Jake Paul's a legit boxer. Like, no, no, no. They're completely different athletes. He would get his ass kicked. He would never touch him. Jake Paul wouldn't be able to punch Canelo Alvarez.

They have never fought, but boxing analysts universally agree with this assessment.

Dan Haren Joins the Show

Friend of the program Dan Haren returned to discuss the influx of no-hitters in MLB, his tenure as a dominant hitting pitcher, and the tragic passing of his 15-year-old pug, Bernie, via a coyote encounter. Dan hasn't lost his self-deprecating touch, even when comparing his 2010 season to the modern-day Shohei Ohtani phenomenon.

Loss
May 10, 2021
#26143
Dan HarenDan Haren

If I had played every day in 2010, I would have been better than Shohei Ohtani

It is crazy [what Ohtani is doing] until you look at how I hit in 2010 and realized that I was basically Shohei Ohtani in 2010. If I would play every day like Ohtani, I would be better probably than Ohtani. The only thing that he can do that I couldn't do is run, and I couldn't run that well.

Shohei Ohtani's 2021 MVP season and subsequent career trajectory make any comparison to a pitcher's high-average small sample size year factually incorrect in terms of value.

Dan also shared his unique philosophy on healthcare. He recently had a hip replacement and a gum graft, but he’s currently advocating for a "coma-style" approach to dentistry where you just ignore your teeth until you need to be put under general anesthesia for 24 hours to fix the wreckage.

Loss
May 10, 2021
#26147
Dan HarenDan Haren

It's more efficient to skip the dentist for 10 years and then do everything at once under anesthesia

Do you want to go to the dentist twice a year and just be nervous, or do you want to go once every 10 years and just get knocked out? Just have anesthesia all day and get everything taken care of, just like a coma for a day, and then knock it out, you're fine. It's way more efficient that way.

Preventative care is universally recommended over emergency surgery; thus this 'efficiency' claim is medically incorrect.
Loss
May 10, 2021
#26144
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Taking care of your body is a big waste of time unless you're a professional athlete

Honestly, taking care of your body is a big waste of time, unless you're a professional athlete. Which, or unless you have kids... taking care of your body is a big waste of time.

General health consensus contradicts this, but it's a subjective lifestyle take.

The baseball talk turned to the unwritten rules of the game, specifically regarding bat flips. Dan and Big Cat agreed that while personality is great, the intensity of the celebration needs to match the stakes of the game. Flipping a bat into orbit after a solo shot in a Tuesday night game in April just isn't it.

Void
May 10, 2021
#26145
Big CatBig Cat

Baseball celebrations need to match the moment; October energy in April is a bit much

It's more about it has to match the moment. Everyone remembers [Jose] Bautista's bat flip or bat throw. That was in the playoffs. That was an enormous moment. If you're playing in the middle of May or April, and you're throwing bats like you're in Game 7 of the World Series, what does Game 7 of the World Series look like? Right now it feels like we see October energy in April.

This is a subjective opinion on the etiquette and entertainment value of baseball celebrations.

Dogecoin and DK Metcalf

To wrap up, the guys looked at DK Metcalf’s attempt to qualify for the Olympics in the 100m dash. While he finished last in his heat, the fact that a 230-pound NFL receiver was even in the same frame as elite sprinters was a feat in itself.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

DK Metcalf's last-place track finish was both impressive and embarrassing

DK Metcalf was impressive, and then at the same time he got embarrassed. It's weird because he was way better than I thought he would be, but he also was not even close to as fast as the fastest guys. Dead last in the race.

Metcalf ran 10.37, which is fast, but he did finish 9th out of 9 in his heat.

Finally, we got an update on the Dogecoin moon mission following Elon Musk’s SNL appearance. Despite a massive dip in price, PFT is holding strong, acknowledging that the entire currency's value relies solely on famous people saying the word "Doge" on television.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dogecoin's value is purely driven by publicity and famous people mentioning it

With Doge, it's like that, but since it's based on a joke meme, publicity is 10 times more important than any real value. As far as I can tell, the best thing that can happen to Doge is just a famous person says the word Doge on a massive platform.

Financial experts and market history confirm that meme coins like Doge are primarily sentiment-driven.

Jake also provided a journalism fact about Lester Holt getting kicked out of an Alaskan radio station at age 11, which explains a lot about his drive to succeed. Hug it out, bitch.

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Win
May 10, 2021
#26139
Big CatBig Cat

No-hitters don't even register on the radar for me anymore

I'm getting no-hitter out. It doesn't even register on the radar for me. 15 years ago, it was no-hitter watch, put it on ESPN and watch the last few. If someone told me there was a no-hitter in the eighth inning now, I'd be like, oh, okay, cool, let me know how it goes.

The 2021 season saw a modern-era record of 9 no-hitters, validating the sentiment that they were occurring with unusual frequency.
Void
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#11464
Big CatBig Cat

Luka Doncic is getting very close to being a dirty player

Luka Doncic is getting very close to being, like, a dirty player... And he already gets people mad at him because he complains about every call. So, like, [it's not good].

Subjective interpretation of a player's style and reputation.
Void
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#26140
Big CatBig Cat

If you are a dirty player and you complain about every call, you just become Chris Paul

Luka [Doncic] has the double whammy of if he decides to go the dirty route, he already gets people mad at him because he complains about every call. So, like, you can't—then you just become Chris Paul. If you're dirty and you complain about every call, you've got to do one or the other.

This is a subjective opinion on player reputation and branding strategy.
Void
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#11466
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

UNC Women's Field Hockey is bad for the sport because they are too dominant

UNC Women's Field Hockey... just won their third national title in a row. Do you think that UNC women's field hockey is bad for women's field hockey? Because they're too dominant. If they go five in a row, that's bad for the sport.

Subjective opinion on sport parity.
Void
May 10, 2021·Who's Back
#11471
Big CatBig Cat

Wraps are just shittier, guiltier versions of sandwiches

The wrap is just a shittier sandwich. It's not like you didn't do anything great. It's more portable and it's like slightly healthier, but it's not as healthy as people want you to believe it is. You can't tell me that a wrap is better than a sandwich with good bread.

Subjective preference of sandwiches over wraps.
Void
May 10, 2021
#11472
Dan HarenDan Haren

Mike Trout is the greatest baseball hitter in the history of the sport

He is the greatest player I've ever seen. I was kind of arguing with my dad. I was telling him he might be the best hitter in the history of baseball and he didn't agree with me.

Subjective debate between historical eras.
Void
May 10, 2021
#11473
Dan HarenDan Haren

Baseball celebrations have gone too far in regular season games

For me, since I have played before, I will say I do think the celebrations have gone too far... Like a day game in Cincinnati in April, it seems like Game 7 of the World Series, it's a little much.

Subjective matter of sportsmanship and entertainment value.
Void
May 10, 2021
#11475
Dan HarenDan Haren

The best way to handle a veteran player who needs to retire is to fake an injury and put them on the IL

That's a very easy answer, and it happened to me once in my career. You just put him on the DL. That's all you do, or the IL, whatever. You throw him on there... transfer them to the 60-day and you kind of forget about them.

This is a common, though unproven, practice known as 'phantom IL' stints.

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