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New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton

Wednesday, May 9, 201814 takes

We're live in New Orleans and after 24 hours on the ground Big Cat's ears just popped. PFT's Caps beat the Penguins, finally, and now he has to figure out a way to apologize to everyone for not eating poop ( - ). We talk NBA second round, Lebron emasculated the Raptors, the Rockets and Warriors are on a collision path, and Joel Embiid talks maybe a little too much for a guy who gets winded every 4th quarter ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Swansea, and our ability to bring bad luck to interview subjects ( - ). New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton joins us to talk about his past 12 years in Louisiana, what life after Drew Brees may look like, how close he was to dying when Adrian Peterson was mad at him, playing for the lockout Spare Bears, and we pitch him Adam Sandler movies but he didn't really like that ( - ). Segments include Embrace Debate is Greeny being a Weeny because he can't pick a side on MJ vs Lebron, Trouble in Paradise Matt Harvey lives in Cincy now, Hank Hot in the Street Elon Musk's new girlfriend Grimes and Guys on Chicks.

Sean Payton on Draft Gems, Mahomes, and the 2012 Sabbatical

Big Cat’s ears finally popped after 24 hours in New Orleans, and just in time, because the energy in the Big Easy is electric. The Capitals finally slayed the dragon that is the Pittsburgh Penguins, and PFT is riding a high that only a diehard fan of a perennial second-round exit can understand.

Win
May 9, 2018
#21473
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I was 100% confident the Capitals would beat the Penguins once game six went to overtime

I knew it was going to happen. We all knew it was going to happen. I was so confident in that team when it went to overtime. If we had lost that game, the whole series was over. There's no chance that we're going to come back. That's a mental midget thing.

The Capitals did indeed beat the Penguins in 6 games in 2018 on their way to a Stanley Cup.

With the victory comes the grim reality of PFT’s contract: he has to eat poop. PFT spent a significant portion of the opening trying to find loopholes, suggesting everything from "poop on a mushroom" to finding out if there's any residual waste in local boudin. Big Cat is losing patience with the stalling tactics and offered a bold alternative to move things along.

Loss
May 9, 2018
#21474
Big CatBig Cat

I might eat poop just to 'alpha' PFT because his hesitation is getting sad

I've even said to you, I might just eat poop just to alpha you because it's getting so sad what you're doing. You are like, I can't do it. I can't do it. You came off the plane. You're like, what if I eat a mushroom with a little poop on it?

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Big Cat did not actually eat poop to 'alpha' PFT.

The Tampa Bay Menace

Looking ahead to the Eastern Conference Finals, the guys are sizing up the Tampa Bay Lightning. Big Cat, drawing on his deep well of experience from the 2015 Stanley Cup, isn't exactly shaking in his boots. He warned PFT about the culture of Tampa, which apparently consists primarily of strip clubs, wrestling, and a hype man named Third Leg Greg.

Win
May 9, 2018
#4054
Big CatBig Cat

The Tampa Bay Lightning are 'light work' in the playoffs based on my 2015 experience

I have been at war with Tampa before, the 2015 Stanley Cup. It was light work, even though we were down a little bit, but it was light work. They're not that hard to beat. I'm going to teach you a couple things about what Tampa hockey looks like.

The Blackhawks did beat the Lightning in the 2015 Finals, though 'light work' is a subjective descriptor of a 6-game series.

NBA Playoff Heat

LeBron James has officially emasculated the entire city of Toronto, finishing a sweep that was so dominant Skip Bayless actually had a correct take for once. Over in the East, the Sixers finally found some life, but Big Cat and PFT are reaching their limit with the Joel Embiid experience. While the Twitter game is elite, the fourth-quarter conditioning is a different story.

Void
May 9, 2018
#4056
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joel Embiid should stop talking trash and worry about breathing through his nose in the 4th quarter

Joel Embiid, I get it. You're funny. You're good on Twitter. The Rihanna thing. Cool. I actually like your game a lot. I think you're going to be a great player. But, dude, you run out of gas every fourth quarter. You can't talk shit when you can't even speak. Stop talking shit and worry about breathing through your nose.

Embiid's conditioning and late-game fatigue remained a talking point for years, though subjective in severity.

Sean Payton in the Big Easy

New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton joined the show to discuss his 12-year run in Louisiana. He reflected on the evolution of the league since he started in 2006, specifically how the way players process information has shifted alongside technology.

Void
May 9, 2018
#21475
Sean PaytonSean Payton

Younger players learn differently now because of the 'BlackBerry' technology shift since 2006

I think we deal more with the way these younger players learn and the way they've learned the advent of so many different technologies that didn't exist. Maybe back in '06, even 2006, when I got hired, the BlackBerry was your main thing... I was still hitting [the button] two, three times to get like a 'C'.

This is a subjective observation about coaching and technology.

Payton was surprisingly candid about the 2017 Draft, confirming the rumors that the Saints were ready to pull the trigger on a certain Texas Tech gunslinger if the board had fallen differently.

Win
May 9, 2018
#4059
Sean PaytonSean Payton

Patrick Mahomes would have been the target for the Saints at pick 11 in 2017

Mahomes certainly would have been a target at 11 [in the 2017 NFL Draft]... Mahomes certainly would have been a target at 11.

This has been corroborated by multiple sources in the years since, establishing it as a historical fact of the Saints' 2017 draft board.

He also broke down his drafting philosophy, emphasizing that while the first round gets the headlines, the real meat of a franchise is found in the middle rounds.

Void
May 9, 2018
#4060
Sean PaytonSean Payton

The best drafts in NFL history are built in the 2nd through 4th rounds

I think the key for us are we try to look closely at what are the things that these players that we've hit on have in common... the great drafts in our league history consist of second rounders, third rounders, fourth rounders.

This is a scouting philosophy that is generally accepted by successful NFL front offices.

The conversation touched on the "elite" quarterback debate, specifically regarding Joe Flacco. Payton has a simple litmus test for the title: if you play the way Flacco did and hoist the Lombardi, you're in the club.

Void
May 9, 2018
#4061
Sean PaytonSean Payton

Winning a Super Bowl makes a quarterback 'elite' regardless of other stats

I think when you win a Super Bowl at that position, the way he [Joe Flacco] played, you're elite. When Joe won, that was kind of a contract big year. And look, it's still the ultimate team game. And you bring up Trent [Dilfer]... Ultimately, your defense has to be playing well, and you've got to be playing well as a team.

The definition of 'elite' is entirely subjective.

Before letting him go, the guys got Payton to settle a long-standing grievance regarding Zach Miller’s horrific injury against the Saints in 2017. Payton didn't hedge, admitting the officials blew the call on what should have been a touchdown.

Win
May 9, 2018
#4062
Sean PaytonSean Payton

Zach Miller's gruesome non-catch against the Saints was definitely a touchdown

It was a touchdown. Yes, it was a touchdown... and almost lost his leg for a non-touchdown. It was crazy.

The NFL later changed the catch rule in 2018 partly due to plays like this, suggesting Payton's view aligns with the league's eventual correction.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Big Cat put the entire city of Swansea on the Hot Seat as they face relegation, though PFT pointed out that any team that let Bob Bradley lead them deserves the drop.

Win
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Any EPL team that allows an 'American stink' on them deserves to be relegated

If you get an American stink on your EPL team, you deserve to be relegated. [referencing Bob Bradley at Swansea City]

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Swansea City was indeed relegated in 2018.

Tom Brady also landed on the Hot Seat for his appearance at the Met Gala. While the world of high fashion was celebrating, Big Cat was just trying to figure out why the greatest quarterback of all time looked like he was carved out of wax.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Tom Brady looked like a 'plastic weird doll' at the Met Gala

My other hot seat is Tom Brady for looking like a plastic weird doll... Take away the clothes. His face looked weird. I definitely don't understand fashion. I don't, but I don't think it was a fashion. Take away the clothes. His face looked weird.

This is entirely a matter of aesthetic opinion.

Segments

Embrace Debate tackled the MJ vs. LeBron goat conversation. Mike Greenberg tried to play "Assistant Principal of Sports" by suggesting we don't have to choose, but Big Cat isn't interested in a participation trophy for the King.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Jordan is definitively better than LeBron James

I'm exhausted by the debate too, but guess what? I'll still stand here and say MJ's better. I don't care.

The GOAT debate is a perpetual subjective argument in sports.

Trouble in Paradise featured Matt Harvey being sent to the Reds. Big Cat is skeptical that the "Dark Knight" will enjoy the transition from the New York social scene to the land of Skyline Chili.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Matt Harvey moving to Cincinnati is hilarious because the city lacks New York models

Matt Harvey in Cincinnati is hilarious for a couple reasons... I don't think the models that are walking around New York City are going to be walking around Cincinnati. And if they are, they probably have diarrhea from Skyline.

This is a comedic comparison of cities and lifestyle, though Harvey's career did continue to decline in Cincinnati.

Finally, the show wrapped up with Guys on Chicks, where Big Cat decoded the mystery of why your bedroom is slowly being overtaken by decorative cushions.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Every woman past the age of 22 adds one pillow to her bed every year

I think it's just every woman who gets past the age of 22 decides that every year they're alive, they need to add one pillow to their bed. And then just eventually they end up with an entire house of pillows. And you're not allowed to sleep on them.

This is a comedic generalization about lifestyle trends.

Hopefully, PFT finds a very small horse before the next episode.

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